Hope you'll leave this up, mods ...
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
alright ladies and gentleman.I will make a short introduction on where we stand and then I will be available for your question. Please, one question at the time. Thank you
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
i forget
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
served
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:22 PM)
not today, i didn't
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:27 PM)
cool
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:27 PM)
and tomorrow a holiday
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:31 PM)
lol
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:37 PM)
may I begin ?
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:42 PM)
royal i want to say thanks before you even start
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:43 PM)
Hello Royal, is this Roberto
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:44 PM)
yes! please do
grandfather (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:52 PM)
yes
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:57 PM)
yes fish, this is roberto
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:27 PM)
the so called negotiations of these past two days are primarily and invention of Mr. Costigan
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:27 PM)
are we starting with questions or a Royal statement?
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:33 PM)
(nevermind)
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:56 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please pm me, and i will announce u in turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:02:00 PM)
The main concern ( we hold wide documentation about this ) was to have clevfan's thread removed at MW
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:02:32 PM)
there was never a discussion over the 5x rollover as it was initially agreed by silver ( we also have docs for that )
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:05 PM)
Mr. Costigan has lowered himself to offer to remove all negative press about royal from g911 as part of the waiver ofr the rollover
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:24 PM)
Mr. Costigan, who privately informed they owed people who couldn't wait
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:33 PM)
was very much concerned
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:57 PM)
It is my belief, having hold of the documents, that mr costigan is the former owner of ga
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:05 PM)
yet I could not care less
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:30 PM)
As a few hours ago we have reached the decision to inform all existing GA customers
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:55 PM)
that they can either choose to remain with GA or ask Mr. Costigan to bali them out through his baliouts programs
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:05:09 PM)
bail, sorry
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:05:37 PM)
Royal Sports has bailed out an operation that had ceased to exist on Nov 3 2003
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:06:02 PM)
pending payouts at that date were 24,5K, and not the 150K mr costigan was talking about
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:06:35 PM)
and pending were on hold as of Oct 31st, when the halloween campaign was launched
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:05 PM)
I have reason to believe mr costigan was informed at all times about the status of GA
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:29 PM)
the old phone numbers have been discontinued
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:36 PM)
we have received the url and the db
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:44 PM)
that's it. Nothing else
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:08 PM)
there is no contract as the proposed contract we had sent mr. silver has never been returned signed
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:18 PM)
more reson to believe that it could not be signed
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:28 PM)
as final evidence of the real ownership
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:41 PM)
my marketing manager has spoken tonite with mr silver
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:53 PM)
he is fine , as always been , with the 5x rollover
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:58 PM)
nothing else will be paid
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:22 PM)
bottomline Royal as acquired approx 360K worth of players liabilities
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:33 PM)
I'm ready for your questions
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:38 PM)
capt up first
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:40 PM)
I have a question...not sure the procedure to get in line....
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:40 PM)
well roberto i had money in GA when you took over and i was happy with all the details that got worked out i already rolled over my money so thats not a issue i just wanted to say thanks for bailing them out i will be staying on i also think you have upgraded GA excellently especially the money lines my question now is what excatly is the reup policy as of today
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:00 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:32 PM)
capt , the new bonus policy for reups is 20% cash bonus ( max bonus $ 100 ) 5x rollover
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:45 PM)
thank you for clarifing that
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:50 PM)
you may also choose not to have the bonus then there is no rollover
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:54 PM)
sbr your up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:11:11 PM)
Is there any chance the deal will be terminated..any at all?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:11:39 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please PM me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:11 PM)
sbr, the deal is done. Only Mr. Costigan seems to be willing to keep this issue alive. I would be glad to move on but you know me, I simply cannot stand lies. And Mr. Costigan is a compulsive liar
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:31 PM)
zzzzzzzzz your up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:32 PM)
OK...thanks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:43 PM)
you are aware, as I am, that GA was dead. Correct ?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:58 PM)
i miss anything?
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:01 PM)
yes, of course...
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:43 PM)
sbr perhaps it would be helpful if you posted such
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:48 PM)
you are aware, as I am that Chris was touting a ponzi scheme, correct ?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:56 PM)
we are
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:06 PM)
may i ask a question?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:09 PM)
please
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:13 PM)
zzz your turn
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:25 PM)
I'm not aware of a ponzi scheme..could you explain?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:32 PM)
is it true that Sting was the owner or partner in GA?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:35 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:56 PM)
zzzzz first. I have no reason to believe the contrary
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:22 PM)
higher bonuses to payout the previous fish...
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:38 PM)
there was no profit whatsoever
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:44 PM)
cause i posted on his message board asking if TA was Mike Silver and my post was deleted
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:03 PM)
ask TT, he has been banned after an innocent post
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:08 PM)
in a NY minute might i ad
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:29 PM)
well good job and keep up the good work
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:30 PM)
tt your turn
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:48 PM)
as I stated the major concern transpired in these last hours was to have clevfan's post removed.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:59 PM)
may i add that sting himself has never bailed out a player and you have, so good job
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:29 PM)
If anyone is doubting any of this, I can tell you that last Sunday-Monday, I saw with my own eyes the email discussion between him and Roberto....and this was a DONE DEAL. Everything was agreed upon.....and then Sting showed up out of nowhere
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:31 PM)
hes just an arogant idiot
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:58 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:23 PM)
zzzzz....you have to feel for the man . His book being bailed out by his archienemy
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:29 PM)
sub your turn
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:48 PM)
ROYAL , JUST WONDERING WHAT VALUE IS IN GA NOW
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:58 PM)
I CAN'T SEE ANY
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:19:22 PM)
Good question
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:19:56 PM)
GA has a value for our plan of expansion in the recreational segment. As soon as rollovers will be completed and payouts made confidence will be re established in the brand. I see it as a medium term investment
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:30 PM)
tough way of doing things buddy, good luck with it
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:38 PM)
thanks
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:40 PM)
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:42 PM)
mr dozer fire away
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:45 PM)
we have invested a good portion of our october's net profit in this project.
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:45 PM)
incredibly opinionated lines at GA.
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:56 PM)
don't know why
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:21:18 PM)
Is it possible to see this original contract of which was not returned, and do you have any idea what contract Sting and company plans to show us this week?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:07 PM)
we have thrown our copies away, as the counterparty didn't want to sign it, although this has been promised for day. Purchase price was the take over of players liabilities up to 360K. Nothing more. I wouldn't be surprided, knowing Chris, to see some fake copy posted on his site.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:34 PM)
hello all
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:50 PM)
ROYAL: Will players be paid out if 5xrollover is met?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:51 PM)
zzz you have another question for our guest
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:54 PM)
Ethically this can be considered a bailout but since you did/do now have connections with the entity which had our funds you can see where this would be relevant to players in general yes?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:22 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:39 PM)
we have rescued 250 players whom otherwise would be holding nothing in their hands. This is what I see Bill.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:48 PM)
how much was paid to the owners of GA if anything by you and how much did they stiff neteller for with a rubber check??
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:10 PM)
we have not paid silver. The neteller issue is 4K
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:16 PM)
I can respect that notion, but for every player who
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:16 PM)
lol
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:23 PM)
does not go on the forums
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:35 PM)
and does not know about ROyal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:37 PM)
we have informed all players mailing them
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:08 PM)
i have a question
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:11 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me ty
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:22 PM)
they may want to see something in writing as you do have a legal connection with GA as opposed to giving everyone their funds in Royal account
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:43 PM)
You can see where I;m coming from?
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:44 PM)
sorry i'm late, what is going on??
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:54 PM)
so many are saying that royal will make this and royal will make that by having the players roll over blah blah blah
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:18 PM)
Royal wont make anything if they didnt get anything
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:18 PM)
GA is a brand of Royal Sports. I do see you point and have greatly appreciated your persistance in trying to understand what was really going on.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:46 PM)
if royal didnt get any bank accounts and didnt get the post ups then what ever royal pays is a negative for them until GA starts genertaing a profit
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:53 PM)
and while I appreciate the brand name of ROyal, not everyone is willing to accept hearsay
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:00 PM)
vega sucks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:05 PM)
Yet you also have to understand a few other minor detalis, such as the fact ( the LIE ) that Grande was in the loop. I have personally spoken with Skip.
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:15 PM)
bill your starting to suck
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:19 PM)
correct zzzzz
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:22 PM)
bigboy dan you're up
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:28 PM)
not to mention I would like to cast my stones in the correct direction and be a client of ROyal if it is so
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:54 PM)
i have a question
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:11 PM)
hurry the f up
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:14 PM)
Bill, Royal is not neither does want to be a hero. We have stepped in in a critical situation for GA.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:25 PM)
if this buyout was any other top tier book would this rollover even be in affect ?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:46 PM)
ask them bbd
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:50 PM)
jpey pick you are up next after bigboydan
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:01 PM)
Oly did 10x with camelot
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:17 PM)
sorry to ask out of turn here, but whats going on, whats the big news
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:22 PM)
cascade 20x and you had to match deposit
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:44 PM)
stfu liam wait your turn like everybody else
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:51 PM)
yeah liam
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:51 PM)
sorry chatmaster
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:59 PM)
jpey you're up
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:03 PM)
royal are being to nice
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:06 PM)
the news is that we formally invite all believers in the former owner of GA Mr. Costigan to approach him for a different bailout
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:29 PM)
Just got my password. What have I missed? Is the bailout still going ahead?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:43 PM)
ok, compair the camelot position to this one was the money that more bigger than this situation or about the same ?
