What about this...are these guys anti-Rx? Now I know why I try not to leave here very often...you guys can edit if you want. I just saw this and thought it was interesting they mentioned here:
A Look at Some Real Scammers
By Parlaythis
October 13th, 2003
Scammers and their various alleged scams, including the rampant use of multiple accounts at a single sportsbook to grab undeserved bonus dollars or circumvent limits, exploded recently as a hot forum topic.
But first, I'd like to introduce you to a real "stand-up guy.'
This gentleman has never slow-paid, let alone stiffed, anyone. So far as I know, he's never even received a customer complaint.
You want "deep pockets"? This guy lives in a 7-bedroom mansion. I know; I've seen pictures. He surrounds himself with bodyguards. He owns dozens of gold-handled canes (he really knows how to accessorize) and keeps his wife bedecked in the finest jewelry. He even owns a sizeable proportion of a bank.
The man represents a classic Horatio Alger story. He arrived in America with only $2.50. From humble beginnings, he pulled himself up by his own bootstraps. Starting on a shoestring as a one-man operation, he grew his business to the point where it now fills a sprawling two-room office and serves over 10,000 satisfied clients.
Oh, I almost forgot. He offers a 50% bonus. His company formally requires you to leave your money on deposit for 90 days, but, in practice, he always pays out balances in full, including the bonus, within half that time, or after 45 days.
How does he do it? Who cares? In less than a year, he's already thoroughly outdistanced the competition and survived a run on the bank. Some mean-spirited rumor*****rs - probably jealous rivals - dared to question his solvency, and he responded by promptly paying everyone. Even nervous accountholders, frightened into cashing out early, received their requested withdrawals immediately, although they forfeited the bonus. The proprietor remained unfazed, and took time to reassure everyone that he has millions dispersed in various banks throughout the world, far in excess of what he needs to cover all post-ups and liabilities.
I think the skeptics owe him a big apology. Why don't they wait until he slow pays or stiffs someone before they criticize him? Here's a guy who fled his native land, raised capital, and started a firm that employs people and always pays on time.
People ask, how can he make a profit paying 50% bonuses every 45 days and still recoup all his other costs? He simply buys at one price, and sells at another. Remember, a line is nothing but a price. He earns off the spread. This guy knows what he's doing. If he didn't, how could he have come so far so fast? He's sharp, and there are obviously lots of squares.
OK, so he has a criminal record. In this business, who doesn't? In the U.S., you can't legally do what this individual purports to do; so all transactions are conducted overseas, outside the purview of the feds. Anyway, I don't believe there's much chance that he gets arrested any time soon. In the city where he resides, 75% of the local police reportedly are customers of his.
Big bonuses, sure, but he must compete with plenty of other guys in his area who do essentially the same thing. Let's face it; you can't make significant money by putting your cash in the bank.
One cynic describes this man's business model as "borrowing money from investors at usurious rates of interest." Accountants, seeing no evidence he operates in the black, nitpick and claim that his lavish bonuses are not truly analogous to dividends or interest payments, but instead equate to a distribution of capital. Of course, for competitive reasons he can't disclose his volume figures or exactly how he manages to afford such massive bonuses, expenses, and personal outlays. He doesn't run a public company, and he works too hard to share his moneymaking secrets with just anyone who wants to know.
I say, why look a gift horse in the mouth? You need to purge yourself of all preconceived notions and modernize your thinking if you want to be like me and collect big bonuses.
The beauty of it is, he doesn't even need to make a profit; just continue bringing in new funds. After all, you don't need to make millions of bucks to live like a multimillionaire. You only have to raise millions and keep on refinancing.
I have a good feeling about this guy. He exudes supreme confidence, and I like that. I trust him, and many other folks feel the same way. He has dudes acting as agents or affiliates who happily invest their "referral bonuses" into post-up accounts with his company. Most of his clients can't wait to put their money right back into their accounts to take advantage of the 50% reload bonus.
Besides, his office manager, Lucy, is an 18-year-old girl. Would you rather speak to a gruff, cigar chomping, grizzled sportsbook clerk when you call, or talk to a cute young woman you can easily visualize participating in various lesbian acts with all the other hot young chicks you imagine working there?
Come to think of it, maybe I didn't select such a good example, because all of the above information describes Charles Ponzi, in August 1920, shortly before his infamous scheme unraveled and crashed, landing him in jail. Instead of offshore bookmaking, his alleged specialty involved the theoretical arbitrage available in international ****** supply coupons.
An astute veteran of the forums, who posts under the name "Cecil," and has played with dozens of books, wrote of NAB on May 24, 2002, "I just don't like to play with books that I cannot see how they could be profitable."
Within 5 months, NAB went broke.
As NAB gasped its dying breaths, industry insiders, uneasy creditors, and "watchdogs" opined that "Bill" (NAB's owner, Lance) should be left alone in his bid to lure more deposits from the unsuspecting. The Rx website even gave Bill his own forum in which he reigned exempt from criticism, ostensibly to "help" ordinary gamblers get paid. I wonder if Bill's supporters would express the same sentiments toward a destitute bettor frantically scrambling to obtain more credit accounts for the supposed purpose of winning enough to pay his existing bookmakers. Yet it's widely acknowledged that only a small proportion of books boast sufficient assets to completely redeem aggregate client balances.
If you're puzzled by unabashed defenders of swaggering bookies like Bill and Camelot's Mark Del, who persist in singing their praises even after they stiff loyal post-up clients, take note that when he was finally deported on October 7, 1934, many of Ponzi's most steadfast fans turned out to give him a rousing sendoff.
