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As far as I can tell, there's little sense in predicting the order of the top 5 or 10 teams because (like last season) every one of these teams can and probably will lose at least one game.

But look at who this guy put at #25. !!!

Bulldogs back at No. 1 in updated Top 25

By Mark Schlabach
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Updated: June 25, 2008, 10:55 AM ET
The calendar turns to July next week, leaving a little more than two months until the 2008 season kicks off.
If your favorite team made headlines during the past two months, the news probably wasn't good. Off-field problems and arrests have littered the college football landscape since spring practice ended, affecting many of the country's top teams.
Georgia and Ohio State remain atop the preseason Top 25 poll for 2008, although the Bulldogs and Buckeyes have flipped top spots since the May 9 edition.
And in what should be a surprise for many college football fans, Notre Dame debuts at No. 25 -- even after last season's 3-9 disaster.
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1. Georgia Bulldogs

Bulldogs coach Mark Richt has some lingering personnel issues as preseason camp approaches. Starting fullback Brannan Southerland, one of the country's best lead blockers, will miss the first five games with a foot injury. Possible starting defensive end Jeremy Lomax and offensive lineman Clint Boling have pending legal problems; Lomax was arrested on concealed weapons charges and Boling was charged with DUI. But QB Matthew Stafford and RB Knowshon Moreno keep the expectations high in Athens.
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2. Ohio State Buckeyes

Starting quarterback Todd Boeckman better stay healthy after backup Antonio Henton transferred to Division I-AA Georgia Southern. Henton's departure opens the door for highly regarded freshman Terrelle Pryor, who might be utilized like Florida's Tim Tebow was used as a freshman.
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3. Oklahoma Sooners

Sooners coach Bob Stoops spent much of the spring talking to boosters about his team's 5-1 record in Big 12 championship games. But many OU boosters still want to know what went wrong in Oklahoma's 1-4 record in its past five bowl games. Oklahoma's players are reminded of their 48-28 loss to West Virginia in the Fiesta Bowl each time they walk into the school's football complex. A banner displays a quote from Mountaineers quarterback Patrick White, who said his team "wanted it more."
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4. USC Trojans

A video of USC assistant coach Brennan Carroll putting walk-ons through a tryout was yanked off YouTube after some viewers objected to the coach's foul language. Trojans coach Pete Carroll said the video was a spoof and his program was only trying to have fun. What's not funny: The NCAA is poking around alleged rules violations involving former Trojans basketball star O.J. Mayo -- and is still trying to get to the bottom of the Reggie Bush scandal.
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5. Florida Gators

Bad news for Florida's opponents: Speedy junior receiver Percy Harvin is ahead of schedule in his recovery from offseason heel surgery. Gators coach Urban Meyer believes his offense might be better than it was a year ago, when Florida led the SEC in scoring with 42.5 points per game. Just don't ask Meyer if quarterback Tim Tebow will run the football less often in 2008; that subject remains taboo in Gainesville.
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6. Clemson Tigers

Tigers coach Tommy Bowden can begin feeling the pressure from his new $1.83 million contract. Clemson will try to win its first ACC title under Bowden without starting middle linebacker Cortney Vincent, who was dismissed from the team in May. Vincent started 12 of 13 games and had 68 tackles and seven tackles for loss. The Tigers will now be without their top four linebackers from last season.
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7. West Virginia Mountaineers

Mountaineers coach Bill Stewart dismissed safety Charles Pugh from the team following his arrest for allegedly using a stolen credit card. Pugh is the fourth West Virginia player -- and third potential defensive starter -- to be dismissed from the team by Stewart. Linebacker John Holmes and defensive lineman James Ingram were kicked off the team following their arrests for possession of marijuana. Stewart allowed former running back Jason Gwaltney to rejoin the team, but he won't be eligible to play during the 2008 season.
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8. Texas Tech Red Raiders

The battle for the starting tailback job got a little thinner when Red Raiders coach Mike Leach suspended junior Kobey Lewis from the team for an unspecified violation of team rules. Lewis, who ran 50 times for 189 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, left spring practice in a four-player battle for the starting job. Shannon Woods, Baron Batch and Aaron Crawford will continue the competition during preseason camp. Safety Steven Harris, a special-teams standout, also was suspended for the 2008 season.
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9. Missouri Tigers

The defending Big 12 North champions started voluntary summer workouts a week earlier for the second year in a row. The Tigers are without junior receiver Danario Alexander, who caught 37 passes for 417 yards and two touchdowns last season. Alexander underwent surgery earlier this month to repair damage in his left knee. There is good news for Missouri coach Gary Pinkel. Tight end Chase Coffman is fully recovered from surgery to remove bone spurs from his ankle.
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10. Auburn Tigers