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:47 PM)
s
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:48 PM)
joeypick u have a question?
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:52 PM)
Here are my 2 questions. [1] Will players we paid (ie Cashout allowed) if 5 x Rollover is met ?? and [2] With GA stiffing Neteller how does is effect furure dealing with Neteller for GA players?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:15 PM)
i was not around when camelot was bailedout/boughtout
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:27 PM)
thats why i ask
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:34 PM)
1) Yes. 2) Royal Sports stands good for all GA players and related payment processors
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:47 PM)
mr dozer fire away
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:56 PM)
oops wasnt ready
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:59 PM)
ill go next
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:00 PM)
Thanks Royal. All I need to know.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:02 PM)
dan, GA wasnt bought but went belly up
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:18 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:32 PM)
i can't pm, please put me in line chatmaster
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:40 PM)
sure liam
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:48 PM)
thanks
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:15 PM)
bill do u still have a question?
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:28 PM)
Where's the mens room?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:31 PM)
liam your up
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:36 PM)
thanks
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:56 PM)
i do apologize but I came in here half an hour late, may i inquire as towards the purpose of this meeting and what it means
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:05 PM)
fishhead and then jdog to follow
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:28 PM)
now?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:31 PM)
to put an end to all gossips and agenda related to the bailout of GA
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:31 PM)
Liam , I will post the transcript later
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:36 PM)
ok thanks everyone
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:41 PM)
fishhead your up
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:48 PM)
Ok.............
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:06 PM)
here comes fishhead stepping into the batters box
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:08 PM)
welllllllllllllllllllllllll
drako (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:16 PM)
??
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:17 PM)
batter up
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:26 PM)
GA was still GA as of last weekend so my question is this................
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:26 PM)
Next
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:39 PM)
??
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:45 PM)
jdog up after fish then zzzz
hanover (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:54 PM)
drum roll
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:02 PM)
good question fish
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:07 PM)
lol
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:09 PM)
ROYAL--- how did you make such a decision such as this on such short time? Did you know GA was in trouble earlier????
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:49 PM)
Fish, as previously explained we were looking for a book that could fit our need to target the recreational segment
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:19 PM)
jdog u r up
jdog (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:21 PM)
are you still going to do the squares on selected football games
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:21 PM)
so you were hunting??
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:27 PM)
it didn't take a rocket scientist to understand that GA's business module was the perfect receipt for disaster
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:32 PM)
ok
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:59 PM)
zzzz up next than grandpappy
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:01 PM)
like we said last night I have little faith in reduced juice shops that give aways bonuses
OLDFRIEND (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:11 PM)
Royal, How could a sportsbook have $360k in players accounts owed.. and have no money at all to pay there players? Do you think there is cash somewhere?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:27 PM)
no. nada. zilch.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:29 PM)
old friend cutting right to the front of the line shocking
OLDFRIEND (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:36 PM)
sorry
jdog (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:38 PM)
i wasnt around last nite sorry
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:44 PM)
does that shock you lol
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:49 PM)
zzz you r up
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:55 PM)
so can we be clear, was GA paid for by royal (GA WAS BOUGHT) or did Royal only need to accept player liability (BAILED OUT A BANKRUPT BIZ)??? HOW MUCH WAS PAID BY ROYAL FOR GA??? HOW MUCH WAS AGREED??? how much was the total number in player accounts and how much was in pending withdrawls??
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:58 PM)
why wait OF cuts right to the chase
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:30 PM)
zzzzz, we have not paid a dime. We have taken over players liabilities. period
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:42 PM)
HOW MUCH LIABILITY?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:45 PM)
360K
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:49 PM)
grandfather your turn
grandfather (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:53 PM)
250 players you say? I'm not in the loop, but this seems very low. Is it by industry standards? Thanks
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:09 PM)
sick up next
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:14 PM)
250 actives, 1200 dormant
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:30 PM)
HOW CAN THE GAMING COMMUNITY STAND BY AS THIS SLIMY THING CALLED STING DOES WHAT HE DOES???
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:36 PM)
LETS REVOLT
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:48 PM)
VIVA LAREVOLUTION
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:10 PM)
skin you r up next
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:21 PM)
i can't wait for this one, should be good let's hear it sick gambler
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:25 PM)
GO SICK GAMBLER
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:44 PM)
how is this move going to make you a winner in the long haul? I mean, 360 large to put out for this, how in the world will ROYAL benefit from this? I don't see this at all.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:49 PM)
my bad sick your turn
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:16 PM)
only sting = ga owner benefits from this
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:22 PM)
he stuck it to you royal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:30 PM)
sick, good kid : we have an additional book that starts from 250. We have acquired a recent dormant db.
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:41 PM)
Any hot lady's need a real man......Aw!! Sorry I guess I'm in the wrong chat..lol...
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:53 PM)
lmao
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:56 PM)
players acquisition costs are high these days
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:13 PM)
tremendously high
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:15 PM)
hes sitting on player post ups........360k of post ups.......sting is a thief
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:15 PM)
i've got a question.... where's JJGOLD?
Loman (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:24 PM)
if its the right 250,can recover the 360 in one year
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:48 PM)
depends on how the season evolves
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:06 PM)
NFL has finally turned in favor of books
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:09 PM)
we shall see
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:16 PM)
I predict 20 of the 250 stay
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:28 PM)
12
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:30 PM)
thenskin your turn
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:30 PM)
4
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:38 PM)
skin you r up
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:38 PM)
ATTENTION ALL HACKERS......dos sports911.com.................hes sitting on 360K........cash
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:39 PM)
100
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:40 PM)
Royal, first thanks for stepping in here with this bailout. What is the situation with the rollover? I was nearing completion of my 5x rollover at GA. Am I now required to start from scratch?
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:46 PM)
I have a question, well probably because I am stupid, but what is the money line. I don't understand the -140 or +250 thing?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:20 PM)
skin . Unfortunately yes
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:21 PM)
bbob 1972 you are a riot
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:28 PM)
FOLKS WE HAVE FOUND IVAN JIVING
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:39 PM)
byel iam
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:47 PM)
bob....-140 means you have to risk 140 to win 100
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:48 PM)
ten six niner ten six niner.....we got hookers on the blvd
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:58 PM)
+250 means you have to risk 100 to win 250
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:05 PM)
I'm serious...I don't understand the money line wager..
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:09 PM)
OK
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:11 PM)
see above
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:12 PM)
bill dozer fire away
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:19 PM)
This being a business I'd like to ask for anything outside of hearsay about Sting owning GA since you picked it up from him (anything more than reason to believe??) Accusations back and fourth are better left unsaid if without proof. From a person on the outside looking in all they know is GA is now Royal with each side saying the other has wronged the client. Can you offer any information that can be considered without having to consider the character of who said it?? You can understand that as much as you helped players a book could take advantage the same way without Documentation. You acknowledge this??? Especially when the side getting bailed turns on the helper….
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:19 PM)
thank you Ironlosk
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:20 PM)
look at Ironlock
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:21 PM)
vega is mean
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:23 PM)
thats right
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:31 PM)
u type fast
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:34 PM)
guys
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:37 PM)
please wait to talk
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:44 PM)
what does -140 mean
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:52 PM)
140 bucks to win 100
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:58 PM)
wtf
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:48:16 PM)
This being a business I'd like to ask for anything outside of hearsay about Sting owning GA since you picked it up from him (anything more than reason to believe??) Accusations back and fourth are better left unsaid if without proof. From a person on the outside looking in all they know is GA is now Royal with each side saying the other has wronged the client. Can you offer any information that can be considered without having to consider the character of who said it?? You can understand that as much as you helped players a book could take advantage the same way without Documentation. You acknowledge this??? Especially when the side getting bailed turns on the helper….
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:48:17 PM)
i thought vega was booted from here
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:02 PM)
Also, How did so many of us get the day off from Wal Mart
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:03 PM)
?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:22 PM)
veterans day bill
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:26 PM)
sting just posted the original contract
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:33 PM)
bob pullover i see a donkin donuts the hookers arent going anywhere
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:36 PM)
can we huurry up? kickoff is in about 10 min.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:46 PM)
i agree
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:56 PM)
hurry up kickoffs is approching
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:03 PM)
well Royal says its fake so...
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:05 PM)
Bill, I understand your point. Let me put it this way. I am very cautious by nature when I express myself in public. Russ and SBR know me personally and hope they can confirm. I would never say something just to hurt. I have my reasons to believe means I cannot and don't want to reveal sources. Fair enough ?