A Look at Some Real Scammers
By Parlaythis
October 13th, 2003
Scammers and their various alleged scams, including the rampant use of multiple accounts at a single sportsbook to grab undeserved bonus dollars or circumvent limits, exploded recently as a hot forum topic.
But first, I'd like to introduce you to a real "stand-up guy.'
This gentleman has never slow-paid, let alone stiffed, anyone. So far as I know, he's never even received a customer complaint.
You want "deep pockets"? This guy lives in a 7-bedroom mansion. I know; I've seen pictures. He surrounds himself with bodyguards. He owns dozens of gold-handled canes (he really knows how to accessorize) and keeps his wife bedecked in the finest jewelry. He even owns a sizeable proportion of a bank.
The man represents a classic Horatio Alger story. He arrived in America with only $2.50. From humble beginnings, he pulled himself up by his own bootstraps. Starting on a shoestring as a one-man operation, he grew his business to the point where it now fills a sprawling two-room office and serves over 10,000 satisfied clients.
Oh, I almost forgot. He offers a 50% bonus. His company formally requires you to leave your money on deposit for 90 days, but, in practice, he always pays out balances in full, including the bonus, within half that time, or after 45 days.
How does he do it? Who cares? In less than a year, he's already thoroughly outdistanced the competition and survived a run on the bank. Some mean-spirited rumor*****rs - probably jealous rivals - dared to question his solvency, and he responded by promptly paying everyone. Even nervous accountholders, frightened into cashing out early, received their requested withdrawals immediately, although they forfeited the bonus. The proprietor remained unfazed, and took time to reassure everyone that he has millions dispersed in various banks throughout the world, far in excess of what he needs to cover all post-ups and liabilities.
I think the skeptics owe him a big apology. Why don't they wait until he slow pays or stiffs someone before they criticize him? Here's a guy who fled his native land, raised capital, and started a firm that employs people and always pays on time.
People ask, how can he make a profit paying 50% bonuses every 45 days and still recoup all his other costs? He simply buys at one price, and sells at another. Remember, a line is nothing but a price. He earns off the spread. This guy knows what he's doing. If he didn't, how could he have come so far so fast? He's sharp, and there are obviously lots of squares.
OK, so he has a criminal record. In this business, who doesn't? In the U.S., you can't legally do what this individual purports to do; so all transactions are conducted overseas, outside the purview of the feds. Anyway, I don't believe there's much chance that he gets arrested any time soon. In the city where he resides, 75% of the local police reportedly are customers of his.
Big bonuses, sure, but he must compete with plenty of other guys in his area who do essentially the same thing. Let's face it; you can't make significant money by putting your cash in the bank.
One cynic describes this man's business model as "borrowing money from investors at usurious rates of interest." Accountants, seeing no evidence he operates in the black, nitpick and claim that his lavish bonuses are not truly analogous to dividends or interest payments, but instead equate to a distribution of capital. Of course, for competitive reasons he can't disclose his volume figures or exactly how he manages to afford such massive bonuses, expenses, and personal outlays. He doesn't run a public company, and he works too hard to share his moneymaking secrets with just anyone who wants to know.
I say, why look a gift horse in the mouth? You need to purge yourself of all preconceived notions and modernize your thinking if you want to be like me and collect big bonuses.
The beauty of it is, he doesn't even need to make a profit; just continue bringing in new funds. After all, you don't need to make millions of bucks to live like a multimillionaire. You only have to raise millions and keep on refinancing.
I have a good feeling about this guy. He exudes supreme confidence, and I like that. I trust him, and many other folks feel the same way. He has dudes acting as agents or affiliates who happily invest their "referral bonuses" into post-up accounts with his company. Most of his clients can't wait to put their money right back into their accounts to take advantage of the 50% reload bonus.
Besides, his office manager, Lucy, is an 18-year-old girl. Would you rather speak to a gruff, cigar chomping, grizzled sportsbook clerk when you call, or talk to a cute young woman you can easily visualize participating in various lesbian acts with all the other hot young chicks you imagine working there?
Come to think of it, maybe I didn't select such a good example, because all of the above information describes Charles Ponzi, in August 1920, shortly before his infamous scheme unraveled and crashed, landing him in jail. Instead of offshore bookmaking, his alleged specialty involved the theoretical arbitrage available in international ****** supply coupons.
An astute veteran of the forums, who posts under the name "Cecil," and has played with dozens of books, wrote of NAB on May 24, 2002, "I just don't like to play with books that I cannot see how they could be profitable."
Within 5 months, NAB went broke.
As NAB gasped its dying breaths, industry insiders, uneasy creditors, and "watchdogs" opined that "Bill" (NAB's owner, Lance) should be left alone in his bid to lure more deposits from the unsuspecting. The Rx website even gave Bill his own forum in which he reigned exempt from criticism, ostensibly to "help" ordinary gamblers get paid. I wonder if Bill's supporters would express the same sentiments toward a destitute bettor frantically scrambling to obtain more credit accounts for the supposed purpose of winning enough to pay his existing bookmakers. Yet it's widely acknowledged that only a small proportion of books boast sufficient assets to completely redeem aggregate client balances.
If you're puzzled by unabashed defenders of swaggering bookies like Bill and Camelot's Mark Del, who persist in singing their praises even after they stiff loyal post-up clients, take note that when he was finally deported on October 7, 1934, many of Ponzi's most steadfast fans turned out to give him a rousing sendoff.
