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Maybe we can pay the Mexicans to build a wall on their Southern border

Call it foreign aide

Win win, although libtard nation will suddenly stop supporting "foreign aide", it's tradition
 

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Tell me exactly what an illegal did to you or your family where it's turned your world upside down.

I'm here in SoCal. Lived here for 47 years. Have a pretty big family and a huge network of friends and associates. Not one person I know has had their been mugged, assaulted, murdered, raped or ...look out, had their job taken from them.

Exactly what are you pussy's crying about?

Excellent points, C. I of course know quite a few people in my home state of Texas and literally zero express support for our federal government spending tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on a giant 2000 mile wall. The multi-million population centers of Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Dallas-FtWorth are thriving at record rates in the year 2019. Thousands of American citizens happily relocate to these four areas every week.

Tiny is pushing this narrative because he has zero political leverage remaining after his shitting the bed in Nov 2018 US House elections and he desperately needs to shift public attention from his family's incredible legal troubles in the months (and years) ahead
 

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[h=1]Non-Citizens Committed a Disproportionate Share of Federal Crimes, 2011-16[/h][h=2]21% of those convicted of non-immigration crimes were non-citizens — 2.5 times their share of the population[/h]

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The strong, very high percentage of federal crimes committed by non-citizens are drug law violations, notably importing illicit drugs across the southern US border and thru the northern, eastern and western borders via sea, air and shipments (FedEx, USPS, UPS etc)
 

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The strong, very high percentage of federal crimes committed by non-citizens are drug law violations, notably importing illicit drugs across the southern US border and thru the northern, eastern and western borders via sea, air and shipments (FedEx, USPS, UPS etc)

So can you answer as to what BENEFITS there are to NOT having a wall?
 

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So can you answer as to what BENEFITS there are to NOT having a wall?

Yes. The tax dollars are better spent elsewhere.

And yes, there is an jncredibly long list of other very dubious federal spending items. Which is now and has always been a troubling component of our federal government during my 41 years as a voter.

Adding over $1trillion dollars to national debt in just 12 months will be one of Tiny's legacies. But I remain highly bullish about the future of the United States as he will be replaced by another President and that person will in turn be replaced many times over during my next 40+ years of life.

We are bigger and better than any one "crisis", real or manufactured. Always have been. Always will.
 

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Yes. The tax dollars are better spent elsewhere.

And yes, there is an jncredibly long list of other very dubious federal spending items. Which is now and has always been a troubling component of our federal government during my 41 years as a voter.

Adding over $1trillion dollars to national debt in just 12 months will be one of Tiny's legacies. But I remain highly bullish about the future of the United States as he will be replaced by another President and that person will in turn be replaced many times over during my next 40+ years of life.

We are bigger and better than any one "crisis", real or manufactured. Always have been. Always will.

So... you are saying that the $5 billion he is asking for would be better spend elsewhere... and thats the only benefit of not having the wall? Thats it??

Ok, so where would that $5 billion be better spent, then to have a wall to help deter illegals, smugglers, human and drug trafficking?
 

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wall pays for itself many times over if just a small % of illegals stay on their side
 

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So... you are saying that the $5 billion he is asking for would be better spend elsewhere... and thats the only benefit of not having the wall? Thats it??

Ok, so where would that $5 billion be better spent, then to have a wall to help deter illegals, smugglers, human and drug trafficking?

Yes, that's what I'm saying

Best use of this mythical (for the moment) $5b would be to not spend it at all. Due to Tiny having added $1trillion to our national debt over these past 12 months any amount of reduced spending gets my support


Meanwhile, if you truly do not grok any of the other cited logical complaints with our federal government building a 2000 mile 40 foot high wall, you are just being lazy. There are an endless number of well-articulated arguments against that idea and they are easy to find. But for me, the financial foolishness tops the list and is sufficient to end the discussion. If you want to extend this argument you'll need to find someone more interested in the topic.

I believe it's all temporary because within the next few months (or even just weeks), trumpco will be so further exposed legally that any and all yakkety-yak about "a 2000 mile border wall" will quickly fade into American oblivion as no future POTUS will ever remotely attempt such silliness
 

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If we put up a wall and change some laws so we aren't forced to process and pay benefits to so many illegals which cost way more than 5 Billion..there you go . The wall doesn't cost us money....not putting up a wall and keep retarded laws that force us to process and pay for them costs us
 

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Lanquel probably has a wall around his house and rolls with a 10 person security team like Zuckerberg.
 

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Yes. The tax dollars are better spent elsewhere.

And yes, there is an jncredibly long list of other very dubious federal spending items. Which is now and has always been a troubling component of our federal government during my 41 years as a voter.

Adding over $1trillion dollars to national debt in just 12 months will be one of Tiny's legacies. But I remain highly bullish about the future of the United States as he will be replaced by another President and that person will in turn be replaced many times over during my next 40+ years of life.