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:06 PM)
Nobody's forcing you guys to stay
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:31 PM)
hali, its like a soap opera were hooked lol
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:35 PM)
bigboydan, sting said to tell you to be careful with the teeth when blowing him
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:45 PM)
True
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:11 PM)
zzz, thats a low blow man
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:19 PM)
he also said to find a better lotion for next time
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:20 PM)
i side with nobody here
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:25 PM)
can anyone confirm that Sting and\or Silvers have been physically threatened?
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:29 PM)
Royal, its not fair to the player but I can respect it as long as you can respect me being the squeaky wheel trying to get some grease to info I think I am entitled to, Thanks for answering, Also I do not know you or the aforementioned.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:30 PM)
lucky streak you r up
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:35 PM)
i just want everyone to be happy with the out come of this one
Lucky_Streak (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:36 PM)
If GA is to be aimed at the recreational player can we expect the lines to reflect this, e.g. a -5 elsewhere might be a -5.5 and a +5 elsewhere might be a +5.5 ? (assuming recreational players play a lot of favorites) ? Or will each of the 3 books set it's own line seperately to balance the action only in that book. I.e. is there any point in having an account at more than 1 of the three books ?
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:37 PM)
rumor is your all great but...
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:42 PM)
i am only saying that cause you dont stop stroking him on his board
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:46 PM)
bill, it seems what you are looking/asking for is a reulated industry.............offshore gambling is far from that. while i understand your line of questioning, what you are asking for is never going to happen
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:51 PM)
hes a loser thief
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:04 PM)
sorry, <>
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:22 PM)
i do nothing of the sort i post on his board thats it no more no less
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:31 PM)
Lucky,we are creating a separate lineroom for GA. It will take few more days but it will soon be there.
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:33 PM)
no emoticons here... shiiit
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:35 PM)
raisin, No one has to do anything. That much is obviosl
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:35 PM)
sorry pal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:47 PM)
don't forget we have bailed GA out 6 days ago....
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:55 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:58 PM)
great job royal
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:11 PM)
Royal, I know the facts. Its a lack of that I find frustrating
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:12 PM)
good stiff by sting
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:12 PM)
skin your up
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:21 PM)
zzz, i can roll with the punches and i know your just razzing me so i take no offense to anything
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:25 PM)
btw, I would like to say something to fish
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:27 PM)
exactly bill
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:32 PM)
fish, you around ?
drako (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:41 PM)
eddiemyman?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:42 PM)
just fuking around pal, im glad your a sport
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:44 PM)
yes
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:45 PM)
Royal will my funds be held in an escrow account now you have taken over?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:10 PM)
zzz, no biggie really i can see where your "cumming" from
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:17 PM)
lol
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:38 PM)
lol
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:42 PM)
sting has the whitest teeth i ever "came" across
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:44 PM)
ok, bbd and zzzz.........isn't it past your bed time?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:51 PM)
http://www.gambling911.com/GA-Royal-Purchase-Agreement.html
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:54 PM)
skin, yes. One of the things I have been insisitng on was the creation of a separate escrow from the operational account. By the end of december this year we will have this escrow certified by a local auditing firm on monthly basis
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:11 PM)
yes it is i gotta be up for church at 6am lol
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:15 PM)
that is good to know, thanks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:50 PM)
I promised SBR I would have done it and never forgot to keep my word so far, correct SBR ?
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:09 PM)
bye guys off to watch da game
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:18 PM)
cya mjisback
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:39 PM)
so far....so good...still a little cool on this GA deal...trying to stay open minded though
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:56 PM)
whas up Roberto?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:59 PM)
me too sbr
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:01 PM)
Fish, we have been able to create the website in less than 48 hours as it is basically a clone of lay107 , just differen graphics
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:24 PM)
change a few graphics & walla!
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:26 PM)
ok, love lay107
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:40 PM)
SBR, I appreciate when you give me a chance to beat your money
.
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:42 PM)
great hockey prices at the new GA..
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:51 PM)
sorry, i mean lay 107
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:51 PM)
any further questions?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:57 PM)
i do
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:58:19 PM)
fire away danny
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:58:31 PM)
as far as the rollover requirements go how many people have met them or are close to the requirments as of today ?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:31 PM)
bbd, I'm honestly still busy in reconciliating the second batch of data just arrived from costa rica. I expect the first payouts tomorrow or wednesday if I recall right
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:48 PM)
any further quastions?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:54 PM)
going once...
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:57 PM)
yes, i did not get in
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:59 PM)
in your best estimated guess who many you think ?
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:00 PM)
I think MW and the RX should each schedule a couple chatroom sessions per week.........great for the business
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:21 PM)
is the agreement on sting's site real or fake?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:27 PM)
fake
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:34 PM)
skin your turn
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:38 PM)
there is no contract as silver never signed it
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:43 PM)
how would u know if he just posted it?
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:46 PM)
Will you be offering Rugby or Soccer lines like the old GA?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:00 PM)
how would you know if he just posted it and you were in here?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:10 PM)
that does not make sense
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:13 PM)
or do u mean
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:16 PM)
no rugby. We will have a soccerlineroom up and running by this coming february
Mjulian (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:19 PM)
Fishhead the RX sucks
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:20 PM)
the contract is not valid?
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:26 PM)
he probably clicked on the link as i did
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:45 PM)
lol
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:45 PM)
i thought he said it was fake before it went up on the site
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:54 PM)
sportsguy.....the contract was never signed. There will be no contract.
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:11 PM)
is the the contract that you guys were going to sign then?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:18 PM)
but that did not work out?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:41 PM)
sbr you're up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:45 PM)
Did you say earlier you think ("reason to believe")Sting was a Principal in GA? Or did I missunderstand your intent?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:47 PM)
please clarify
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:57 PM)
If there is no contract doesn't that throw the legal position up in the air?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:59 PM)
I have reason to believe, yes I do.
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:01 PM)
i find one thing in that contact very interesting
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:18 PM)
skin, nothing is in the air
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:24 PM)
why would the check be made out to the corp name of darwin holdings?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:26 PM)
the domain has been transferred
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:30 PM)
the db too
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:36 PM)
i see they ask it to be made out to click1media
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:37 PM)
bailout complete
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:47 PM)
Thank you for your time Roberto...good luck with the newest Royal addition
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:54 PM)
so you never intended to have a contract
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:57 PM)
thank you SBR
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:16 PM)
if there is nothign further
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:30 PM)
hello room
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:31 PM)
i would like to thank roberto for his time and patience
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:37 PM)
we initially wanted to have a contract and have provided it to the counterparty. the counterparty, in spite of several promises, never returned it
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:48 PM)
so that was the contract
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:55 PM)
but it never was commenced
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:59 PM)
that is all i am asking
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:00 PM)
Hi Devil
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:00 PM)
So this whole situation has been negotiated on word of mouth?
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:06 PM)
GOOD LUCK roberto and to Royal
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:19 PM)
so that was the contract/framework?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:24 PM)
no skin, we have emails, chats, and taped phone calls
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:26 PM)
but it never commenced
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:46 PM)
It seems like I got to the end of it. Good luck Roberto and KUDOS for stepping in
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:54 PM)
i am trying to understand if this is fake or just not valid because no one signed it
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:15 PM)
Will there be a transcript of the chat somewhere later?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:23 PM)
was there ever anything in writing before this transaction took place ??
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:24 PM)
yes there will
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:24 PM)
sportsguy, whoever is not happy may request the former owner to bail him out. Situation is that on Nov 3 GA was a nopay
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:33 PM)
sports.....it was offered to Silvers-that I know firsthand
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:35 PM)
A lot of things in this business are done with a hand shake skin
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:48 PM)
major - where should we look for that transcript for those of us that were later
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:51 PM)
i just want to know if the contract is fake as you stated or that it is not valid
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:56 PM)
there is a big difference
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:57 PM)
mess hall in the moring
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:01 PM)
ty
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:04 PM)
np
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:07 PM)
right, devil...that's what so many people refuse to understand...this ain't wall street
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:15 PM)
by the way major these a great (chats) do more
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:22 PM)
DAMN greenbay recovered the fumble
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:42 PM)
exactly kosar.....u lose your word in this business and u are out of it
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:55 PM)
right
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:55 PM)
the contractual conditions as reported on g911 are not the ones that have been agreed with silver. if silver is the former owner than what reported on 911 is fake, if costigan is the former owner then....
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:28 PM)
royal
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:34 PM)
maybe i can add some background
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:41 PM)
i have a question about that contract sting posted
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:52 PM)
ok, thanks for the answer, i guess
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:02 PM)
ga took over odds n ends i know odds and ends for years
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:07 PM)
the devil, kosar
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:23 PM)
skin
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:41 PM)
ga built on odds and ends when odds sold to ga....we took over ga as an advertiser
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:48 PM)
why is it that sting states the corp of GA was Darwin Holdings, yet he ask that the check for 15,000 be written out to Click 1 Media?
