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Now we have to immortalize what he says along with what he does. In fact, if properly interpreted, he does what he says. His teammates call him a prophet. Let's take a look at what he said and what he didn't say and maybe what he could have said differently.
When you declare that no player in the entire country will play harder than he will play what does that imply. That no player in the country can match his intensity. What does he think the Mississippi players did on the very day he uttered those words? Is he implying that he did not try as hard as he could or that he did and the rest of the team didn't. He then says he will push the rest of the team for the rest of the season. Well do they need his guidance or approval or is that what coaches are there for.
He goes on to say "you will never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season". Does that imply no other team is capable of playing as hard. Playing hard never insures winning. What I think gets lost here is that he got his feelings hurt because he (and the rest of the team lost).
Not only did they lose but they got beat by a team that was not supposed to beat them. Now here is the most important thing that I do not see immortalized, words of praise for the other guys (Mississippi) for playing harder than Florida did on that given day. When you lose you should show some symblance of humility and in some way pay homage to the team that beat you. I think it was all about not winning, not how hard they played. I don't think Florida rolled over and played dead on that given day. If you think about it, to have words immortalized and that were inspired because you lost and maybe let yourself and your fans down is one thing. I say it is all about winning (or not winning) and to immortalize those words and post them as a memorial is somewhat shallow and self serving. I say the team would have played on with or without his grand standing statement. It is almost like the immortalized words of the Terminator, "I will be back". I know, I am from Oklahoma. You can say this is sour grapes or whatever. I guarantee you one thing Bradford won the Heisman and he is a very humble guy. He would have never uttered the words spoken by Tebow that day much less allowed them to be put on a plaque. It is funny how sometimes the quiet guys can still get it done without the limelight and the attention. It is amazing how players all over the country who play on less talented teams than Florida play their guts out every week knowing they will probably lose anyway. That is what I admire. Guys like the players at the Academies who will playing football this year and fighting for our Country next year. Please, can we just keep this all in perspective. This is not a Tebow bash, but it is directed at anyone who thinks that winning a national championship is a direct result of saying the "magic" words.
 

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And furthermore.....it is kind of like saying "remember the Alamo" a year later. What kills me more than anything is that in this day and age when you can't have the ten commandments on a plague at a courthouse, you can post something like this for public display on a public building. He ends by saying "God Bless". And that is what gets me. He turned something that could have been said short and to the point and turned it into a sermon or some kind of personal testimony. He could have said, "Mississippi deserves all the credit due them. We will try harder to prevent this from hapenning again." Would they post that up for public display. I don't think so. No matter how fervent his word or his intentions they are the words of someone who just lost a football game. Now let me reinforce that by saying, all he did was just lose a football game. No matter how the people in Florida feel, no matter how prophetic they think those immortal words were, Florida won because of many factors. Maybe losing made them a better or more motivated team. You can learn from defeat and not all teams are successful but they keep playing, keep competing. That is what college athletics is all about. Yes, winners get the accolades, in fact deserve the accolades that go along with championships. I just want everyone to know that I like Tebow and think he is a great player, some say maybe the greatest college player ever. As far as that goes my opinion does not matter and that will always be up for discussion. All I am saying is that putting those words on a plaque for public display is right up there as one of the cheesiest gestures I have ever seen. I guess the people in Florida don't care what I or anyone outside of Florida thinks about it. I guess it is justified in their minds. But I think it sends a bad signal and it's importance is vastly exaggerated. Again, Florida won it all and power to them. But this and other things that Floridians have done and said since winning it has demeaned the accomplishments of some very fine athletes. I wish Tim Tebow the best, this is not all his fault. I believe he spoke from the heart and I also believe he meant every word he uttered. I just don't think what he said was as significant as it is getting credit for.
 

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I guess Notre Dame should forget all of their history and forget the "win one for the Gipper" story.

If you "hate" Florida....or dislike the Gators....or whatever hard-on you may have for UF, get in line. You aren't the first and you damn sure aren't the last!

The jealousy and hatred towards a kid like Tim Tebow is disgusting. Spin it any way you like, the kid is one of a kind......
 

