Thoughts on Halladay as a DOG tomorrow?

[sherman]

See Pin has them at -101 right now....

vs the Red Sox...

thoughts?

 

[Halifax]

My thoughts are, that if you want some of that, get it at +105 at V-Wager.

 

[dmmd98]

One of the few teams that Halladay isn't lights out against is Boston

 

[sherman]

My thoughts are, that if you want some of that, get it at +105 at V-Wager.

 

[spreadbeater]

Forget the side, play the under. I am on it at under 9 -1.25.

 

[C-LO]

Def UNDER! Have no opinion on winner just me winning on under!

 

[Stickie]

Gotta keep in mind the Jays don't help the Doc out at all. They get him a couple runs at best. If Boston can get three runs they win this one.

 

[wanderer]

Boston will hit Halladay. IMO Boston is cheap here. Arroyo is capable of tossing a gem.

 

[wilheim]

Certainly is hard for me to bet against Halladay, he has been excellent of late:

W/L IP H R BB Ks
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2><TD>06/03</TD><TD>@OAK</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/08</TD><TD>@CHC</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/13</TD><TD>STL</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>9.0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/18</TD><TD>MIL</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/23</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8.0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/28</TD><TD>@TB</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>9.0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Arroyo has been eratic:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2><TD>06/01</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1.1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/04</TD><TD>ANA</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/10</TD><TD>@CHC</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.0</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/15</TD><TD>CIN</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/21</TD><TD>@CLE</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>06/27</TD><TD>CLE</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.2</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The game is essentially a pick em right now Bost -105 Tor -103 Pinn.



wil.

 

[VegasVic]

Look beyond those numbers with Arroyo wil. In his last five starts Arroyo has had only one poor effort, (6/10 @ ChiSox).

That last game against the Tribe was misleading if you take the numbers without consideration to how they were compiled. He served up a round the horn double play, (that would have ended the fourth inning deadlocked at 0-0), in which Bellhorn took his eye off the ball at second and allowed it to head off to Trot Nixon. Two runs in. Another run on a poor fielding effort by Miller at first led to the third run of the inning. In the seventh Nixon botched a catch that ended up as a two run homer. The problem with this game was not Arroyo but that the Sox couldn’t get to Millwood and only got three hits on the night.

In three games against Toronto this year Arroyo has a whip of 1.00, era of 2.37, and a average against of .236. Eric Hinske is the only Blue Jay with a lick of success against him, (.438 / 16 ab). Catalanotto, Hillenbrand, Hudson, Rios, and Wells have a combined average of .136, (8 for 59), with one homer against Arroyo.

Meanwhile against Halladay…..Damon, Nixon, Ortiz, Ramirez, and Varitek are batting .308, (69 for 224), and with nine homers, (Ortiz has five). Halladay has always had his share of difficulty against the Red Sox and with Boston’s strong home play I believe getting them at pick ‘em is the value.

Don’t forget this game has added meaning for Arroyo because with Schilling coming off the DL this could be his last start before being put in the bullpen. Jerry Remy is even saying that he should be considered to close some games.

I'm on the Sox at -104 and some more on the run line at +190.

 

[SPunlimited]

I'm taking Halladay and the Jays

Halladay is 11-4 and the Jays are 13-4 in his starts

Jays are 21-13 vs the AL east the Sox are only 16-17 vs the AL east

Jays are 7-3 vs Boston this season