most cleveland fans despise thome for taking the money from philadelphia instead of giving them a home town discount to stay in a town where he was beloved. ramirez, thome, and belle are three guys who had great careers in cleveland but take a TON of criticism locally.
im not a fan of teams and players. incidentally, of the three cleveland teams the indians are the organization im most apathetic toward. the clowns are the only franchise where i have some loyalty.
i still feel that thome and konerko are the two guys in the chicago lineup that you TRULY have to work your bullpen around.
im not a fan of teams and players. incidentally, of the three cleveland teams the indians are the organization im most apathetic toward. the clowns are the only franchise where i have some loyalty.
i still feel that thome and konerko are the two guys in the chicago lineup that you TRULY have to work your bullpen around.
Thome almost hit below .100 in LIPS last season and has hit below .150 the last three seasons in those spots.
No White Sox player or coach would agree with Prodigy and if you think I am lying then you have not been watching White Sox baseball or reading the papers.
Just a few quotes.
Dye- "We seem to always get lucky, and (Crede) always seems to be up there. He is hands down the best clutch hitter in the game"
Rowand - "Time after time he bails us out. You find me one player in baseball that has done what he has done. You give me (Crede) in those spots and I'll win almost every game."
Guillen - "The Kid (Crede) is great. Who else in the game stinks so bad the rest of the game, and then wins the game late. They always ask me you don't think (Crede) can do it again do you? I say **** yeah he can, and he better."
Konerko - "A lot of teams have late inning specialist in the bullpen, but we are lucky enough to be given a late in specialist at the plate. Whether it is a sacrifice fly or a walk of home run, (Crede) always finds a way to get it done."
Jenks - "He is the best in the business, hands down. You find me another guy that has done what (Crede) has done in the past few years, and I'll change my mind."
Garland - "(Crede) has given me more no decisions then anyone in baseball. I think I owe him a few."
Those are just a few of the quotes from guys on the team. And Thome carried the Phills? Joe Crede hit nearly .400 and had a walk of HR and two walk off hits the September that the White Sox were sliding quickly and almost blew the playoffs. The game against the Indians earlier in the month saw the White Sox with only a two game lead and a tie game in the bottom of the 10th and their lead was in jeopardy of going down to one game. Crede hit a walk off about 420 feet and the White Sox went on to win 19 of there final 24 games including the playoffs. He had, by far, there best post season.
Thome is not a bad player, but no White Sox fan or media figure in Chicago would take Thome up in that situation over Crede. I am sorry but you are off on this one. Not only that but last year there is no way anyone takes THome over Dye. That was not Thome's job last season, and he did not excel in it. Dye and Crede did. Jermaine had 6 HR's and 18 RBI's in LIPS last season and hit .347.
Once again no pitcher would have rather pitched to Thome then Crede. Guys hit in situations and scouts play off that. I have a slight unfair advantage because my best friends brother is a scout for the Tigers so I have read things similar to that on Thome and Crede. If you think I am lying I can try to convince him to give me a scouting report and I'll scan it and post it here.
They do break games down by innings and say which hitters are most dangerous in those spots.
No White Sox player or coach would agree with Prodigy and if you think I am lying then you have not been watching White Sox baseball or reading the papers.
Just a few quotes.
Dye- "We seem to always get lucky, and (Crede) always seems to be up there. He is hands down the best clutch hitter in the game"
Rowand - "Time after time he bails us out. You find me one player in baseball that has done what he has done. You give me (Crede) in those spots and I'll win almost every game."
Guillen - "The Kid (Crede) is great. Who else in the game stinks so bad the rest of the game, and then wins the game late. They always ask me you don't think (Crede) can do it again do you? I say **** yeah he can, and he better."
Konerko - "A lot of teams have late inning specialist in the bullpen, but we are lucky enough to be given a late in specialist at the plate. Whether it is a sacrifice fly or a walk of home run, (Crede) always finds a way to get it done."
Jenks - "He is the best in the business, hands down. You find me another guy that has done what (Crede) has done in the past few years, and I'll change my mind."
Garland - "(Crede) has given me more no decisions then anyone in baseball. I think I owe him a few."
Those are just a few of the quotes from guys on the team. And Thome carried the Phills? Joe Crede hit nearly .400 and had a walk of HR and two walk off hits the September that the White Sox were sliding quickly and almost blew the playoffs. The game against the Indians earlier in the month saw the White Sox with only a two game lead and a tie game in the bottom of the 10th and their lead was in jeopardy of going down to one game. Crede hit a walk off about 420 feet and the White Sox went on to win 19 of there final 24 games including the playoffs. He had, by far, there best post season.
Thome is not a bad player, but no White Sox fan or media figure in Chicago would take Thome up in that situation over Crede. I am sorry but you are off on this one. Not only that but last year there is no way anyone takes THome over Dye. That was not Thome's job last season, and he did not excel in it. Dye and Crede did. Jermaine had 6 HR's and 18 RBI's in LIPS last season and hit .347.
Once again no pitcher would have rather pitched to Thome then Crede. Guys hit in situations and scouts play off that. I have a slight unfair advantage because my best friends brother is a scout for the Tigers so I have read things similar to that on Thome and Crede. If you think I am lying I can try to convince him to give me a scouting report and I'll scan it and post it here.
They do break games down by innings and say which hitters are most dangerous in those spots.
Crede hits behind Thome. And there have been countless times in late inning situations where they have a righty in the game that will go right after Thome knowing Crede is on deck. Last night was a great example of the fear of Crede in big situations...
Jermaine Dye was up with men on 2nd and 3rd. Harden fell behind Dye 3-0 and threw 5 straight fastballs down the middle of the plate in fear of facing Crede with the bases loaded. All Be It Crede almost set the grand slam record last season in the first two months, but that shows the respect they have for him in RBI situations.
We can agree to disagree though.
But no White Sox player would want Thome up before Crede in that spot.
Also Crede will not fall off this season, Crede was the number one prospect in there system for years. He struggled in his first year and a half and then he broke his finger. While he broke his finger he changed his swing and took tutoring from Frank Thomas. Since then he has began to fulfill his potential as a player and won a Silver Slugger Award, although undeserving last season, over Alex Rodriguez. But I guess it evens out because he has gotten the Gold Glove robbed for him the last two seasons.
Crede is a star in the making, and Thome is a great player. But they have their roles on the team, and people play better in their roll.