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Fact of the matter is that he's the most special player I've ever seen on the college level. And he's as good a leader as well. Did his words have an effect? Of course they did. The whole team played like they were playing their last game every week, and they completely dominated.

The team came out unfocused against Mississippi, and it didn't happen again. He didn't say that others weren't capable of working as hard. He just declared publicly that he and the team were going to give a maximum effort every day the rest of the way. And then he and the team went out and backed it up.
 

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they still talking about this in oklahoma?

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Fact of the matter is that he's the most special player I've ever seen on the college level. And he's as good a leader as well. Did his words have an effect? Of course they did. The whole team played like they were playing their last game every week, and they completely dominated.

The team came out unfocused against Mississippi, and it didn't happen again. He didn't say that others weren't capable of working as hard. He just declared publicly that he and the team were going to give a maximum effort every day the rest of the way. And then he and the team went out and backed it up.

You are missing the point. He did not give Mississippi their due. It was more about what Miss. did not what Florida didn't do. With all the talent they had it probably happens with or without the grandstand speech. If you don't get it you never will.
 

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Romanowsky: No I didn't even remember that particular play. Thanks for putting it on though. I can assure you that I have never heard anyone in Oklahoma run down or demean Florida about anything concerning that game. That was not our first Rodeo although we have been slow out of the shoot lately. What I am saying does not reflect any kind of general feeling that reflects Oklahoma as a whole. Just me. I have a problem with the way people in florida have cannonized Tebow. I have no problems with Tebow really unless he really starts to believe everything he hears. I am more of a fan of guys from Notre Dame named Rudy. I don't think God is concerned with winning or losing. Success is something you can either handle or not. When everyone is kissing your ass it is pretty easy to handle. It is about the people in Florida more than anything else.
 

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I can see where this thread could go in a different direction than I originally had in mind. I think that Urban Meyer wants another championship so badly that he went to the same old well again. Kind of like beating a dead horse but with the addition of nailing it on the wall for all to see. Could he have waited until next year when Tebow is gone and make it part of their legacy? Yes he could have. Why didn't he? Well one reason is that they don't play Mississippi again this year. He has great talent, depth, Tebow back, yet he had to go the cheesy route and put in on the wall (of shame). Yes, shame on you Urban. Some people don't think outside of the box. Urban can't think outside of Florida. He is going to ride this one into the ground. And Tebow, a great athlete and an exeplary kid in general, is his redeeming out. You can not say anything that is not positive if not reverant about Tebow without raising the wrath of all of Florida. If Florida does not repeat, and they are better equipped to do it this year than last, what does that do to the legacy. If they lose this year does the plaque come down. If they win again this year does the plaque get doubled in size or put on a billboard beside the stadium.
Cheesy. And believe me I know all about cheesy. My mancave is full of Coca Cola stuff and the word cheesy can be heard in there quite often.
But you know what it is my room. Is that how Urban Meyer feels, is he doing it just because he can and what is his real motivation. Yes, cheesy is the word.
 

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I guess Notre Dame should forget all of their history and forget the "win one for the Gipper" story.

If you "hate" Florida....or dislike the Gators....or whatever hard-on you may have for UF, get in line. You aren't the first and you damn sure aren't the last!

The jealousy and hatred towards a kid like Tim Tebow is disgusting. Spin it any way you like, the kid is one of a kind......

If you think I have any jealousy towards Florida or Tim Tebow then you are reading something into this that I have not stated. No jealousy. No hatred. The Tebow thing does stick in my craw because I think he is being exploited and at some time he may start to believe what is said and written about him. Like I said I relate more to the stories about the Rudy's of the world who put it all on the line with no expectations. Urban Meyer has a built in shield and not to have at least waited until Tebow left to do what he did shows a lack of class. Like I said, if they played Mississippi this year he would not have done that. Not jealousy, not hatred, just my opinion. I know there is an old saying that opinions are just like assholes, everyone has one. I realize I may appear to be an asshole, simply for voicing my opinion. I know I am being judgemental so you have the right to do the same to me. No hard feelings on my part.
 

