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Stronger pot causes policy shift

Kids treated for marijuana dependency up 142 percent

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 Posted: 1552 GMT (2352
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Alarmed by reports that marijuana is becoming more potent than ever and that children are trying it at younger and younger ages, U.S. officials are changing their drug policies.

Pot is no longer the gentle weed of the 1960s and may pose a greater threat than cocaine or even heroin because so many more people use it. So officials at the National Institutes of Health and at the White House are hoping to shift some of the focus in research and enforcement from "hard" drugs such as cocaine and heroin to marijuana.

While drug use overall is falling among children and teenagers, the officials worry that the children who are trying pot are doing so at ever-younger ages, when their brains and bodies are vulnerable to dangerous side effects.

"Most people have been led to believe that marijuana is a soft drug, not a drug that causes serious problems," John Walters, head of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, said in an interview.

"(But) marijuana today is a much more serious problem than the vast majority of Americans understand. If you told people that one in five of 12- to 17-year-olds who ever used marijuana in their lives need treatment, I don't think people would remotely understand it."

The number of children and teenagers in treatment for marijuana dependence and abuse has jumped 142 percent since 1992, the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University reported in April. This, like any other addiction, is a social problem among teenagers. The fact that so many kids are in rehab says as much about the parents who let them get that way, and the parents who smarten up and do something about it. However, rehab for pot smoking is a bit of a stretch, imo.

According to the report, children and teenagers are three times more likely to be in treatment for marijuana abuse than for alcohol, and six times likelier to be in treatment for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined.

And it found the age of youths using marijuana is falling. The teenagers aged 12 to 17 said on average they started trying marijuana at 13 1/2. The same survey found that adults aged 18 to 25 had first tried it at 16.

For National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) director Dr Nora Volkow the final straw was a report her institute published in May in the Journal of the American Medical Association showing the steady growth in the potency of cannabis seized in raids.

According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

Volkow said many studies have shown the brain has its own so-called endogenous cannabinoids. These molecules are similar in structure to the active ingredients in marijuana and are involved in a range of activities and emotions ranging from eye function to pain regulation and anxiety.

Brain cells have receptors -- molecular doorways -- designed specifically to interact with these cannabinoids.

The cannabinoids in marijuana may use these ready-made doorways into brain cells and this is why they cause a high and reduce pain sensations. But Volkow believes the effects may go beyond the general feeling of well-being that most marijuana users seek.

"I would predict that stronger pot makes the brain less likely to respond to endogenous cannabinoids," Volkow said in an interview. The effects could be especially marked in young brains still growing and learning how to respond to stimuli, she said.

While the research so far is inconclusive, Volkow believes that cannabinoids affect the developing brain and that stronger pot, combined with earlier use, could make children and teenagers anxious, unmotivated or perhaps even psychotic. Psychotic? These people have obviously never smoke a bowl before.

As an analogy, Volkow said opiate addicts are more sensitive to pain, as their overuse of drugs have raised the threshold at which the body responds and their own bodies produce fewer natural opiates.

NIDA is seeking proposals from researchers who want to investigate such possibilities for cannabis, she said.

Proponents of legalizing marijuana disagree with the official line. Krissy Oechslin of the Marijuana Policy Project disputes the finding that cannabis products are stronger.

"They make it sound like the THC levels in marijuana were almost nonexistent, but no one would have smoked it then if that was true," she said.

"And there's evidence that the stronger the THC, the less of it a person smokes. I don't want to say it's good for you, but I'll say (more potent marijuana) is less bad for you."

While Walters stresses that drug abusers are patients and not criminals, he hopes to crack down more on producers. And he says, there is a way to go in getting cooperation from local law enforcement officials. "For many in enforcement, marijuana is still 'kiddie dope'," Walters said.

He is quick to stress he does not want to overreact.

"We shouldn't be victims of reefer madness," he said, referring to the 1930s propaganda film "Reefer Madness" that became a 1970s cult classic for its over-the-top scenes of marijuana turning teenagers into homicidal maniacs.
 

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And it should be remembered that Marijuana is considered to be a "gateway" drug; a drug that many addicts start oout on before going on to stronger, more addictive drugs.
 

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gateway drug theory is ridicukous...

weed is stronger today.. & it is not good for kids, neither is Mcdonalds, lack of exercise, alcohool, second hand smoke, car exhaust etc etc etc.