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:58 PM)
i only dealt with silver
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:04 PM)
i wondered that too clev good question
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:21 PM)
must have to do with some of those players being delivered, read down the contract
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:23 PM)
Click 1 Media is still owned by "Mike Silver"
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:26 PM)
I just went to 911 and checked it. This is not the draft we have
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:29 PM)
I know that as a fact
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:42 PM)
i know walk of life, that is why i ask
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:54 PM)
do we know who "mike silver" is?
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:12 PM)
so, why would they ask for a check made out to click 1 and not the corp name?
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:25 PM)
fishy....to say the least
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:42 PM)
one existed, the other didn't?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:43 PM)
what I can tell you is that in the list of GA liabilities there was a lona of 15K in favor of click1media
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:43 PM)
maybe silver is the sole owner of click1...and has partners in the other
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:07 PM)
no....the 15K came up in the very beginning.
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:16 PM)
this was the money silver wanted for himself
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:31 PM)
and silver is click 1
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:44 PM)
does click one still have to send the 150 players from the contract details?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:46 PM)
Gamblers Avenue - the advertising website- was owned by the same person that owns Click1Media
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:53 PM)
tom abramson
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:54 PM)
exactly Devil
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:59 PM)
Abrahamsen
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:02 PM)
did the book owe Click1 for advertising?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:07 PM)
and for this reason silver agreed in placing ALL accounts, including pending payouts that I wanted to process, on 5x rollover
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:07 PM)
do they still have to send 150 players
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:22 PM)
So, it is a BAIL-OUT
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:33 PM)
yes will
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:33 PM)
yes Chris..oh sorry Sportsguy, you are right
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:42 PM)
they could not come to terms
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:53 PM)
thank sports
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:57 PM)
welcome
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:00 PM)
got here late
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:04 PM)
me2
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:12 PM)
i missed like 30 minutes
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:35 PM)
i just want everybody to be happy with the terms on this but the way it looks it will never be
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:45 PM)
I guess it would be nice if you would give your side of the story Chris
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:55 PM)
if you can't survive a 5x, you shouldn't be gambling
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:07 PM)
i thought a happy medium with a 3x's rollover was more than fair on both sides
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:26 PM)
why did you think that?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:29 PM)
this was my initial offer to Chris but he said nada
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:31 PM)
I thought a 5x rollover was fair to both sides, considering that the players would get zero otherwise
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:36 PM)
no BBD, a 3X rollover is a loser ofr the book
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:40 PM)
If the alternative to a 5x rollover was being stiffed then I am more than happy about the 5x rollover.
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:43 PM)
is chris the owner or silver
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:59 PM)
you know who the owner is Chris
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:00 PM)
TTinCO, I think you mean "If you can't survive a 5x, you shouldn't be bonus whoring"
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:02 PM)
hell i took the 10x rollover from oly for camelot and was relived to get that
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:03 PM)
3x's rollover is more than fair i thought
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:18 PM)
thats the norm on bonuses in the first place isnt it ?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:18 PM)
LMFAO @ Halifax
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:20 PM)
why should they knock it down to 3x?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:31 PM)
think all you want roberto but i am not chris as you think, i am one of your players
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:36 PM)
Very true Hali.....
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:45 PM)
asking hard questions because i am trying to understand who is telling the truth
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:51 PM)
you or chris
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:55 PM)
OK, if that is the case I apologize.
buckeye (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:01 PM)
Why leave it as GA, instead of folding the customers in?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:08 PM)
apology accepted
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:21 PM)
I think Sting and the truth are on opposite sides of the spectrum and not just in this case
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:21 PM)
sportsguy: have you been asking chris/sting hard questions, too?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:22 PM)
do you think clevfan would be praised by me if i was chris
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:30 PM)
buck, it's a "new offering"......low limit, big bonus
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:31 PM)
as I have said before.....I have reason to believe chris is the real owner. time will tell
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:32 PM)
i praised her several times today
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:45 PM)
who is chris?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:47 PM)
royal, i'm not taking sides either way all im trying to do is make sure the players are happy with everything the main thing i feel is the players didnt get stiffed
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:48 PM)
i ask everyone
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:52 PM)
hard questions
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:54 PM)
Chris is Sting
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:55 PM)
but
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:05 PM)
bigboy,
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:06 PM)
ty
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:06 PM)
the info is more free from censorship here it seems
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:11 PM)
The fact that Roberto is here answering questions and that Sting/Chris has been avoiding them, should be a good indicator as to who's telling the truth
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:31 PM)
Very true midnight
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:35 PM)
well, silence does not mean your guilty
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:35 PM)
not many books will step in and assume a big loss like royal did..............
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:41 PM)
chris has been answering questions...his questions
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:50 PM)
remember we have certain rights
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:59 PM)
true
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:05 PM)
only fair to give them a shot to recoup
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:19 PM)
sports, I've seen enough lies firsthand to know who is in the right here......it's brutal
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:19 PM)
agreed that royal did good for stepping up
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:22 PM)
yet there has been no intention to confront each other publicly
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:36 PM)
I made myself available, chirs not
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:39 PM)
evading the issue is a pretty good sign that the evader is trying to hide something
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:41 PM)
players can make or break a book and thats why i want them to feel confortable with this whole ordeal because thats my main concern here
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:55 PM)
bbd???
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:01 PM)
what are you talking about?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:11 PM)
this rollover stuff
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:31 PM)
can the players live with it or not
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:31 PM)
yes
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:33 PM)
They were a SHIT BOOK who was GIVING AWAY THE PLACE
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:36 PM)
thats the question
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:50 PM)
they got burnt......surprise, surprise
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:53 PM)
bbd,
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:54 PM)
if they can then its settled in my mind
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:56 PM)
I have a question for you bbd
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:57 PM)
the players can live with it and we all need to move on soon
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:05 PM)
bbd, from past experience, i will say that at least 60% of the players royal picked up will cash out as soon as the roll is met
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:07 PM)
are you chris bbd
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:10 PM)
can they live with it or not????????? they get that or nothing BBD.........what would you want?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:14 PM)
Dan..... No bailout from Royal = EVERYBODY SCREWED.
BigMo (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:36 PM)
royal, thanks, good luck to you.
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:36 PM)
agreed Uncle
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:37 PM)
do players send money to books to gamble or they send money to books as they would keep it in their saving accounts ?
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:43 PM)
If I were Royal, I'd shut down Gambler's Avenue, let everybody collect from Sting and Silver or whoever, and start my own book. They do a good thing by bailing out players, and the people being bailed out whine like a bunch of babies because they don't get everything their own way.
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:57 PM)
5 x Rollover is a blessing for GA players... If they are too damn dense to see that, screw em..
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:11 PM)
thank for booting me
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:12 PM)
agree with Uncle B
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:14 PM)
Thanks Devil
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:24 PM)
players have become spoiled
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:25 PM)
I will be happy to process the first payouts for GA customers in the next hours and days
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:27 PM)
Hiya GakMasterW
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:38 PM)
sup Nutts Power
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:42 PM)
as a solid proof that the 5x rollover was not a killer
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:48 PM)
keep playing at shit books & you deserve a good hard old fashioned stiffing to wake you up
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:55 PM)
I'm surprised that they haven't asked you to 20% to everybody's balance and then letting them withdraw it right away for their inconvenience.
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:02 PM)
Just trying to stop watching that damn Hilton sex vid, and get to the game...
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:07 PM)
Royal: why did you bail out GA?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:10 PM)
uncle no nuts i see you made it
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:14 PM)
LOL
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:31 PM)
I'm watching it as I type
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:35 PM)
Walk, its a brand we were looking at. Things have moved fast
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:52 PM)
Branding... makes sense. I thought so
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:59 PM)
Thanks Roberto
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:42 PM)
lol
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:46 PM)
I don't see the point to it myself, unless it's a good will/image thing, but it's your money and decision
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:47 PM)
Thank you ladies and gentlemen. has been a pleasure spending time with you all tonight. Now lets go back to NFL !
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:48 PM)
"no comment"
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:58 PM)
damn it man!!!
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:18 PM)
LMFAO
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:24 PM)
Nuttsy late again?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:25 PM)
ok
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:27 PM)
uncle nutless who you got in this game tonight philly or GB ?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:30 PM)
Thanks Roberto
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:33 PM)
lol
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:33 PM)
thanks Royal!
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:37 PM)
thaks for your time Roberto
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:37 PM)
BigBoy, are the players happy ? I only had $700 at GA, and I'm happy with the 5x. If I had $15K at GA and got a 5x, I would be REALLY happy.
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:43 PM)
Goodnight everyone.
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
alright ladies and gentleman.I will make a short introduction on where we stand and then I will be available for your question. Please, one question at the time. Thank you
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
i forget
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:17 PM)
served
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:22 PM)
not today, i didn't
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:27 PM)
cool
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:27 PM)
and tomorrow a holiday
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:31 PM)
lol
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:37 PM)
may I begin ?
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:42 PM)
royal i want to say thanks before you even start
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:43 PM)
Hello Royal, is this Roberto
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:44 PM)
yes! please do
grandfather (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:52 PM)
yes
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:00:57 PM)
yes fish, this is roberto
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:27 PM)
the so called negotiations of these past two days are primarily and invention of Mr. Costigan
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:27 PM)
are we starting with questions or a Royal statement?