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I have to agree with Russ on this one.

So because Army sucks, does that mean their players don't play as hard as Tebow and his teammates. Had Florida lost to OU, would that make his hard work null and void and impy they didn't play hard?
 

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Russ,

The "Tebow's words" are the last portion of the press conference. He spoke for quite a while before he made his ending statement. So he DID "give Mississippi" their due (btw, in the south, we call their school "Ole Miss").

Bigten, Did Army win the National Championship? I hear players say all the time (Tebow or the woman's point guard at Alcorn State), "I want to thank God for allowing us to win and play well today....." type of statements. Does that mean God wanted the other team to lose? If you are not a religious person I don't expect you or any other Athiest out there to understand.......
 

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Russ,

The "Tebow's words" are the last portion of the press conference. He spoke for quite a while before he made his ending statement. So he DID "give Mississippi" their due (btw, in the south, we call their school "Ole Miss").

Bigten, Did Army win the National Championship? I hear players say all the time (Tebow or the woman's point guard at Alcorn State), "I want to thank God for allowing us to win and play well today....." type of statements. Does that mean God wanted the other team to lose? If you are not a religious person I don't expect you or any other Athiest out there to understand.......

Then they should put the whole speech up on the wall, not just the part that fits their needs. It does make me feel better to know he gave Ole Miss their thumbs up. I shouldn't let it bother me. I am a Libra and I only see black and white. It is a curse. I probably went too far. I will get over it. If I could just spend five minutes with....never mind.
 

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The Promise was from 2008.

2008 is over and that speech definitely had an impact on our season. Get over it.

Should we take Tebow's Heisman Trophy out of the trophy case because he is still playing too?

What about giving out rings and hanging banners for the 2008 NC and SEC Championship? Is it too early to immortalize those 2008 moments, too?

I think it's stupid that your school rides a little wagon around the field before the game but i'm not starting any thread about it because it's your school's business and tradition.

Besides, it's for the fans of Florida football and we all love it.


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The Promise was from 2008.

2008 is over and that speech definitely had an impact on our season. Get over it.

Should we take Tebow's Heisman Trophy out of the trophy case because he is still playing too?

What about giving out rings and hanging banners for the 2008 NC and SEC Championship? Is it too early to immortalize those 2008 moments, too?

I think it's stupid that your school rides a little wagon around the field before the game but i'm not starting any thread about it because it's your school's business and tradition.

Besides, it's for the fans of Florida football and we all love it.


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Fucking hilarious. :lol:
 

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The Promise was from 2008.

2008 is over and that speech definitely had an impact on our season. Get over it.

Should we take Tebow's Heisman Trophy out of the trophy case because he is still playing too?

What about giving out rings and hanging banners for the 2008 NC and SEC Championship? Is it too early to immortalize those 2008 moments, too?

I think it's stupid that your school rides a little wagon around the field before the game but i'm not starting any thread about it because it's your school's business and tradition.

Besides, it's for the fans of Florida football and we all love it.


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I may burn in hell for saying this but....

Sorry but to me this is a bit over the line. Maybe if there were some mountains in Florida, Tebow would have climbed to the top and come back with this message from God. That's how it strikes this average football fan. It's just a game and it's not larger than life, nor is Tebow, no matter how you spin it.

Anyone else would have said, hell, we're not perfect. We made a mistake and the University of Mississippi beat us on that day becaue they played a better football game than we did... and left it at that.

Why? Because that's all it was, not a trial by fire with a moral lesson in it or anything about the meaning of life the way it was blown up -- to become enshrined??? To me that's strictly a matter for things like the 10 Commandments or the Declaration of Independence. This is over the top... as if no one else has ever felt that way and expressed it in the past.... 1000s of times at least.
 

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The Promise was from 2008.

2008 is over and that speech definitely had an impact on our season. Get over it.

Should we take Tebow's Heisman Trophy out of the trophy case because he is still playing too?

What about giving out rings and hanging banners for the 2008 NC and SEC Championship? Is it too early to immortalize those 2008 moments, too?