We are bigger and better than any one "crisis", real or manufactured. Always have been. Always will.
Like sending $500 million to Jordan so they can build a wall?
 

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Excellent points, C. I of course know quite a few people in my home state of Texas and literally zero express support for our federal government spending tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on a giant 2000 mile wall. The multi-million population centers of Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Dallas-FtWorth are thriving at record rates in the year 2019. Thousands of American citizens happily relocate to these four areas every week.

Tiny is pushing this narrative because he has zero political leverage remaining after his shitting the bed in Nov 2018 US House elections and he desperately needs to shift public attention from his family's incredible legal troubles in the months (and years) ahead

Do Libs make up their own numbers? 10's of billions for the wall?

CNN must be lying when they report Repubs asking for 5.4 billion.

I bet Nancy Pilosi spent a pretty penny on her wall.
 

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I spent like 9K on a fence to keep my dog in, didn't want her running off with the male chihuahua next door.

I suppose I'm a bad person because anyone who doesn't know I have a dog could say I built the fence to keep the Chihuahua out!

That is extremely racist!
 
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Yes. The tax dollars are better spent elsewhere.

And yes, there is an jncredibly long list of other very dubious federal spending items. Which is now and has always been a troubling component of our federal government during my 41 years as a voter.

Adding over $1trillion dollars to national debt in just 12 months will be one of Tiny's legacies. But I remain highly bullish about the future of the United States as he will be replaced by another President and that person will in turn be replaced many times over during my next 40+ years of life.

We are bigger and better than any one "crisis", real or manufactured. Always have been. Always will.
Where else are you going to spend 25 billion one time to save 150 billion per YEAR?.....Theres just no justifying anything your trying to argue against the wall...The President said many times Mexico would pay for it through USMCA....

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Yes, that's what I'm saying

Best use of this mythical (for the moment) $5b would be to not spend it at all. Due to Tiny having added $1trillion to our national debt over these past 12 months any amount of reduced spending gets my support


Meanwhile, if you truly do not grok any of the other cited logical complaints with our federal government building a 2000 mile 40 foot high wall, you are just being lazy. There are an endless number of well-articulated arguments against that idea and they are easy to find. But for me, the financial foolishness tops the list and is sufficient to end the discussion. If you want to extend this argument you'll need to find someone more interested in the topic.

I believe it's all temporary because within the next few months (or even just weeks), trumpco will be so further exposed legally that any and all yakkety-yak about "a 2000 mile border wall" will quickly fade into American oblivion as no future POTUS will ever remotely attempt such silliness

Translated: I Cant name any other place the $5billion should be spend, so Ill just ramble on and deflect to other things.... while still not giving 1 single benefit of not having the wall, while throwing in insults as well.

Insult, deflect and ignore... how Liberals debate
 

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Lanquel probably has a wall around his house and rolls with a 10 person security team like Zuckerberg.

Since leaving Toronto a couple years ago and locking in my dual citizenship, I bought a boring, mainstream 1200 sq ft condo in same community as my ol' pal Barman. No walls, no gates....rarely lock the front door of house, never lock the doors on either vehicle and wave happy hellos to neighbors who hail from over a dozen different countries. I can't explain it but somehow MS13 gang members have not been able to lock down any territory pretty much anywhere within 2000 miles of my front door.

Also no women AFAIK being stuffed into backseats of vehicles (that are far superior to anything being driven by cops or USBP) with their eyes and mouths duct taped with that powerful blue electrical tape that Tiny seems rather fixated upon.
 

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Where else are you going to spend 25 billion one time to save 150 billion per YEAR?.....Theres just no justifying anything your trying to argue against the wall...The President said many times Mexico would pay for it through USMCA....

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You were doing pretty well right up until "The President said...."


USMCA has not even been passed into law yet and will not be unless the Democrat-controlled House and the prevailing legislative bodies in both Canada and Mexico ratify it.

Tiny could not even get desired funding for his fever dream wall when his party controlled both sides of Congress. Hilarious to see him suddenly declare "an emergency"
 

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It is ruefully awesome to watch Tiny now doing daily rants on camera now that he realizes he utterly shit the bed in his first 24 months. The graphic rape&pillage porn fantasies he extols are amazing.

Sadly, he sorta lacks in creativity so we can rely on him rolling out the same pack of dozens of daily lies as he awaits the impending legal hammers poised to drop on him and his three sycophant offspring.

We suggest those addicted to his tired Reality TV White House shift their attention to more time with family, improving your financial scene (after all, the US economy is "the greatest it's ever been!!") and maybe enjoying the upcoming NBA and NHL postseasons along with March Madness and a great MLB season. By the time those have all completed, we should be just about through the "trump era"
 

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