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:33 PM)
(nevermind)
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:01:56 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please pm me, and i will announce u in turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:02:00 PM)
The main concern ( we hold wide documentation about this ) was to have clevfan's thread removed at MW
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:02:32 PM)
there was never a discussion over the 5x rollover as it was initially agreed by silver ( we also have docs for that )
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:05 PM)
Mr. Costigan has lowered himself to offer to remove all negative press about royal from g911 as part of the waiver ofr the rollover
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:24 PM)
Mr. Costigan, who privately informed they owed people who couldn't wait
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:33 PM)
was very much concerned
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:03:57 PM)
It is my belief, having hold of the documents, that mr costigan is the former owner of ga
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:05 PM)
yet I could not care less
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:30 PM)
As a few hours ago we have reached the decision to inform all existing GA customers
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:04:55 PM)
that they can either choose to remain with GA or ask Mr. Costigan to bali them out through his baliouts programs
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:05:09 PM)
bail, sorry
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:05:37 PM)
Royal Sports has bailed out an operation that had ceased to exist on Nov 3 2003
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:06:02 PM)
pending payouts at that date were 24,5K, and not the 150K mr costigan was talking about
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:06:35 PM)
and pending were on hold as of Oct 31st, when the halloween campaign was launched
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:05 PM)
I have reason to believe mr costigan was informed at all times about the status of GA
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:29 PM)
the old phone numbers have been discontinued
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:36 PM)
we have received the url and the db
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:07:44 PM)
that's it. Nothing else
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:08 PM)
there is no contract as the proposed contract we had sent mr. silver has never been returned signed
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:18 PM)
more reson to believe that it could not be signed
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:28 PM)
as final evidence of the real ownership
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:41 PM)
my marketing manager has spoken tonite with mr silver
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:53 PM)
he is fine , as always been , with the 5x rollover
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:08:58 PM)
nothing else will be paid
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:22 PM)
bottomline Royal as acquired approx 360K worth of players liabilities
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:33 PM)
I'm ready for your questions
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:38 PM)
capt up first
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:40 PM)
I have a question...not sure the procedure to get in line....
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:09:40 PM)
well roberto i had money in GA when you took over and i was happy with all the details that got worked out i already rolled over my money so thats not a issue i just wanted to say thanks for bailing them out i will be staying on i also think you have upgraded GA excellently especially the money lines my question now is what excatly is the reup policy as of today
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:00 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:32 PM)
capt , the new bonus policy for reups is 20% cash bonus ( max bonus $ 100 ) 5x rollover
capt (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:45 PM)
thank you for clarifing that
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:50 PM)
you may also choose not to have the bonus then there is no rollover
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:10:54 PM)
sbr your up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:11:11 PM)
Is there any chance the deal will be terminated..any at all?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:11:39 PM)
if you have a question for roberto, please PM me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:11 PM)
sbr, the deal is done. Only Mr. Costigan seems to be willing to keep this issue alive. I would be glad to move on but you know me, I simply cannot stand lies. And Mr. Costigan is a compulsive liar
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:31 PM)
zzzzzzzzz your up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:32 PM)
OK...thanks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:43 PM)
you are aware, as I am, that GA was dead. Correct ?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 8:12:58 PM)
i miss anything?
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:01 PM)
yes, of course...
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:43 PM)
sbr perhaps it would be helpful if you posted such
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:48 PM)
you are aware, as I am that Chris was touting a ponzi scheme, correct ?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:13:56 PM)
we are
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:06 PM)
may i ask a question?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:09 PM)
please
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:13 PM)
zzz your turn
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:25 PM)
I'm not aware of a ponzi scheme..could you explain?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:32 PM)
is it true that Sting was the owner or partner in GA?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:35 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:14:56 PM)
zzzzz first. I have no reason to believe the contrary
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:22 PM)
higher bonuses to payout the previous fish...
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:38 PM)
there was no profit whatsoever
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:15:44 PM)
cause i posted on his message board asking if TA was Mike Silver and my post was deleted
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:03 PM)
ask TT, he has been banned after an innocent post
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:08 PM)
in a NY minute might i ad
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:29 PM)
well good job and keep up the good work
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:30 PM)
tt your turn
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:48 PM)
as I stated the major concern transpired in these last hours was to have clevfan's post removed.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:16:59 PM)
may i add that sting himself has never bailed out a player and you have, so good job
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:29 PM)
If anyone is doubting any of this, I can tell you that last Sunday-Monday, I saw with my own eyes the email discussion between him and Roberto....and this was a DONE DEAL. Everything was agreed upon.....and then Sting showed up out of nowhere
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:31 PM)
hes just an arogant idiot
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:17:58 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:23 PM)
zzzzz....you have to feel for the man . His book being bailed out by his archienemy
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:29 PM)
sub your turn
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:48 PM)
ROYAL , JUST WONDERING WHAT VALUE IS IN GA NOW
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:18:58 PM)
I CAN'T SEE ANY
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:19:22 PM)
Good question
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:19:56 PM)
GA has a value for our plan of expansion in the recreational segment. As soon as rollovers will be completed and payouts made confidence will be re established in the brand. I see it as a medium term investment
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:30 PM)
tough way of doing things buddy, good luck with it
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:38 PM)
thanks
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:40 PM)
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:42 PM)
mr dozer fire away
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:45 PM)
we have invested a good portion of our october's net profit in this project.
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:45 PM)
incredibly opinionated lines at GA.
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:20:56 PM)
don't know why
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:21:18 PM)
Is it possible to see this original contract of which was not returned, and do you have any idea what contract Sting and company plans to show us this week?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:07 PM)
we have thrown our copies away, as the counterparty didn't want to sign it, although this has been promised for day. Purchase price was the take over of players liabilities up to 360K. Nothing more. I wouldn't be surprided, knowing Chris, to see some fake copy posted on his site.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:34 PM)
hello all
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:50 PM)
ROYAL: Will players be paid out if 5xrollover is met?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:51 PM)
zzz you have another question for our guest
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:23:54 PM)
Ethically this can be considered a bailout but since you did/do now have connections with the entity which had our funds you can see where this would be relevant to players in general yes?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:22 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:39 PM)
we have rescued 250 players whom otherwise would be holding nothing in their hands. This is what I see Bill.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:24:48 PM)
how much was paid to the owners of GA if anything by you and how much did they stiff neteller for with a rubber check??
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:10 PM)
we have not paid silver. The neteller issue is 4K
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:16 PM)
I can respect that notion, but for every player who
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:16 PM)
lol
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:23 PM)
does not go on the forums
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:35 PM)
and does not know about ROyal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:25:37 PM)
we have informed all players mailing them
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:08 PM)
i have a question
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:11 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me ty
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:22 PM)
they may want to see something in writing as you do have a legal connection with GA as opposed to giving everyone their funds in Royal account
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:43 PM)
You can see where I;m coming from?
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:44 PM)
sorry i'm late, what is going on??
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:26:54 PM)
so many are saying that royal will make this and royal will make that by having the players roll over blah blah blah
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:18 PM)
Royal wont make anything if they didnt get anything
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:18 PM)
GA is a brand of Royal Sports. I do see you point and have greatly appreciated your persistance in trying to understand what was really going on.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:46 PM)
if royal didnt get any bank accounts and didnt get the post ups then what ever royal pays is a negative for them until GA starts genertaing a profit
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:27:53 PM)
and while I appreciate the brand name of ROyal, not everyone is willing to accept hearsay
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:00 PM)
vega sucks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:05 PM)
Yet you also have to understand a few other minor detalis, such as the fact ( the LIE ) that Grande was in the loop. I have personally spoken with Skip.
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:15 PM)
bill your starting to suck
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:19 PM)
correct zzzzz
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:22 PM)
bigboy dan you're up
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:28 PM)
not to mention I would like to cast my stones in the correct direction and be a client of ROyal if it is so
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:28:54 PM)
i have a question
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:11 PM)
hurry the f up
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:14 PM)
Bill, Royal is not neither does want to be a hero. We have stepped in in a critical situation for GA.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:25 PM)
if this buyout was any other top tier book would this rollover even be in affect ?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:46 PM)
ask them bbd
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:29:50 PM)
jpey pick you are up next after bigboydan
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:01 PM)
Oly did 10x with camelot
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:17 PM)
sorry to ask out of turn here, but whats going on, whats the big news
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:22 PM)
cascade 20x and you had to match deposit
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:44 PM)
stfu liam wait your turn like everybody else
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:51 PM)
yeah liam
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:51 PM)
sorry chatmaster
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:30:59 PM)
jpey you're up
SubZaero (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:03 PM)
royal are being to nice
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:06 PM)
the news is that we formally invite all believers in the former owner of GA Mr. Costigan to approach him for a different bailout
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:29 PM)
Just got my password. What have I missed? Is the bailout still going ahead?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:43 PM)
ok, compair the camelot position to this one was the money that more bigger than this situation or about the same ?