New offensive coordinator Tony Franklin still hasn't settled on a starting quarterback, so offseason workouts will be very important for Chris Todd and Kodi Burns. Todd, a JC transfer, seems to have a better understanding of Franklin's spread offense, but he was plagued by shoulder problems during spring practice. Burns is a better runner, but Franklin wants to see more consistency from the sophomore.
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11. Texas Longhorns

Backup quarterback John Chiles will spend the summer trying to get a better grip of the offense. With the Longhorns trying to replace tailback Jamaal Charles, coach Mack Brown said he intends to use starting quarterback Colt McCoy and Chiles on offense. Look for Texas to be more creative on offense, incorporating some of the trick plays it used in a 52-34 victory over Arizona State in the Holiday Bowl.
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12. LSU Tigers

All eyes are on LSU's quarterbacks this summer, after heir apparent Ryan Perrilloux was dismissed from the team during the spring. Tigers coach Les Miles hinted during speaking engagements this spring that junior Andrew Hatch, a Harvard transfer, might have the edge over redshirt freshman Jarrett Lee. Highly regarded freshman Jordan Jefferson joins the competition during preseason camp.
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13. BYU Cougars

The Cougars have their sights set on a BCS bowl invitation, but they'll have to do it without top fullback Manase Tonga. The senior was ruled academically ineligible and will miss the 2008 season. Tonga ran for 305 yards and eight touchdowns and caught 27 passes for 248 yards last season. He also was a great lead blocker for Harvey Unga, who last year became the first BYU freshman to run for more than 1,000 yards in a season.
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14. Tennessee Volunteers

New starting quarterback Jonathan Crompton is throwing again after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his right elbow in late April. Crompton and the Volunteers' returning receivers will need summer workouts to iron out the offense installed by new offensive coordinator Dave Clawson. The Vols are holding their collective breath while waiting to see if junior running back Montario Hardesty fully recovers from a stress fracture in his lower leg.
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15. Arizona State Sun Devils

Sun Devils coach Dennis Erickson said quarterback Rudy Carpenter has fully recovered after undergoing surgery on his right thumb following spring practice. Erickson said Carpenter is in better physical condition and showed better mobility. Michael Jones, the Sun Devils' most experienced receiver, was selected in the 29th round of the amateur baseball draft by the New York Yankees earlier this month.
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16. Wisconsin Badgers

Kansas State transfer Allan Evridge wasn't named the Badgers' starting quarterback after spring practice, but the fifth-year senior has the edge over less experienced candidates. Coach Bret Bielema hopes Evrdige will take control of the team during voluntary summer workouts, but junior Dustin Sherer remains in the hunt for the starting job. Sherer has spent three seasons in the Wisconsin program, attempting only three passes.
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17. Kansas Jayhawks

Juco running back Jocques Crawford arrived in Lawrence for summer school and immediately turned heads. Crawford ran for nearly 2,000 yards and 19 touchdowns at Cisco (Texas) Junior College. The national JC player of the year is expected to share carries with junior Jake Sharp in the Jayhawks' spread offense this coming season.
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18. Illinois Fighting Illini

Senior receiver Kyle Hudson, who caught 12 passes for 127 yards and one touchdown last season, will forgo his final season of eligibility. Hudson, a two-sport star, was selected by the Baltimore Orioles in the fourth round of the amateur baseball draft earlier this month.
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19. Pittsburgh Panthers

Sophomore Maurice Williams, the Panthers' most impressive receiver during spring practice, has been ruled academically ineligible for the 2008 season. Williams, who caught five passes for 100 yards last season, was battling Oderick Turner for the starting split end job. Williams plans to remain in school and would have three seasons of eligibility remaining.
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20. Virginia Tech Hokies

The Hokies are hoping redshirt freshman Darren Evans has a better summer than their previous starting tailback did. Evans, a former Indiana Mr. Football, emerged as the leading contender to start at tailback after Branden Ore was dismissed from the team. Evans had a slight edge over redshirt freshman Josh Oglesby after spring practice. Juniors Kenny Lewis Jr. and Jahre Cheeseman were sidelined by injuries during the spring.
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21. Oregon Ducks

