Are you tired of getting TIMED OUT when you are on the computer making bets on an offshore account? Read Stephen Nover's article which appears on the RX home page - www.theprescription.com
Honestly? No. What annoys me are sites where, if you go into the 'Straight Bets' feature, you can only enter the amount you want to win - at those sites, if you want to enter the risk amount, you have to go through their 'Buy Points' option which allows you to enter either amount - just don't buy points. Remembering which site does that is a royal pain in the ass, because usually I only realize it once I'm placing the wager, and I have to back out and go into the other option to do it. Worse, not every site has the 'Buy Points' feature, so I can't just automatically go in that way. One of these days I'll make a damn list of 'em but that's all I need is more clutter on my desktop.
Jazz, then you have to fall into the recreational bettor category if you're not pissed by books timing out!!
If you spent a couple of hours a day online during the week and more on the weekned, then YOU would be pissed at being timed out!!!
I wish Stephen would have asked the books like WSEX, Olympic, Bowmans and Sportsbook.com why they feel 'not' timing out a player is to their best interest.....
Then maybe some of the others might get off this silly 7 minute time-out funtion!!
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If you spent a couple of hours a day online during the week and more on the weekned, then YOU would be pissed at being timed out!!!
I wish Stephen would have asked the books like WSEX, Olympic, Bowmans and Sportsbook.com why they feel 'not' timing out a player is to their best interest.....
Then maybe some of the others might get off this silly 7 minute time-out funtion!!
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Honestly? No. What annoys me are sites where, if you go into the 'Straight Bets' feature, you can only enter the amount you want to _win_ - at those sites, if you want to enter the _risk_ amount, you have to go through their 'Buy Points' option which allows you to enter either amount - just don't buy points. Remembering which site does that is a royal pain in the ass, because usually I only realize it once I'm placing the wager, and I have to back out and go into the other option to do it. Worse, not every site has the 'Buy Points' feature, so I can't just automatically go in that way. One of these days I'll make a damn list of 'em but that's all I need is more clutter on my desktop.
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I agree, so far I think 5 dimes is the only book I've found with this "feature". Didn't know about the buy points, I always back out and put in how much I want to win.
That's a really stupid default anyway since I imagine 99% of bettors, including me, think about how much they want to bet.
Honestly? No. What annoys me are sites where, if you go into the 'Straight Bets' feature, you can only enter the amount you want to _win_ - at those sites, if you want to enter the _risk_ amount, you have to go through their 'Buy Points' option which allows you to enter either amount - just don't buy points. Remembering which site does that is a royal pain in the ass, because usually I only realize it once I'm placing the wager, and I have to back out and go into the other option to do it. Worse, not every site has the 'Buy Points' feature, so I can't just automatically go in that way. One of these days I'll make a damn list of 'em but that's all I need is more clutter on my desktop.
I agree, so far I think 5 dimes is the only book I've found with this "feature". Didn't know about the buy points, I always back out and put in how much I want to win.
That's a really stupid default anyway since I imagine 99% of bettors, including me, think about how much they want to bet.
Thanks for the feedback so far. Are their any other posters who would like to comment on Nover's story on the home page. www.theprescription.com
I have long been a timeout hater. Recently It was explained to me that books who do not timeout are leaving themselves open for big risk. I thought on this and tried to look at the big picture. I have come to realize that the books are using timeouts to reduce their risk of heavy exposure on the moves. If the book is doing this to make their product safer, then by all means, I can deal with that.
Never thought I woud see it that way, but I have to be fair about it. It is better than the book leaving themselves open for troubles and possible financial difficulty.
Never thought I woud see it that way, but I have to be fair about it. It is better than the book leaving themselves open for troubles and possible financial difficulty.
I programmed a sportbook system. I can tell you that, as a programmer, I was completely in favor of timeouts. I thought the timeouts should be approximately 10 minutes (though on request I had extended it to 15 or 20 in some cases).
This system was WEB/HTML based (not a downloaded program). For a web system, unless the player logs outs, the book has NO way to know if the player has finished or shut off his computer. 10 minutes of idle time is pretty standard for most applications to assume the user has walked away.
And, yes, it is a deterent to the wiseguys picking you off. The design of online system is modeled on this chain of events:
1) Player logs in
2) Player checks lines
3) Player bets everything he likes
4) Player either logs off or refreshes the screen if he is interested in making more bets.
A player hanging around to catch a DonBest line move and bet it with in the 5-10 seconds it may take a clerk to notice the same move is NOT a design feature that anyone purposely creates for a sportsbook. Either the player is actively engaged in surfing the site and checking lines, or the player is considered logged out.
That said, we did have a one-button quick relogin feature to make a timeout less painful.
It is MY position that timeouts longer that 10 minutes don't help the book and are not a hinderance to normal play.
If you were logged into a casino instead of a sportsbook, 10-minutes of idle time would be a strong indication to the computer you are done.
This system was WEB/HTML based (not a downloaded program). For a web system, unless the player logs outs, the book has NO way to know if the player has finished or shut off his computer. 10 minutes of idle time is pretty standard for most applications to assume the user has walked away.
And, yes, it is a deterent to the wiseguys picking you off. The design of online system is modeled on this chain of events:
1) Player logs in
2) Player checks lines
3) Player bets everything he likes
4) Player either logs off or refreshes the screen if he is interested in making more bets.
A player hanging around to catch a DonBest line move and bet it with in the 5-10 seconds it may take a clerk to notice the same move is NOT a design feature that anyone purposely creates for a sportsbook. Either the player is actively engaged in surfing the site and checking lines, or the player is considered logged out.
That said, we did have a one-button quick relogin feature to make a timeout less painful.
It is MY position that timeouts longer that 10 minutes don't help the book and are not a hinderance to normal play.
If you were logged into a casino instead of a sportsbook, 10-minutes of idle time would be a strong indication to the computer you are done.
Java, by chance did you so some work for Bluegrass?
I've had accounts damn near everywhere and they are the only book with a timer that I've seen with the "one-button quick relogin feature."
General, if a book believes they are at risk then 'said' book should just lower their online limits!!!
Just because a reasonable explanation was brought to you attention it still doesn't make using a timer the right way to go.
There must be a reason why the BEST and the BIGGEST do NOT time-out their players!!
Jazz, I had some extra Neteller money today to send to some book. After pondering some of the new books and a couple I haven't played at, I decided to re-up at WSEX.
And the primary reason was because they do NOT time out their customers!!
As to your "win" "risk" pet peeve...
Bowmans has that feature where you can imput either the "win or the "risk."
Oh and Bowmans doesn't time out their customers either!!!
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I've had accounts damn near everywhere and they are the only book with a timer that I've seen with the "one-button quick relogin feature."
General, if a book believes they are at risk then 'said' book should just lower their online limits!!!
Just because a reasonable explanation was brought to you attention it still doesn't make using a timer the right way to go.
There must be a reason why the BEST and the BIGGEST do NOT time-out their players!!
Jazz, I had some extra Neteller money today to send to some book. After pondering some of the new books and a couple I haven't played at, I decided to re-up at WSEX.
And the primary reason was because they do NOT time out their customers!!
As to your "win" "risk" pet peeve...
Bowmans has that feature where you can imput either the "win or the "risk."
Oh and Bowmans doesn't time out their customers either!!!
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