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:47 PM)
s
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:48 PM)
joeypick u have a question?
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:31:52 PM)
Here are my 2 questions. [1] Will players we paid (ie Cashout allowed) if 5 x Rollover is met ?? and [2] With GA stiffing Neteller how does is effect furure dealing with Neteller for GA players?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:15 PM)
i was not around when camelot was bailedout/boughtout
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:27 PM)
thats why i ask
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:34 PM)
1) Yes. 2) Royal Sports stands good for all GA players and related payment processors
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:47 PM)
mr dozer fire away
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:56 PM)
oops wasnt ready
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:32:59 PM)
ill go next
JoeyPickEm (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:00 PM)
Thanks Royal. All I need to know.
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:02 PM)
dan, GA wasnt bought but went belly up
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:18 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me and i will announce your turn ty
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:32 PM)
i can't pm, please put me in line chatmaster
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:40 PM)
sure liam
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:33:48 PM)
thanks
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:15 PM)
bill do u still have a question?
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:28 PM)
Where's the mens room?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:31 PM)
liam your up
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:36 PM)
thanks
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:34:56 PM)
i do apologize but I came in here half an hour late, may i inquire as towards the purpose of this meeting and what it means
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:05 PM)
fishhead and then jdog to follow
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:28 PM)
now?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:31 PM)
to put an end to all gossips and agenda related to the bailout of GA
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:31 PM)
Liam , I will post the transcript later
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:36 PM)
ok thanks everyone
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:41 PM)
fishhead your up
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:35:48 PM)
Ok.............
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:06 PM)
here comes fishhead stepping into the batters box
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:08 PM)
welllllllllllllllllllllllll
drako (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:16 PM)
??
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:17 PM)
batter up
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:26 PM)
GA was still GA as of last weekend so my question is this................
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:26 PM)
Next
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:39 PM)
??
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:45 PM)
jdog up after fish then zzzz
hanover (Nov 10, 2003 8:36:54 PM)
drum roll
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:02 PM)
good question fish
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:07 PM)
lol
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:09 PM)
ROYAL--- how did you make such a decision such as this on such short time? Did you know GA was in trouble earlier????
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:37:49 PM)
Fish, as previously explained we were looking for a book that could fit our need to target the recreational segment
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:19 PM)
jdog u r up
jdog (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:21 PM)
are you still going to do the squares on selected football games
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:21 PM)
so you were hunting??
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:27 PM)
it didn't take a rocket scientist to understand that GA's business module was the perfect receipt for disaster
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:32 PM)
ok
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:38:59 PM)
zzzz up next than grandpappy
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:01 PM)
like we said last night I have little faith in reduced juice shops that give aways bonuses
OLDFRIEND (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:11 PM)
Royal, How could a sportsbook have $360k in players accounts owed.. and have no money at all to pay there players? Do you think there is cash somewhere?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:27 PM)
no. nada. zilch.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:29 PM)
old friend cutting right to the front of the line shocking
OLDFRIEND (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:36 PM)
sorry
jdog (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:38 PM)
i wasnt around last nite sorry
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:44 PM)
does that shock you lol
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:49 PM)
zzz you r up
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:55 PM)
so can we be clear, was GA paid for by royal (GA WAS BOUGHT) or did Royal only need to accept player liability (BAILED OUT A BANKRUPT BIZ)??? HOW MUCH WAS PAID BY ROYAL FOR GA??? HOW MUCH WAS AGREED??? how much was the total number in player accounts and how much was in pending withdrawls??
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:39:58 PM)
why wait OF cuts right to the chase
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:30 PM)
zzzzz, we have not paid a dime. We have taken over players liabilities. period
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:42 PM)
HOW MUCH LIABILITY?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:45 PM)
360K
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:49 PM)
grandfather your turn
grandfather (Nov 10, 2003 8:40:53 PM)
250 players you say? I'm not in the loop, but this seems very low. Is it by industry standards? Thanks
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:09 PM)
sick up next
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:14 PM)
250 actives, 1200 dormant
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:30 PM)
HOW CAN THE GAMING COMMUNITY STAND BY AS THIS SLIMY THING CALLED STING DOES WHAT HE DOES???
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:36 PM)
LETS REVOLT
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:41:48 PM)
VIVA LAREVOLUTION
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:10 PM)
skin you r up next
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:21 PM)
i can't wait for this one, should be good let's hear it sick gambler
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:25 PM)
GO SICK GAMBLER
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:44 PM)
how is this move going to make you a winner in the long haul? I mean, 360 large to put out for this, how in the world will ROYAL benefit from this? I don't see this at all.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:42:49 PM)
my bad sick your turn
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:16 PM)
only sting = ga owner benefits from this
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:22 PM)
he stuck it to you royal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:30 PM)
sick, good kid : we have an additional book that starts from 250. We have acquired a recent dormant db.
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:41 PM)
Any hot lady's need a real man......Aw!! Sorry I guess I'm in the wrong chat..lol...
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:53 PM)
lmao
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:43:56 PM)
players acquisition costs are high these days
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:13 PM)
tremendously high
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:15 PM)
hes sitting on player post ups........360k of post ups.......sting is a thief
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:15 PM)
i've got a question.... where's JJGOLD?
Loman (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:24 PM)
if its the right 250,can recover the 360 in one year
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:44:48 PM)
depends on how the season evolves
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:06 PM)
NFL has finally turned in favor of books
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:09 PM)
we shall see
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:16 PM)
I predict 20 of the 250 stay
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:28 PM)
12
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:30 PM)
thenskin your turn
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:30 PM)
4
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:38 PM)
skin you r up
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:38 PM)
ATTENTION ALL HACKERS......dos sports911.com.................hes sitting on 360K........cash
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:39 PM)
100
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:40 PM)
Royal, first thanks for stepping in here with this bailout. What is the situation with the rollover? I was nearing completion of my 5x rollover at GA. Am I now required to start from scratch?
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:45:46 PM)
I have a question, well probably because I am stupid, but what is the money line. I don't understand the -140 or +250 thing?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:20 PM)
skin . Unfortunately yes
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:21 PM)
bbob 1972 you are a riot
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:28 PM)
FOLKS WE HAVE FOUND IVAN JIVING
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:39 PM)
byel iam
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:47 PM)
bob....-140 means you have to risk 140 to win 100
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:48 PM)
ten six niner ten six niner.....we got hookers on the blvd
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:46:58 PM)
+250 means you have to risk 100 to win 250
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:05 PM)
I'm serious...I don't understand the money line wager..
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:09 PM)
OK
Ironlock (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:11 PM)
see above
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:12 PM)
bill dozer fire away
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:19 PM)
This being a business I'd like to ask for anything outside of hearsay about Sting owning GA since you picked it up from him (anything more than reason to believe??) Accusations back and fourth are better left unsaid if without proof. From a person on the outside looking in all they know is GA is now Royal with each side saying the other has wronged the client. Can you offer any information that can be considered without having to consider the character of who said it?? You can understand that as much as you helped players a book could take advantage the same way without Documentation. You acknowledge this??? Especially when the side getting bailed turns on the helper….
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:19 PM)
thank you Ironlosk
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:20 PM)
look at Ironlock
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:21 PM)
vega is mean
stevo (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:23 PM)
thats right
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:31 PM)
u type fast
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:34 PM)
guys
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:37 PM)
please wait to talk
bbob1972 (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:44 PM)
what does -140 mean
Liam_Brady_the_CFL_guy (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:52 PM)
140 bucks to win 100
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 8:47:58 PM)
wtf
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:48:16 PM)
This being a business I'd like to ask for anything outside of hearsay about Sting owning GA since you picked it up from him (anything more than reason to believe??) Accusations back and fourth are better left unsaid if without proof. From a person on the outside looking in all they know is GA is now Royal with each side saying the other has wronged the client. Can you offer any information that can be considered without having to consider the character of who said it?? You can understand that as much as you helped players a book could take advantage the same way without Documentation. You acknowledge this??? Especially when the side getting bailed turns on the helper….
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:48:17 PM)
i thought vega was booted from here
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:02 PM)
Also, How did so many of us get the day off from Wal Mart
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:03 PM)
?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:22 PM)
veterans day bill
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:26 PM)
sting just posted the original contract
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:33 PM)
bob pullover i see a donkin donuts the hookers arent going anywhere
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:36 PM)
can we huurry up? kickoff is in about 10 min.
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:46 PM)
i agree
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:49:56 PM)
hurry up kickoffs is approching
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:03 PM)
well Royal says its fake so...
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:05 PM)
Bill, I understand your point. Let me put it this way. I am very cautious by nature when I express myself in public. Russ and SBR know me personally and hope they can confirm. I would never say something just to hurt. I have my reasons to believe means I cannot and don't want to reveal sources. Fair enough ?
