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First is the fact that given the built-in media bias, complaints by the press about "mean" campaigning are a reliable sign to Republicans that their tactics are working. Democratic slurs of conservatives as liars, bigots, and warmongers, cruelly indifferent to the needs of the poor, are described as "spirited," "red-blooded," and proof that the speakers are tough enough to be leading the country. Republican attacks on liberals as arrogant, out-of-it, and too weak to be leading the country are--well, you know, mean.

Not to mention that most of these "savage" attacks consist of drawing attention to things said and done by the Democrats that the media would rather ignore: Michael Dukakis defending an insane furlough program for prisoners, John Kerry testifying to Congress that his own former shipmates were criminals, Dukakis looking goofy in a tank, that he climbed into of his own free volition, Kerry saying <table style="width: 3px; height: 272px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table> of himself that he had voted for Iraq war funding before voting against it, Obama condescending to Pennsylvania voters who supposedly cling to guns and God out of bitterness, Kerry windsurfing in shorts . . .. Embarrassing a Democrat with his own words and actions is just--sleazy. How low can you go?

Second is the fact that the press loved "the old McCain" of 2000 for only two reasons: He ran against George W. Bush, and he lost. The best Republican of all is one who nobly loses, which is what McCain looked like doing until he picked Sarah Palin, at which point most of the media exploded in fury. How dare he pick someone who might help him win? How dare he excite the public, when he was supposed to be boring? How dare he raise up a rival to The One? Face it:

The reason they loved McCain in 2000 was that his zingers were aimed at Republicans and social conservatives who were not then his constituents. But had he made it into the general, and been aiming his fire at Al Gore and at the pro-choice extremists, the press's ardor for him would have died eight years earlier, and they would have denounced him as . . . mean.

McCain hasn't changed: He was always a maverick, but a center-right maverick, a Republican maverick, an American exceptionalist, a security hawk, and a social traditionalist. Against George W. Bush and others, his digressions from dogma stood out more in contrast, but against a Democrat such as Barack Obama, he stands out as the center-right hawk that he is. The press wanted him to fight against other Republicans and to lose, or, barring that, to lose to a Democrat. He isn't complying. That's their problem, not his.
 

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POW. POW. Sexism. POW. Sexism. Media Bias. Sexism. POW. Media Bias. Sexism. POW. POW.

The whining is coming from the right.
 

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Are we to believe that you wrote this yourself? Or is this just another case of you copying and pasting another's words without acknowledging the source?
 

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Are we to believe that you wrote this yourself? Or is this just another case of you copying and pasting another's words without acknowledging the source?

I know you aimed your comment at Willie, but curiosity compels me to ask why you care? Or is this another inane attempt to change the focus of the debate. :finger:
 

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I know you aimed your comment at Willie, but curiosity compels me to ask why you care? Or is this another inane attempt to change the focus of the debate.

Just like you are curious as to my motives, I am curious if whether this was written by him or not. He has a history of occasionally not acknowledging the source and I think it may be because he's trying to hide who the actual writer is. If he didn't have that history, I wouldn't question it. I think whenever one copies and pastes, the protocol is to acknowledge the source (or at the very least not create confusion as to whose words they are).

My post was not an attempt to change the debate. If he says he wrote it, fine. If he didn't write it, I think we shouldn't be decieved.
 

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Are we to believe that you wrote this yourself? Or is this just another case of you copying and pasting another's words without acknowledging the source?

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what in the post is an indication I wrote it myself? the strange indentations where I deleted ads? the fact that I highlighted sentences? as opposed to simply emphasizing those points by letting them stand on their own as I would do.?

I don't need to plagiarize, that's what your VP nomination has made a career out of doing. :missingte:missingte:missingte:missingte

I happen to agree with this authors opinion. Since it is an opinion, citations are not necessary. Grow up, and search for a clue already.
 

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Are we to believe that you wrote this yourself? Or is this just another case of you copying and pasting another's words without acknowledging the source?



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what in the post is an indication I wrote it myself?

THERE YOU GO AGAIN- ASKING A QUESTION INSTEAD OF ANSWERING A QUESTION PUT TO YOU.

the strange indentations where I deleted ads? the fact that I highlighted sentences? as opposed to simply emphasizing those points by letting them stand on their own as I would do.?

OR AS THE REAL AUTHOR DID?