Can Oregon's quarterback competition get any more crowded? The Ducks figure to have at least six players battling for the right to replace Dennis Dixon when preseason camp opens. Sophomore Nate Costa, who had knee surgery last fall, left spring practice as the favorite. Sophomore Justin Roper, who starred in the Sun Bowl victory over South Florida, is probably his closest competitor. Two freshmen -- Darron Thomas and Chris Harper -- enrolled at Oregon before spring drills, and JC transfer Jeremiah Masoli joins the battle this summer. Junior walk-on Cade Cooper also is competing for the job.
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22. Wake Forest Demon Deacons

How much have expectations changed in Winston-Salem, N.C.? The Demon Deacons are again considered to be ACC championship contenders after posting consecutive winning seasons, which included the 2006 ACC title. Since the ACC was formed in 1953, the Demon Deacons have never had three straight winning seasons.
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23. Fresno State Bulldogs

The Bulldogs open the season at Rutgers on Sept. 1, but coach Pat Hill is calling the Sept. 13 home game against Wisconsin the biggest game in Bulldog Stadium history. With 16 starters back from a team that finished 9-4 in 2007, Fresno State is a popular choice to unseat Boise State and Hawaii in the WAC and contend for a spot in a BCS bowl game.
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24. Penn State Nittany Lions

Penn State's five senior captains vow the off-field problems that plagued the Nittany Lions before the 2007 season are a thing of the past. During a news conference in Happy Valley earlier this month, senior linebacker Sean Lee told reporters, "If you want to be on this team, you have to be with us. If not, get out." One thing that won't go away: speculation about 81-year-old coach Joe Paterno's future at Penn State.
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25. Notre Dame Fighting Irish

Athletic director Kevin White leaving Notre Dame for Duke might have been a sign of impending doom for the Fighting Irish, but NBC thought enough of their future to renew its TV contract another five years. Notre Dame returns 17 starters, including quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The Irish schedule includes four home games in the first five weeks of the season, and Charlie Weis might have the right mix to get Notre Dame back into a bowl game.
 

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I'm not quite as high on Texas Tech as I was because of this very reason of their RB issues..Kobey Lewis is in trouble, and Shannon Woods has been in Leach's doghouse since last season..This offense operates alot better when they have a great RB who can both block for Harrell and catch passes out of the backfield..Tauren Henderson was their last great back. I don't see anybody that is nearly this good on the team right now.
 

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Putting Notre Dame there isn't crazy. They should go at least 8-4 this season. I would put USC at the top though.
 

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I would also put Wisconsin and Penn St a bit higher and LSU, Tennessee, and Texas Tech a little lower.
 

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BYU is ranked too high. For a non-BCS team to be ranked in the top 15, they almost have to be undefeated going into their postseason bowl game. BYU will not be undefeated at the end of their regular season. I think they could have at least two losses and maybe even more. It all depends on how quickly and efficiently the new defensive backs grow up.

I think they get beat at Washington the second game of the season and at Utah the last game of the season.
 

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BYU is ranked too high. For a non-BCS team to be ranked in the top 15, they almost have to be undefeated going into their postseason bowl game. BYU will not be undefeated at the end of their regular season. I think they could have at least two losses and maybe even more. It all depends on how quickly and efficiently the new defensive backs grow up.

I think they get beat at Washington the second game of the season and at Utah the last game of the season.

Most of what I've read are from people hopping on the BYU bandwagon. They are the class of the MWC this season... supposedly in line for a BCS spot. It would take an undefeated season for them to get in. One thing you can count on is some beef up front with this team. They are explosive. I don't know why they fell apart in a couple of games last year but they came together in the end. Now they are back mostly in one piece save for a few holes to fill... just a few. Their defense is pretty solid. But, you might be going out on a limb with those 2 predicted losses however I'd sorta like to see Ty Willingham prevail so I shouldn't comment. Just being a bit realistic.
 

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I think Utah has a very good chance to win the MWC this year...Plus they get BYU at home.
 

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Most of what I've read are from people hopping on the BYU bandwagon. They are the class of the MWC this season... supposedly in line for a BCS spot. It would take an undefeated season for them to get in. One thing you can count on is some beef up front with this team. They are explosive. I don't know why they fell apart in a couple of games last year but they came together in the end. Now they are back mostly in one piece save for a few holes to fill... just a few. Their defense is pretty solid. But, you might be going out on a limb with those 2 predicted losses however I'd sorta like to see Ty Willingham prevail so I shouldn't comment. Just being a bit realistic.

Conan, my concern for BYU this season is their defense. Now last season, they brought back only 6 on defense and Mendenhall did a pretty good job of building a solid defense. However, he did it with mostly Jrs and Seniors. This year, he has to fill 8 holes -- including his entire secondary! It is actually projected that two of the starters will be redshirt freshmen! This defense is not very experienced this year at all and I can't help bu think that it will cause them to slip in a few games this season.
 