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:06 PM)
Nobody's forcing you guys to stay
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:31 PM)
hali, its like a soap opera were hooked lol
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:35 PM)
bigboydan, sting said to tell you to be careful with the teeth when blowing him
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 8:50:45 PM)
True
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:11 PM)
zzz, thats a low blow man
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:19 PM)
he also said to find a better lotion for next time
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:20 PM)
i side with nobody here
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:25 PM)
can anyone confirm that Sting and\or Silvers have been physically threatened?
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:29 PM)
Royal, its not fair to the player but I can respect it as long as you can respect me being the squeaky wheel trying to get some grease to info I think I am entitled to, Thanks for answering, Also I do not know you or the aforementioned.
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:30 PM)
lucky streak you r up
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:35 PM)
i just want everyone to be happy with the out come of this one
Lucky_Streak (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:36 PM)
If GA is to be aimed at the recreational player can we expect the lines to reflect this, e.g. a -5 elsewhere might be a -5.5 and a +5 elsewhere might be a +5.5 ? (assuming recreational players play a lot of favorites) ? Or will each of the 3 books set it's own line seperately to balance the action only in that book. I.e. is there any point in having an account at more than 1 of the three books ?
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:37 PM)
rumor is your all great but...
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:42 PM)
i am only saying that cause you dont stop stroking him on his board
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:46 PM)
bill, it seems what you are looking/asking for is a reulated industry.............offshore gambling is far from that. while i understand your line of questioning, what you are asking for is never going to happen
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:51:51 PM)
hes a loser thief
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:04 PM)
sorry, <>
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:22 PM)
i do nothing of the sort i post on his board thats it no more no less
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:31 PM)
Lucky,we are creating a separate lineroom for GA. It will take few more days but it will soon be there.
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:33 PM)
no emoticons here... shiiit
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:35 PM)
raisin, No one has to do anything. That much is obviosl
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:35 PM)
sorry pal
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:47 PM)
don't forget we have bailed GA out 6 days ago....
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:55 PM)
if anybody has a question for roberto, please pm me
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:52:58 PM)
great job royal
BillDozer (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:11 PM)
Royal, I know the facts. Its a lack of that I find frustrating
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:12 PM)
good stiff by sting
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:12 PM)
skin your up
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:21 PM)
zzz, i can roll with the punches and i know your just razzing me so i take no offense to anything
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:25 PM)
btw, I would like to say something to fish
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:27 PM)
exactly bill
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:32 PM)
fish, you around ?
drako (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:41 PM)
eddiemyman?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:42 PM)
just fuking around pal, im glad your a sport
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:44 PM)
yes
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:53:45 PM)
Royal will my funds be held in an escrow account now you have taken over?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:10 PM)
zzz, no biggie really i can see where your "cumming" from
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:17 PM)
lol
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:38 PM)
lol
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:42 PM)
sting has the whitest teeth i ever "came" across
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:44 PM)
ok, bbd and zzzz.........isn't it past your bed time?
zzzzz (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:51 PM)
http://www.gambling911.com/GA-Royal-Purchase-Agreement.html
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:54:54 PM)
skin, yes. One of the things I have been insisitng on was the creation of a separate escrow from the operational account. By the end of december this year we will have this escrow certified by a local auditing firm on monthly basis
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:11 PM)
yes it is i gotta be up for church at 6am lol
skin (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:15 PM)
that is good to know, thanks
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:55:50 PM)
I promised SBR I would have done it and never forgot to keep my word so far, correct SBR ?
MJISBACK (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:09 PM)
bye guys off to watch da game
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:18 PM)
cya mjisback
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:39 PM)
so far....so good...still a little cool on this GA deal...trying to stay open minded though
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:56 PM)
whas up Roberto?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:56:59 PM)
me too sbr
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:01 PM)
Fish, we have been able to create the website in less than 48 hours as it is basically a clone of lay107 , just differen graphics
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:24 PM)
change a few graphics & walla!
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:26 PM)
ok, love lay107
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:40 PM)
SBR, I appreciate when you give me a chance to beat your money
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:42 PM)
great hockey prices at the new GA..
sick_gambler (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:51 PM)
sorry, i mean lay 107
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:51 PM)
any further questions?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:57:57 PM)
i do
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:58:19 PM)
fire away danny
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:58:31 PM)
as far as the rollover requirements go how many people have met them or are close to the requirments as of today ?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:31 PM)
bbd, I'm honestly still busy in reconciliating the second batch of data just arrived from costa rica. I expect the first payouts tomorrow or wednesday if I recall right
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:48 PM)
any further quastions?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:54 PM)
going once...
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:57 PM)
yes, i did not get in
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 8:59:59 PM)
in your best estimated guess who many you think ?
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:00 PM)
I think MW and the RX should each schedule a couple chatroom sessions per week.........great for the business
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:21 PM)
is the agreement on sting's site real or fake?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:27 PM)
fake
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:34 PM)
skin your turn
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:38 PM)
there is no contract as silver never signed it
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:43 PM)
how would u know if he just posted it?
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:00:46 PM)
Will you be offering Rugby or Soccer lines like the old GA?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:00 PM)
how would you know if he just posted it and you were in here?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:10 PM)
that does not make sense
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:13 PM)
or do u mean
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:16 PM)
no rugby. We will have a soccerlineroom up and running by this coming february
Mjulian (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:19 PM)
Fishhead the RX sucks
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:20 PM)
the contract is not valid?
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:26 PM)
he probably clicked on the link as i did
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:45 PM)
lol
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:45 PM)
i thought he said it was fake before it went up on the site
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:01:54 PM)
sportsguy.....the contract was never signed. There will be no contract.
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:11 PM)
is the the contract that you guys were going to sign then?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:18 PM)
but that did not work out?
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:41 PM)
sbr you're up
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:45 PM)
Did you say earlier you think ("reason to believe")Sting was a Principal in GA? Or did I missunderstand your intent?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:47 PM)
please clarify
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:57 PM)
If there is no contract doesn't that throw the legal position up in the air?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:02:59 PM)
I have reason to believe, yes I do.
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:01 PM)
i find one thing in that contact very interesting
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:18 PM)
skin, nothing is in the air
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:24 PM)
why would the check be made out to the corp name of darwin holdings?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:26 PM)
the domain has been transferred
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:30 PM)
the db too
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:36 PM)
i see they ask it to be made out to click1media
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:37 PM)
bailout complete
sbr.com (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:47 PM)
Thank you for your time Roberto...good luck with the newest Royal addition
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:54 PM)
so you never intended to have a contract
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:03:57 PM)
thank you SBR
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:16 PM)
if there is nothign further
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:30 PM)
hello room
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:31 PM)
i would like to thank roberto for his time and patience
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:37 PM)
we initially wanted to have a contract and have provided it to the counterparty. the counterparty, in spite of several promises, never returned it
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:48 PM)
so that was the contract
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:55 PM)
but it never was commenced
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:04:59 PM)
that is all i am asking
Bostongambler (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:00 PM)
Hi Devil
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:00 PM)
So this whole situation has been negotiated on word of mouth?
Fishhead (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:06 PM)
GOOD LUCK roberto and to Royal
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:19 PM)
so that was the contract/framework?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:24 PM)
no skin, we have emails, chats, and taped phone calls
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:26 PM)
but it never commenced
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:46 PM)
It seems like I got to the end of it. Good luck Roberto and KUDOS for stepping in
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:05:54 PM)
i am trying to understand if this is fake or just not valid because no one signed it
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:15 PM)
Will there be a transcript of the chat somewhere later?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:23 PM)
was there ever anything in writing before this transaction took place ??
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:24 PM)
yes there will
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:24 PM)
sportsguy, whoever is not happy may request the former owner to bail him out. Situation is that on Nov 3 GA was a nopay
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:33 PM)
sports.....it was offered to Silvers-that I know firsthand
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:35 PM)
A lot of things in this business are done with a hand shake skin
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:48 PM)
major - where should we look for that transcript for those of us that were later
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:51 PM)
i just want to know if the contract is fake as you stated or that it is not valid
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:56 PM)
there is a big difference
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:06:57 PM)
mess hall in the moring
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:01 PM)
ty
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:04 PM)
np
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:07 PM)
right, devil...that's what so many people refuse to understand...this ain't wall street
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:15 PM)
by the way major these a great (chats) do more
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:22 PM)
DAMN greenbay recovered the fumble
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:42 PM)
exactly kosar.....u lose your word in this business and u are out of it
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:55 PM)
right
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:07:55 PM)
the contractual conditions as reported on g911 are not the ones that have been agreed with silver. if silver is the former owner than what reported on 911 is fake, if costigan is the former owner then....
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:28 PM)
royal
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:34 PM)
maybe i can add some background
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:41 PM)
i have a question about that contract sting posted
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:08:52 PM)
ok, thanks for the answer, i guess
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:02 PM)
ga took over odds n ends i know odds and ends for years
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:07 PM)
the devil, kosar
kosar (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:23 PM)
skin
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:41 PM)
ga built on odds and ends when odds sold to ga....we took over ga as an advertiser
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:48 PM)
why is it that sting states the corp of GA was Darwin Holdings, yet he ask that the check for 15,000 be written out to Click 1 Media?
