Three Baseball Trades Supposedly Just Occurred!

[Aquatic]

another excellent point and question ...what has been the least amount of games won to win a division?

The 1973 Mets won the East Division with a 82-79 record and went on to win the Pennant and then lose to those Swingin' A's in the Series.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=10>National League</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD>YEAR</TD><TD>TEAM</TD><TD>LG</TD><TD>DIV</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>PCT</TD><TD>GB</TD><TD>POS</TD><TD>WC</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>New York Mets</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>82</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>.509</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>St. Louis Cardinals</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>81</TD><TD align=right>81</TD><TD align=right>.500</TD><TD align=right>1.5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Pirates</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>80</TD><TD align=right>82</TD><TD align=right>.494</TD><TD align=right>2.5</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Montreal Expos</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>83</TD><TD align=right>.488</TD><TD align=right>3.5</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Chicago Cubs</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>77</TD><TD align=right>84</TD><TD align=right>.478</TD><TD align=right>5.0</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Philadelphia Phillies</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>71</TD><TD align=right>91</TD><TD align=right>.438</TD><TD align=right>11.5</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Journeyman]

I couldn't imagine Colorado ever playing a meanignful game in October...that is one messed up organization, Can anyone see this team ever making a WS?

Odds Colorado plays in a WS in the next 50 years

Yes +180
No -240

 

[Glaken]

Glaken

The 1987 Minnesota Twins (85 wins) .... home / road splits for the regular season were 56-25 (0.691 winning percentage) at home and 29-52 (0.358 winning percentage) away.

29-52 away and they were World Champions...nuts!

WOW!! What was team ERA break down for MLB that year?

 

[WCBias]

Huh?

Ponson in SD gives them another solid starter ... IMHO a well positioned move for the playoff race

Just what the padres needed, a starter with an ERA over 6.0. They can't win with their four current starters hovering in the 4.0 to 5.0 range.

Kevin Towers blows, every good deal he's made came after 10 bad ones. Nothing against Giles, but Jason Bay would be leading SD in HR's and BA if they never traded him. Oliver Perez would just be an added bonus.

 

[winkyduck]

If NEvin was traded, why is he playing for SD right now??

because - as i have been saying every since word was announced - phil nevin is NOT going to approve this trade and he will remain a Padre until the end of the season and his contract. he will play for another team in 2006 - NOT in 2005, though

 

[Glaken]

The 1973 Mets won the East Division with a 82-79 record and went on to win the Pennant and then lose to those Swingin' A's in the Series.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=10>National League</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD>YEAR</TD><TD>TEAM</TD><TD>LG</TD><TD>DIV</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>PCT</TD><TD>GB</TD><TD>POS</TD><TD>WC</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>New York Mets</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>82</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>.509</TD><TD align=right>--</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>St. Louis Cardinals</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>81</TD><TD align=right>81</TD><TD align=right>.500</TD><TD align=right>1.5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Pirates</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>80</TD><TD align=right>82</TD><TD align=right>.494</TD><TD align=right>2.5</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Montreal Expos</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right>83</TD><TD align=right>.488</TD><TD align=right>3.5</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Chicago Cubs</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>77</TD><TD align=right>84</TD><TD align=right>.478</TD><TD align=right>5.0</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1973</TD><TD>Philadelphia Phillies</TD><TD>NL</TD><TD>E</TD><TD align=right>71</TD><TD align=right>91</TD><TD align=right>.438</TD><TD align=right>11.5</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

LMAO ... I remember dat !! My Bicycle days ...

The A's Line-up ?

1st Gene Tenace?
2nd?
Short? Campaneras
3rd? Sal Bando
OF Reggie
Pitchers - Rollie, Vida ?

 

[ClipJoint]

I couldn't imagine Colorado ever playing a meanignful game in October...that is one messed up organization, Can anyone see this team ever making a WS?

Odds Colorado plays in a WS in the next 50 years

Yes +180
No -240

You never know...one thing I would love to see is for them to go out and stack their offense again like they did in their early years with Bichette, Walker, Castillo, etc.

I would LOVE to see them go and get a punch of power hitters nearing the end of their careers and just launch bombs. I still think that is the only way they can win there.