Forgive Me Not
McCain does not owe the press an apology.
by Noemie Emery
09/12/2008 2:35:00 PM
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HEADING THE LIST of a long, long, exceedingly long--we did say long, didn't we?--list of pundits, reporters, bloggers, and publications who have been suddenly been struck by a wave of nostalgia for the "old" John McCain, or the "real" John McCain, or the John McCain of 2000, Time's Joe Klein has been anticipating the apology McCain will make to him, once it is over, for the unworthy, nasty, disreputable, and really mean campaign he has run. Klein says he won't accept it, but he needn't worry. McCain, win or lose, will not make it, and there is no reason that he should.
First is the fact that given the built-in media bias, complaints by the press about "mean" campaigning are a reliable sign to Republicans that their tactics are working. Democratic slurs of conservatives as liars, bigots, and warmongers, cruelly indifferent to the needs of the poor, are described as "spirited," "red-blooded," and proof that the speakers are tough enough to be leading the country. Republican attacks on liberals as arrogant, out-of-it, and too weak to be leading the country are--well, you know, mean. Not to mention that most of these "savage" attacks consist of drawing attention to things said and done by the Democrats that the media would rather ignore: Michael Dukakis defending an insane furlough program for prisoners, John Kerry testifying to Congress that his own former shipmates were criminals, Dukakis looking goofy in a tank, that he climbed into of his own free volition, Kerry saying of himself that he had voted for Iraq war funding before voting against it, Obama condescending to Pennsylvania voters who supposedly cling to guns and God out of bitterness, Kerry windsurfing in shorts . . .. Embarrassing a Democrat with his own words and actions is just--sleazy. How low can you go?
Second is the fact that the press loved "the old McCain" of 2000 for only two reasons: He ran against George W. Bush, and he lost. The best Republican of all is one who nobly loses, which is what McCain looked like doing until he picked Sarah Palin, at which point most of the media exploded in fury. How dare he pick someone who might help him win? How dare he excite the public, when he was supposed to be boring? How dare he raise up a rival to The One? Face it: The reason they loved McCain in 2000 was that his zingers were aimed at Republicans and social conservatives who were not then his constituents. But had he made it into the general, and been aiming his fire at Al Gore and at the pro-choice extremists, the press's ardor for him would have died eight years earlier, and they would have denounced him as . . . mean. McCain hasn't changed: He was always a maverick, but a center-right maverick, a Republican maverick, an American exceptionalist, a security hawk, and a social traditionalist. Against George W. Bush and others, his digressions from dogma stood out more in contrast, but against a Democrat such as Barack Obama, he stands out as the center-right hawk that he is. The press wanted him to fight against other Republicans and to lose, or, barring that, to lose to a Democrat. He isn't complying. That's their problem, not his.
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I don't need to plagiarize


THEN WHY DID YOU?



, that's what your VP nomination has made a career out of doing.

:missingte:missingte:missingte:missingte

CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN- CLASSIC SPIN MANUVER

I happen to agree with this authors opinion.

SO WHAT? YOU LET PEOPLE THINK THESE ARE YOUR OPINIONS WHEN THEY ARE NOT. THAT IS PLAGERIZING. <TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 5747179" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>bblight</TD><TD class=alt2>:103631605 :toast:</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

THESE WORDS ARE NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE. THEY ARE NOT DESCRIBING SCIENTIFIC OR MATHEMATICAL FACTS AND PROCESSESS.

THEY ARE SOMEONE ELSES WAY OF SPEAKING FOR EFFECT AND ENTERTAINMENT WHICH THEY ARE PAID TO DO.




Since it is an opinion, citations are not necessary.


THATS THE LAMEST EXCUSE iVE EVER HEARD. OPINIONS BASED ON ORIGINAL IDEAS ARE EXACTLY WHY CITATIONS ARE NECESSARY.

Grow up, and search for a clue already.
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I know you aimed your comment at Willie, but curiosity compels me to ask why you care? Or is this another inane attempt to change the focus of the debate.
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Just like you are curious as to my motives, I am curious if whether this was written by him or not. He has a history of occasionally not acknowledging the source and I think it may be because he's trying to hide who the actual writer is.


NOW WHY WOULD WILLIE WANT TO DO THAT?
MAYBE BECAUSE ITS THE WEEKLY STANDARD A RAG OWNED BY RUPERT MURDOCH AND EDITORED BY WILLIAM KRISTOL OF PNAC SIGNER INFAMY- A STRICTLY NEOCONSERVATIVE PUBLICATION THATS PUSHED ON THE SHEEP LIKE WILLIE NOT FOR PROFIT BUT FOR PROPAGANDA.
HOW ELSE DO YOU EXPLAINED ITS CONTINUED EXISTENCE WHEN ITS A FACT THAT IT LOSES ONE MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR. THAT MEANS ITS TOILET PAPER YET SOMEONE KEEPS EATING THE LOSES SO THE WILLIES OF THIS COUNTRY CAN GET HIS TALKING POINTS TO ATTACK LIBERALS WITH.

NEOCON SCUM LIKE MURDOCH AND KRISTOL WOULD RATHER WILLIE NOT REVEAL THEM. PERHAPS THEY BELIEVE THEIR OUTRIGHT LIES ARE MORE PALATABLE THAT WAY...:nohead:
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what in the post is an indication I wrote it myself?


The fact that you don't cite where it came from. The typical protocol when copying and pasting is to cite the source. When you don't do that, the assumption is that the post was written by the person who posted it. Is that a hard concept to grasp?