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:09:58 PM)
i only dealt with silver
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:04 PM)
i wondered that too clev good question
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:21 PM)
must have to do with some of those players being delivered, read down the contract
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:23 PM)
Click 1 Media is still owned by "Mike Silver"
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:26 PM)
I just went to 911 and checked it. This is not the draft we have
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:29 PM)
I know that as a fact
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:42 PM)
i know walk of life, that is why i ask
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:10:54 PM)
do we know who "mike silver" is?
clevfan (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:12 PM)
so, why would they ask for a check made out to click 1 and not the corp name?
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:25 PM)
fishy....to say the least
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:42 PM)
one existed, the other didn't?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:43 PM)
what I can tell you is that in the list of GA liabilities there was a lona of 15K in favor of click1media
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:11:43 PM)
maybe silver is the sole owner of click1...and has partners in the other
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:07 PM)
no....the 15K came up in the very beginning.
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:16 PM)
this was the money silver wanted for himself
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:31 PM)
and silver is click 1
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:44 PM)
does click one still have to send the 150 players from the contract details?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:46 PM)
Gamblers Avenue - the advertising website- was owned by the same person that owns Click1Media
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:53 PM)
tom abramson
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:54 PM)
exactly Devil
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:12:59 PM)
Abrahamsen
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:02 PM)
did the book owe Click1 for advertising?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:07 PM)
and for this reason silver agreed in placing ALL accounts, including pending payouts that I wanted to process, on 5x rollover
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:07 PM)
do they still have to send 150 players
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:22 PM)
So, it is a BAIL-OUT
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:33 PM)
yes will
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:33 PM)
yes Chris..oh sorry Sportsguy, you are right
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:42 PM)
they could not come to terms
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:53 PM)
thank sports
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:13:57 PM)
welcome
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:00 PM)
got here late
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:04 PM)
me2
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:12 PM)
i missed like 30 minutes
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:35 PM)
i just want everybody to be happy with the terms on this but the way it looks it will never be
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:45 PM)
I guess it would be nice if you would give your side of the story Chris
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:14:55 PM)
if you can't survive a 5x, you shouldn't be gambling
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:07 PM)
i thought a happy medium with a 3x's rollover was more than fair on both sides
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:26 PM)
why did you think that?
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:29 PM)
this was my initial offer to Chris but he said nada
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:31 PM)
I thought a 5x rollover was fair to both sides, considering that the players would get zero otherwise
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:36 PM)
no BBD, a 3X rollover is a loser ofr the book
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:40 PM)
If the alternative to a 5x rollover was being stiffed then I am more than happy about the 5x rollover.
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:43 PM)
is chris the owner or silver
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:15:59 PM)
you know who the owner is Chris
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:00 PM)
TTinCO, I think you mean "If you can't survive a 5x, you shouldn't be bonus whoring"
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:02 PM)
hell i took the 10x rollover from oly for camelot and was relived to get that
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:03 PM)
3x's rollover is more than fair i thought
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:18 PM)
thats the norm on bonuses in the first place isnt it ?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:18 PM)
LMFAO @ Halifax
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:20 PM)
why should they knock it down to 3x?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:31 PM)
think all you want roberto but i am not chris as you think, i am one of your players
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:36 PM)
Very true Hali.....
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:45 PM)
asking hard questions because i am trying to understand who is telling the truth
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:51 PM)
you or chris
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:16:55 PM)
OK, if that is the case I apologize.
buckeye (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:01 PM)
Why leave it as GA, instead of folding the customers in?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:08 PM)
apology accepted
Minnow (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:21 PM)
I think Sting and the truth are on opposite sides of the spectrum and not just in this case
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:21 PM)
sportsguy: have you been asking chris/sting hard questions, too?
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:22 PM)
do you think clevfan would be praised by me if i was chris
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:30 PM)
buck, it's a "new offering"......low limit, big bonus
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:31 PM)
as I have said before.....I have reason to believe chris is the real owner. time will tell
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:32 PM)
i praised her several times today
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:45 PM)
who is chris?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:47 PM)
royal, i'm not taking sides either way all im trying to do is make sure the players are happy with everything the main thing i feel is the players didnt get stiffed
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:48 PM)
i ask everyone
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:52 PM)
hard questions
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:54 PM)
Chris is Sting
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:17:55 PM)
but
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:05 PM)
bigboy,
coloradogreg (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:06 PM)
ty
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:06 PM)
the info is more free from censorship here it seems
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:11 PM)
The fact that Roberto is here answering questions and that Sting/Chris has been avoiding them, should be a good indicator as to who's telling the truth
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:31 PM)
Very true midnight
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:35 PM)
well, silence does not mean your guilty
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:35 PM)
not many books will step in and assume a big loss like royal did..............
chatmaster (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:41 PM)
chris has been answering questions...his questions
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:50 PM)
remember we have certain rights
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:18:59 PM)
true
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:05 PM)
only fair to give them a shot to recoup
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:19 PM)
sports, I've seen enough lies firsthand to know who is in the right here......it's brutal
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:19 PM)
agreed that royal did good for stepping up
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:22 PM)
yet there has been no intention to confront each other publicly
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:36 PM)
I made myself available, chirs not
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:39 PM)
evading the issue is a pretty good sign that the evader is trying to hide something
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:41 PM)
players can make or break a book and thats why i want them to feel confortable with this whole ordeal because thats my main concern here
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:19:55 PM)
bbd???
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:01 PM)
what are you talking about?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:11 PM)
this rollover stuff
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:31 PM)
can the players live with it or not
The_Major (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:31 PM)
yes
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:33 PM)
They were a SHIT BOOK who was GIVING AWAY THE PLACE
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:36 PM)
thats the question
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:50 PM)
they got burnt......surprise, surprise
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:53 PM)
bbd,
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:54 PM)
if they can then its settled in my mind
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:56 PM)
I have a question for you bbd
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:20:57 PM)
the players can live with it and we all need to move on soon
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:05 PM)
bbd, from past experience, i will say that at least 60% of the players royal picked up will cash out as soon as the roll is met
sportsguy1965 (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:07 PM)
are you chris bbd
raisencain (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:10 PM)
can they live with it or not????????? they get that or nothing BBD.........what would you want?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:14 PM)
Dan..... No bailout from Royal = EVERYBODY SCREWED.
BigMo (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:36 PM)
royal, thanks, good luck to you.
the_devil (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:36 PM)
agreed Uncle
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:37 PM)
do players send money to books to gamble or they send money to books as they would keep it in their saving accounts ?
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:43 PM)
If I were Royal, I'd shut down Gambler's Avenue, let everybody collect from Sting and Silver or whoever, and start my own book. They do a good thing by bailing out players, and the people being bailed out whine like a bunch of babies because they don't get everything their own way.
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:21:57 PM)
5 x Rollover is a blessing for GA players... If they are too damn dense to see that, screw em..
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:11 PM)
thank for booting me
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:12 PM)
agree with Uncle B
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:14 PM)
Thanks Devil
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:24 PM)
players have become spoiled
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:25 PM)
I will be happy to process the first payouts for GA customers in the next hours and days
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:27 PM)
Hiya GakMasterW
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:38 PM)
sup Nutts Power
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:42 PM)
as a solid proof that the 5x rollover was not a killer
TTinCO (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:48 PM)
keep playing at shit books & you deserve a good hard old fashioned stiffing to wake you up
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:22:55 PM)
I'm surprised that they haven't asked you to 20% to everybody's balance and then letting them withdraw it right away for their inconvenience.
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:02 PM)
Just trying to stop watching that damn Hilton sex vid, and get to the game...
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:07 PM)
Royal: why did you bail out GA?
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:10 PM)
uncle no nuts i see you made it
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:14 PM)
LOL
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:31 PM)
I'm watching it as I type
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:35 PM)
Walk, its a brand we were looking at. Things have moved fast
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:52 PM)
Branding... makes sense. I thought so
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:23:59 PM)
Thanks Roberto
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:42 PM)
lol
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:46 PM)
I don't see the point to it myself, unless it's a good will/image thing, but it's your money and decision
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:47 PM)
Thank you ladies and gentlemen. has been a pleasure spending time with you all tonight. Now lets go back to NFL !
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:48 PM)
"no comment"
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:24:58 PM)
damn it man!!!
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:18 PM)
LMFAO
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:24 PM)
Nuttsy late again?
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:25 PM)
ok
bigboydan (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:27 PM)
uncle nutless who you got in this game tonight philly or GB ?
Walk_of_Life (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:30 PM)
Thanks Roberto
Uncle_B (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:33 PM)
lol
skin (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:33 PM)
thanks Royal!
midnight (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:37 PM)
thaks for your time Roberto
Halifax (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:37 PM)
BigBoy, are the players happy ? I only had $700 at GA, and I'm happy with the 5x. If I had $15K at GA and got a 5x, I would be REALLY happy.
Royal (Nov 10, 2003 9:25:43 PM)
Goodnight everyone.