 

[Glaken]

You never know...one thing I would love to see is for them to go out and stack their offense again like they did in their early years with Bichette, Walker, Castillo, etc.

I would LOVE to see them go and get a punch of power hitters nearing the end of their careers and just launch bombs. I still think that is the only way they can win there.

Another cool stat that I read about was the list of pitchers that have thrown shutouts in Colorado ... I know Glavine did it twice...others?

 

[FairWarning]

I think Nomo threw a no-no there.

 

[Glaken]

I think Nomo threw a no-no there.

Crazy ! Nomo = No Mo money in the toilet for me...lol I can never get on the right side when he pitches.

 

[Kojak]

I got Rondell White trade off of espn forum boards for whoever asked.

 

[ClipJoint]

I got Rondell White trade off of espn forum boards for whoever asked.

I think someone must have been blowing smoke out their ass...I can't see how that would make any sense at all.

 

[Aquatic]

Rondell White trade?????????????

No mention on the Tigers post game radio show an hour ago or local news half hour updates. Nothing on ESPN news either so I think the forum board is just a rumour someone posted.

 

[Kojak]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player.jsp?player_id=407812This is the link off of the Tigers forum on the espn site.

 

[Kojak]

Correction. That link is only stats of Holliday. Anyway, here is the entire post.


<TABLE class="mb thread"><TBODY><TR><TD class=thread-head style="BACKGROUND: #00314b" colSpan=3>Tigers Aquire LF MATT HOLLIDAY</TD></TR><TR><TH class=thread-author>DetroitTiger...</TH><TH>Posted: Jul 23, 2005 09:33 AM</TH><TH class=thread-quote>[url="http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/post?reply=true&messageID=12067776&quote=true"]Quote</TH></TR><TR><TD>Posts: 54
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<TD class=thread-body colSpan=2>just reported on am 1270 the tigers have traded:
Rondell White to the Rockies for Matt Holliday.

here is his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player.jsp?player_id=407812

im glad we finally got our man

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Hope this helps.

 

[Aquatic]

White for Holliday only a joke post

I just looked at that link and the guy who posted it responds on his next post as saying it was a joke because he was bored.


<TABLE class="mb thread"><TBODY><TR><TD class=thread-head style="BACKGROUND: #00314b" colSpan=3>Re: Tigers Aquire LF MATT HOLLIDAY</TD></TR><TR><TH class=thread-author>DetroitTiger...</TH><TH>Posted: Jul 23, 2005 11:29 AM</TH><TH class=thread-quote>[url="http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/post?reply=true&messageID=12070383&quote=true"]Quote</TH></TR><TR><TD>Posts: 55
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<TD class=thread-body colSpan=2>this is a joke, duh. i was bored

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<TABLE class="mb thread"><TBODY><TR><TH class=thread-author>DetroitTiger...</TH><TH>Posted: Jul 23, 2005 09:33 AM</TH><TH class=thread-quote>[url="http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/post?reply=true&messageID=12067776&quote=true"]Quote</TH></TR><TR><TD>Posts: 55
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<TD class=thread-body colSpan=2>just reported on am 1270 the tigers have traded:
Rondell White to the Rockies for Matt Holliday.



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[royalfan]

Ponson in SD gives them another solid starter ... IMHO a well positioned move for the playoff race

Solid starter, are you kidding me? You are a brilliant guy, but off your rocker here.

 

[cutacrossshorty]

another excellent point and question ...what has been the least amount of games won to win a division?

Omitting strike shortened seasons, these were division winners with the fewest wins:

1973 NY Mets were 82-79
1984 KC Royals were 84-78
1987 MN Twins were 85-77

 

[Glaken]

Solid starter, are you kidding me? You are a brilliant guy, but off your rocker here.

LOL Royalfan ... I guess I meant "starter" ... truthfully I am clueless about his record this year and was basing my statement on previous years here say. And lets leave John Rocker out of this. :drink:

Take Care, G

 

[Glaken]

Omitting strike shortened seasons, these were division winners with the fewest wins:

1973 NY Mets were 82-79
1984 KC Royals were 84-78
1987 MN Twins were 85-77

Thanks Shorty .... still digesting these numbers ... especially that 1973 Mets number ... amazing.

G