If you beleive in freedom 'Land of the Free...' the only conclusion could possible be that an Adult 21+ years old should have right to choose wether or not they want to have a glass of Brandy or a Joint in their own home in the evening. There is no logical explantion why a drug like alcohool is legal & regulated but Marijuana is not.
 

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Here we have featured two of the biggest distortions presented by the Prohibitionist movement, as shown at http://www.drugwardistortions.org

1) There is no credence whatsoever to the 'gateway theory' with regard to the use of marijuana possibly causing future use of other substances.

One can make a Correlation between users of other substances and accurately conclude that most of them previously used marijuana, as well as tobacco, alcohol, peanut butter and milk.

For the supposed theory to have credence, one must be able to demonstrate a Causation between using pot and this action then creating an increased chance of using XXX. This cannot be demonstrated.

For more, see http://www.drugwardistortions.org/distortion7.htm

2) Marijuana available to 95% of North Americans is certainly no stronger today than it was 30 years ago, or at any time in history.

Strong pot has always existed and the most common grades of marijuana are only modestly stronger than 20 years ago.

Federal research shows that the average potency of cannabis in the US has increased very little. According to the federal Potency Monitoring Project, in 1985, the average THC content of commercial-grade marijuana was 2.84%, and the average for high-grade sinsemilla in 1985 was 7.17%. In 1995, the potency of commercial-grade marijuana averaged 3.73%, while the potency of sinsemilla in 1995 averaged 7.51%. In 2001, commercial-grade marijuana averaged 4.72% THC, and the potency of sinsemilla in 2001 averaged 9.03%.

For more, see http://www.drugwardistortions.org/distortion11.htm

It should be additionally noted that stronger pot, if available, is actually less risky to use since the user will ingest less to achieve desired effects.

Finally, if one wishes to access that stronger pot (I reefer here to the 9%+ stuff) you'll need between $400-$800 per ounce, as opposed to more common midgrade prices which are about 1/4 of that high rate.
 

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Bar: I would argue that a good percentage of hard drug users tried pot first. However, this does not mean that a good percentage of marijuana users will become hard drug users, experimentation notwithstanding.
 

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Look, people of reasonable thought have differing opinions about the potential benefits and the potential risks of using marijuana.

But anytime you see an article about marijuana and it includes quotes from the U.S. Drug Czar, just replace the words within the quote marks with "LIAR, LIAR, LIAR".

From the above article: While Walters stresses that drug abusers are patients and not criminals, he hopes to crack down more on producers.

BAR: If he truly meant that statement as truth, he would have an explanation for why over 88% of marijuana arrests in the U.S. during his tenure are for simple possession and not for supplying.

More people are arrested annually for simple marijuana possession than for ALL violent crimes combined.

If you want to know the biggest, most dangerous risk of using marijuana in the United States today, there it is. None of the possible health risks associated with marijuana use are as damaging to the average citizen as being arrested, prosecuted and being given a lifetime criminal record.

Here in Florida, just 21 grams - about a pack of cigarettes - will net you a felony conviction, time in county jail and/or prison, and permanently remove your rights to vote and to engage in a long list of professions.
 

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XP: Bar: I would argue that a good percentage of hard drug users tried pot first. However, this does not mean that a good percentage of marijuana users will become hard drug users, experimentation notwithstanding.

B: That's exactly what I intended to say.
 

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Mary Jane is still the least harmful recreational drug and the only drug that has no physical addiction only psychological.

The gateway theory has nothing to do with marijuana, it is societal, once one tabu has been broken it's easier to break another.

The only reason marijuana ever became illegal in the first place was because of big business lobbying in congress by chemical companies whose synthetic rope couldn't compete with the quality of hemp rope.
 

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There probably is no connection to pot and the use of stronger or dangerous drugs.But there is no question once you have broke that pyscholoigical "cherry" of getting into that type of culture you are definatley on your way.

kind of like when you were a kid and swam in water that was over your head.Once you did it succesfully there is nothing left but the Atlantic.

Put it this way,how many heroin addicts have not smoked pot?
 

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Someone who has used heroin is not unlikely to be the type person who at a previous time also tried marijuana.

But again, this only provides a correlation, not causation. Not much more relevant than the fact that all heroin users previously used aspirin.
 

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