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Conan, my concern for BYU this season is their defense. Now last season, they brought back only 6 on defense and Mendenhall did a pretty good job of building a solid defense. However, he did it with mostly Jrs and Seniors. This year, he has to fill 8 holes -- including his entire secondary! It is actually projected that two of the starters will be redshirt freshmen! This defense is not very experienced this year at all and I can't help bu think that it will cause them to slip in a few games this season.

I guess you gotta look at who they play and when. UW may not have the guns to matter early in the year and it could play out as a simple matter of containing Locker. But, later on in the year when they play Utah, their defense will have paid for a little experience, and with some coaching they should be better. We'll see who's healthy at the time too. Who's got depth on the bench and how good are they?

I think they've got the guns on offense to get there. Look at Hawaii's defense last year and where that school's offense got them. It might not be good enough to win the big games or it might, but it sure packs in the fans and gets a lot of attention.

Aside from running the table, it depends on how good the top 10 teams are this year to determine if BYU belongs in that group... or just in the top 25. I think their position puts them exactly where they belong, just outside the BCS bowl picture. Now it's up to them to get in or not. Seems fair enough to me.
 

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I think LSU might be a bit underrated here...I'm not hearing their name mentioned in their conference with the likes of Florida, Georgia and Auburn...But does anybody see the similarities between LSU this year and Ohio State from last season? Ohio State lost to Florida the year before and had only 11 starters returning and weren't ranked in many preseason top 10's. LSU has 12 starters back including the bulk of their offense and aren't in many top 10's. If Perrilioux doesn't turn out to be as big of a loss as everybody thinks, this team could upset the apple cart. Looking at the Tigers schedule where they have to go to Auburn and Florida, it looks tough..But if you looked at OSU's schedule from last year where they had to travel to Penn State and Michigan with a young team, you would have probably thought the same thing..Plus, even though they have a tough schedule, LSU will have 2 weeks to prepare for Florida..Florida will have to play the week before at Arkansas..And then they play North Texas the week before Auburn..Auburn has to play at Miss.St. the week before..So even though they're on the road in those games, LSU should be very well prepared without having to get up for another SEC opponent 2 weeks in a row. After seeing what I saw last season, nothing would surprise me this year...And remember, LSU doesn't rebuild, they reload..As a person and coach I hate Miles..But as an underdog he can be a pretty dangerous coach because of his willingness to gamble in big games. I'm betting they don't lose to both Florida and Auburn. I can see a real close dogfight this season to win the SEC..There's alot of parity between the top 4 teams in that conference..
 

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Wow Georgia #1? I dont know crap bout em but Id have to say that doesnt last too long.
 

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I think LSU might be a bit underrated here...I'm not hearing their name mentioned in their conference with the likes of Florida, Georgia and Auburn...But does anybody see the similarities between LSU this year and Ohio State from last season? Ohio State lost to Florida the year before and had only 11 starters returning and weren't ranked in many preseason top 10's. LSU has 12 starters back including the bulk of their offense and aren't in many top 10's. If Perrilioux doesn't turn out to be as big of a loss as everybody thinks, this team could upset the apple cart. Looking at the Tigers schedule where they have to go to Auburn and Florida, it looks tough..But if you looked at OSU's schedule from last year where they had to travel to Penn State and Michigan with a young team, you would have probably thought the same thing..Plus, even though they have a tough schedule, LSU will have 2 weeks to prepare for Florida..Florida will have to play the week before at Arkansas..And then they play North Texas the week before Auburn..Auburn has to play at Miss.St. the week before..So even though they're on the road in those games, LSU should be very well prepared without having to get up for another SEC opponent 2 weeks in a row. After seeing what I saw last season, nothing would surprise me this year...And remember, LSU doesn't rebuild, they reload..As a person and coach I hate Miles..But as an underdog he can be a pretty dangerous coach because of his willingness to gamble in big games. I'm betting they don't lose to both Florida and Auburn. I can see a real close dogfight this season to win the SEC..There's alot of parity between the top 4 teams in that conference..

Actually, no, I don't see the similarities between them and Ohio State. As I have researched LSU this year, I have thought of a similarity with a past team though . . . . . . . . the 2005 Sooners. Remember whenever we lost all the key players off the team in 2004 and everyone was shouting, "We're reloading in 2005?" You also remember how 2005 turned out -- 8-4 -- respectable for most teams but not for a Sooner team. The only distinct difference is that LSU has more returning starters on their offensive line than what we had in 2005. Our young and inexperienced offensive line hurt us that year. That and figuring out who was going to struggle as the new QB for the season.