I don't need to plagiarize, that's what your VP nomination has made a career out of doing.

Beside the fact that I don't have a VP nomination, copying and pasting someone else's writing and not acknowleging the source is the definition of plagarism.

I happen to agree with this authors opinion. Since it is an opinion, citations are not necessary. Grow up, and search for a clue already.

Do you need me to dig up posts where you ask that others use their own words instead of posting a video? If an opinion (or fact) is contained in a video, and someone shares that opinion, why do you take the position that videos are useless and not worth watching? IMO, you do that as a complete copout to avoid whatever the issue at hand is.

Anyone with an ounce of brain power can recognize how lame your excuses are. By not citing the author, you are allowing this to distract from the stuff you post. When you copy and paste, just include the link and it won't be an issue.

A month or so ago a thread died because I wouldn't continue the discussion unless you provided links for the things you copied and pasted. I'm sure ending that thead was fine with you since those copied texts were full of discredited talking points and revealing where they came from would only dig your hole deeper.
 

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Shorty, please do waste your time searching for a post where I asked someone to post a link for an opinionated piece.

Do you even understand the difference between facts, accusations & opinions?

I don't always provide a link, and I don't care if you don't like it either. If I provide facts to make my case or to dispel looney lefty lies, I'll provide a link when appropriate. If I provide a position based on someone else's professional or expert opinion, I'll provide a link.

The article in the OP is not based on unknown facts and it's not an expert opinion, so you can pound sand.

You bring so little to the table
 
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TR, analytical reasoning not a strong point for you, so just stay away from it. What you are good at is posting whacked out always a conspiracy bullshit, thus you are the defending champion of whacked out bullshit here at theRx.

Carry on
 

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I don't need to plagiarize


THEN WHY DID YOU?

Those questions which would have resulted in
an undesirable answer went unanswered:nohead:
NOW WHY WOULD WILLIE WANT TO DO THAT?
MAYBE BECAUSE ITS THE WEEKLY STANDARD A RAG OWNED BY RUPERT MURDOCH AND EDITORED BY WILLIAM KRISTOL OF PNAC SIGNER INFAMY- A STRICTLY NEOCONSERVATIVE PUBLICATION THATS PUSHED ON THE SHEEP LIKE WILLIE NOT FOR PROFIT BUT FOR PROPAGANDA.
HOW ELSE DO YOU EXPLAINED ITS CONTINUED EXISTENCE WHEN ITS A FACT THAT IT LOSES ONE MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR. THAT MEANS ITS TOILET PAPER YET SOMEONE KEEPS EATING THE LOSES SO THE WILLIES OF THIS COUNTRY CAN GET HIS TALKING POINTS TO ATTACK LIBERALS WITH.

NEOCON SCUM LIKE MURDOCH AND KRISTOL WOULD RATHER WILLIE NOT REVEAL THEM. PERHAPS THEY BELIEVE THEIR OUTRIGHT LIES ARE MORE PALATABLE THAT WAY...
 

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Willie - copying and pasting without naming the source is, as far as I know, a violation of copyrights.

But that's not the point here. Can't you see that you totally discredit yourself when simply copying opinion pieces without acknowledging the author? Firstly, it leads to the impression that you don't posted this to start a discussion about it but rather to show your own opinion which you had not been able to express in your own words, and secondly we have to assume that this article comes from a source that cannot be taken seriously because otherwise there'd be no reason to hide it.
 

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Copyrights, right!

I don't care how y'all think, I don't share your values and you can choose to ignore me, no problemo.

I'll be looking for pieces I can post without citing just to watch you spend time bashing me :103631605

Funny chit man :missingte:missingte:missingte:missingte
 

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Copyrights, right!
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Funny chit man :missingte:missingte:missingte:missingte

What's so funny about it? Of course no-one will sue over an article in an internet message board, but it's a fact that, at least where I live, a writer does own the rights for his articles, so you are not allowed to simply copy them without even citing the author. But of course neocons like you never care for any rules unless they are in your favour, right?

It's very interesting, however, that you responded to a side-issue I mentioned, but not my main points. As usual...
 

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I've already addressed your "other issues" when other people raised the same false issues. In summary, I disagree with the premise of your argument and any conclusion you reach.

But I will try again. I never took credit for writing the post, I never tried to conceal it was pasted (look at the indentations where ads were deleted), I would emphasize sentences I wanted to emphasize by allowing them to stand on their own, as opposed to being part of some other paragraph, I never ever write posts that long and it's not my writing style.

Just has importantly, I don't believe an opinionated piece requires links. When presenting facts taken from from a third party and /or presenting someone else's professional or expert opinion, I'll provide links "when" I deem it to be necessary or appropriate.

If you disagree with me, I really don't care, I'm not going to change a thing.
 

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As for my own words, I have been critical of media bias and hypocrisy hundreds of times, and this guy just puts a different twist on it.

Stick your red herrings where the sun don't shine, but your heads reside.
 

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