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New York Giants vs Carolina Panthers @ 8 Est FOX

I wagered under 35.5. I am a contrarian going against the move. Care to share your opinions?

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General:

Good luck on your play tonight. If the running games can't move and the ball ends up in the air, watch out for the new "no touching downfield" rule interpretation. Could impact the total.
 

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Good luck bigbet

Ted,

Me and a close friend were just discussing that.
 

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We had some discussion about this game the other day. I am playing against Eli Manning in the first quarter, counting on 1st string Panther defense. First quarter line from Olympic:

451 New York Giants -145
452 Carolina Panthers -½ +125

Lay the half take the quarter for 1st period on Panthers.

Best of luck, wil...
 

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Eli Manning will get his first start of the preseason against the Carolina Panthers this week. Too bad he doesn't get the Bengals defense.

In what will surely be a wakeup call for the rookie, the Panthers defense -- especially the defensive line -- is one of the best in the NFL. Combine that with the biggest question mark the Giants have -- their offensive line -- and Manning will take some hits.

It appears inevitable that not only will Manning play this season, it is my prediction he'll have more starts than Kurt Warner. The Giants have mortgaged their future by trading away three draft choices, including next year's No. 1. That kind of bounty means Manning will see significant playing time this year.

Anybody who has seen Manning at Giants practices quickly realizes he has all the physical skills of his older brother, Peyton. When listening to him during an interview, you are struck by his easy-going nature and maturity (heck, his nickname is Easy). If there were ever a player destined for greatness in the NFL, it is the purebred Eli Manning.

I completely understand why Kerry Collins forced himself out of the Giants organization. There is no way in the world Collins would want to subject himself to the constant battle of holding off the inevitable, but unfortunately for Warner, who is trying to resurrect his own career, he now has to fight that battle.

The insecurities that are present among players are what can tear a team apart, especially at quarterback. However, Warner had to know exactly why he was brought to New York. With his reputation and notoriety, the signing of Warner has quelled a veteran uprising within the locker room, at least for the time being. No matter how good Manning looks in practice, the veteran players know as soon as he lines up under center in a real game, the chances for short-term success during the rookie's first season at quarterback are dismal at best.

Players who are in their 30s and at the twilight of their career don't want to sit around waiting for a rookie quarterback to mature. The Giants have many prideful veterans who have been to the Super Bowl and realize how important Collins was to that success. After all, the whole objective of every team is to win the Super Bowl. With head coach Tom Coughlin's tough ways and the possibility of a rookie quarterback getting significant playing time, I can see a very difficult final six-to-eight weeks for the Giants.

Coughlin still needs another couple of years to be able to mold a franchise to his liking. But Giants fans and the New York media do not want to hear that. The good news is that as you look into the future, Manning should bring a significant presence at quarterback for the Giants for at least the next 10 years. Not many teams can say that.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7590106
 
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The Giants had zebras in back pocket last week getting 5 penalties for 40 yards while KC got flagged a incredible 19 times for 160 yards, many of those judgement calls. The first string D got torched, as KC scored 24 points in first half. Do not envision Dayne to surprise anyone here, and both Warner and Eli pretty much ineffective. Panthers working on 6 game preseason streak, ATS. Good chance of getting number 7 tonight as this Giant squad with tough Tom going to rebuild from scratch. Lay the chalk. I layed 3 early. Best Wishes...OF
 

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General, I'm following your play on the under...but I've already cashed the first quarter play that wil notes.

Since I don't get the game I'm watching Tiger Cats-Renegades (CFL)for notes.
 
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General, I owe you one for the WWTS Shaq trade. I love betting unders. However, one prerequisite is to have two good defenses. This Giants defense is a disaster. 6 out of 7 front seven new. Plus running a lot of new 3/4. I would bet team total against Giants, before I ever bet an under in one of their games. Not a good team, especially on D. Even Northcoast sports has them winning 3 games. Pats and Ravens are under teams. Best wishes General...OF
 

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Nice call Wilheim....

first qtr play-

Carolina had their way with the Giants...

Jake is the real deal!
 
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It will be a great game if score stays the same. 17-13. Or any Panther win by 4 through 10. Best Wishes...OF
 

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JMan:

4 is a push on the closing line, but many, including OF I believe, took the Panthers when they were -3.

OF:

Not sure I understand the 4 through 10 Panther win being of value.
 
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Score was 17-6 at the half. I took Giants pk ev 2nd half. So to hit them both I need Giants to win 2nd half, by 1-7, pk and 8 are rails. But Warner is just a useless religous zealot. I took Car -3 -1.15 on Monday. I also got Raiders pk. Like I said, I need Panthers to win by 4-10. Best Wishes...OF
 
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That worked out real well. Panthers for game, NY Giants 2nd half. Cigar, rubdown and jacuzzi. Best Wishes...OF

For Green Doberman I dropped the cognac.
 

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I posted the Raiders as my play for Saturday in the NFL Forum as well but the lowest I saw the opening line was -1. May I inquire when and where you caught them at a pick? If I'm missing an out somewhere, I'd appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks.
 

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