I think it's stupid that your school rides a little wagon around the field before the game but i'm not starting any thread about it because it's your school's business and tradition.

Besides, it's for the fans of Florida football and we all love it.


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I am over "it". As I have explained above I just have a problem with "it" the same way as Conan and others. You know Tebow is not the only one still playing who has a Heisman in the Trophy Case. I left it alone until they put the plaque up. Maybe it is not Conan or me who has trouble leaving it" alone. Personally I think the little red wagon thing is stupid also. But they made us do away with "Lil" Red our Indian mascot because it was not politically corrrect. You guys can do what you want and you don't have to answer to anyone. But when you do something like this I think you should be ready for other opinions. I have already stated all I have to say about opinions up above. I personally don't think that even Coach Tiffin would have pulled this one out of the hat. Now he might have waited till next year and done it.
 

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Oh, and one last thing I've not expressed here yet.

It's a continuation of Florida's season after their loss to ole Miss right up to the national championship game. They were a great team, great players and a hell of a good coach. Were they clearly better than Oklahoma? Yes, enough to pull out the win but not better enough to run away from the Sooners because they are not miles better than them. I'd say out of 10 games, Florida would win maybe 6 times.

That's my take on the two of them. But did Tebow and the Gators win in such a fashion that deserved labeling them a dominant champion? Nope, especially with the cake OOC schedule they play year after year. The Sooners nearly had them near the end of the game. That's what I remember -- and in my mind, it serves to water down the greatness of that victory to a point.

If they had beaten Oklahoma the way USC beat Penn this past bowl season, I'd say Florida was the best team in the country hands down. But they didn't. Usually the team that goes undefeated deserves the distinction of being called a national champion but it didn't turn out that way this last year... How can the BCS allow that question to remain unanswered? The system is tainted. IMHO, Florida was the beneficiary of that this past year. But yes, they are the BCS champs because they did recover from their loss to Mississipppi and then ran the table. Nothing more. We'll see what gives this season.
 

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Stop hating. Gators kicked ass, yes they lost that game but they dominated every single team they played after that. Every program wishes they had a guy like Tebow on their team, can´t say enough about this guy.

And guess what, 2009 looking real good for the Gators.

russy is a bit sad his Sooners lost. Get over it.
 

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Stop hating. Gators kicked ass, yes they lost that game but they dominated every single team they played after that. Every program wishes they had a guy like Tebow on their team, can´t say enough about this guy.

And guess what, 2009 looking real good for the Gators.

russy is a bit sad his Sooners lost. Get over it.

I guess if your team wins it is all roses, if your team loses it is all sour grapes. The trouble is you said it and you didn't even know it. You ass kissers "can't say enough about this guy". That is what is wrong. When is enough enough. Meyer decides to put the cheesy plaque on the wall during spring practice and while Tebow is still in school. He is now officially the cheese ball king. You and the ones like you don't understand that this is not a Tebow bashing. This is about the cheesy move and the never ending ass kissing that starts with guys like you and runs all the way to Meyer himself. I never said anything derogatory about Tebow or the Team. I am talking about Meyer and guys like you. You said every team wishes they had a guy like Tebow on their team. I would be willing to bet that most programs already have someone like him. They just don't get or probably even want the attention that you guys drape all over Tebow. Whatever he does, whatever he accomplishes, whatever success he has will be a result of his dedication and hard work. Everyone in the country, even dumbass OU fans, recognize his ability and his value to the team. What you don't realize is that many people see the Plague and the quote in an entirely different light than you guys do. I know your first reaction is to call it bashing, or jealousy, or hate and I cannot emphasize enough that that is not the deal. To many people outside of Florida the whole plaque scenario is just plain cheesy. As far as the Florida team goes, I wish them all the luck in the world the same as I wish all the teams (well maybe not Texas on one particular weekend). I knew that some people would take my remarks the wrong way. I knew some people would take my remarks personally or as a blasphemy toward Tebow. Wrong, wrong, wrong. God Bless!
 

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