LSU lost some studs off last year's team, GS, and the SEC is not any easier this year.
 

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Actually, no, I don't see the similarities between them and Ohio State. As I have researched LSU this year, I have thought of a similarity with a past team though . . . . . . . . the 2005 Sooners. Remember whenever we lost all the key players off the team in 2004 and everyone was shouting, "We're reloading in 2005?" You also remember how 2005 turned out -- 8-4 -- respectable for most teams but not for a Sooner team. The only distinct difference is that LSU has more returning starters on their offensive line than what we had in 2005. Our young and inexperienced offensive line hurt us that year. That and figuring out who was going to struggle as the new QB for the season.

LSU lost some studs off last year's team, GS, and the SEC is not any easier this year.
BS...Many people don't remember that the biggest problem OU had in 2005 was some devastating injuries before the season even started..Including to Adrian Peterson with a high ankle sprain....It took OU several games with the coaches mixing and matching lineups before OU could get going..But after losing to Texas, OU really took off that year...LSU isn't in nearly as bad of shape as OU was that year...They'll still have two of the best lines in the country on both sides of the ball. And with the exception of QB, I see absolutely no weaknesses on their offense..The only thing that might, and I mean might let them down is their pass defense..But I'm predicting that their offense will be better this year than they were last..Outside of maybe Florida, I think this is the most dangerous team in the SEC because of the perception of them being down..I don't see this team being that down.
 

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I understand what you're trying to say, but we'll have to agree to disagree on the possibilities. LSU basically lost two starting QBs, Doucet, Steltz, Highsmith, Dorcey and the one I think may hurt worse than all of them was Hester. Hester was more than just a RB, he was a RB who had heart.

These guys will be very difficult to simply replace and contend for another National Championship. I just don't see it happening, especially in the SEC this year where there may be more parity than any other conference other than the Big East.
 

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It does tend to help LSU that they only have 4 road games this season though. How the hell does that happen anyway?
 

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I understand what you're trying to say, but we'll have to agree to disagree on the possibilities. LSU basically lost two starting QBs, Doucet, Steltz, Highsmith, Dorcey and the one I think may hurt worse than all of them was Hester. Hester was more than just a RB, he was a RB who had heart.

These guys will be very difficult to simply replace and contend for another National Championship. I just don't see it happening, especially in the SEC this year where there may be more parity than any other conference other than the Big East.
I know what your saying about having to do all of this in the SEC...Keep in mind that 1 or 2 losses in the SEC might still keep you in the top ten (LSU, Georgia last season). In some ways LSU is better off than what OSU was last year..OSU had only 5 seniors returning after having 17 the year before..They were perceived as having a weak defensive line and some very young unproven players on offense..And both of the those weaknesses were a little overblown by their critics. They were also picked no better than third in their own conference. Miles is also starting at least 15 junior and seniors mixed in with the youngsters..And this team had 5 blowouts last seasons..Many of these players have seen alot of playing time..BS...I just think this could be a case of underestimation of LSU..Not necessairly that they are a big threat to get to the BCS title game..But within their conference, and the way their schdule is set up, they'll be a dangerous team..And I have a feeling they'll have a say in who wins that conference by who they knock off. I've learned over the years not to underestimate a team who won the NC the year before..There's almost always enough remnants of a past champion left over to make these teams fall less than people perceive..Especially when they're underestimated in the polls.
 

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Wow Georgia #1? I dont know crap bout em but Id have to say that doesnt last too long.

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They have only won their last 7 games in a row (which include 4 ranked teams). Absolutely demolished then undefeated Hawaii 41-10 in Sugar Bowl and finished #2. Have a matured Matthew Stafford and Heisman candidate Knowshon Moreno (which might not even be the most talented rb they have!). Incredible incoming recruiting class, and great talent on both sides of the ball.

The schedule is the only thing working against them..early in the season they play @Arizona State (also play Spurrier @South Carolina). Then later in the season they have a 5 game stretch of @LSU, Florida (neutral), @Kentucky,@Auburn, and Georgia Tech. Alabama (Saban) and Tennessee (Fulmer) at home will not be walks in the park either.

They should up in the NC game with one loss or even two with that kind of schedule.
 

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correct me if I'm wrong but looks like UGA will face 6 coaches that have won national titles? scheisse
 

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I think Washington starts the season 2-0 with wins at Oregon and home against BYU. That shot put them in the top 25. Jake Locker is going to put up huge numbers this year.
 

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