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Besides choosing a clearcut national champ, wasn't the BCS started so we can get the best possible matchups in the BCS bowls? Judging by these lines, these games don't look very prestigious to me.

USC -10
Texas -10
Alabama -10


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They are trying to save face and more controversy by not matching up Texas vs Alabama.

I can understand what they do with the Rose Bowl but there is no reason why Texas vs Alabama can't happen with 3 vs 4.
 

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Besides choosing a clearcut national champ, wasn't the BCS started so we can get the best possible matchups in the BCS bowls? Judging by these lines, these games don't look very prestigious to me.

USC -10
Texas -10
Alabama -10


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I don't understand the point?

2002: OSU-Miami, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 13 (underdog won)
2005: USC-Texas, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 7 (underdog won)

You can't look at spreads to determine what the best matchups "should be."
 

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The BCS is really the BC$ -- the Bowl Cartel Series. They are about the matchups that maximize revenue, and they have agreements between the bowls to spread that revenue around each subsequent year. Faced with a choice of revenue and some sports justice as far as match-ups, they choose revenue every time.
 

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I can understand what they do with the Rose Bowl but there is no reason why Texas vs Alabama can't happen with 3 vs 4.

Maybe because the Sugar and Fiesta bowls, by agreement with the BCS and conferences were REQUIRED BY CONTRACT to take Alabama and Texas to replace conference champions they lost if they were automatic qualifiers (which they both were, due to the Kansas State rule). The stated goal of the BCS is to pair the #1 vs. #2 teams in a BCS Title Game, and beyond that there is no consideration given to produce the best matchups in the other games.
 

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They are trying to save face and more controversy by not matching up Texas vs Alabama.

I can understand what they do with the Rose Bowl but there is no reason why Texas vs Alabama can't happen with 3 vs 4.

Yep, the Rose Bowl has the PAC 10 and Big 11 so far up their keesters that they would be highly offended and degraded to have a decent game if it meant a team from another conference were to play in their game.
 

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These bowl tie - ins are just flat out sickening. Ohio St. should be playing Utah and should be glad they even made it. Boise St. should have replaced Ohio St. as they were rated higher in the final BCS standings but we all know the politics involved. There are six teams that have a legit shot this year and with Fla and Okla at the top, they should have first round byes and lets settle this damn thing on the field.

Okla - bye
Fla - bye

Penn St.
Texas

USC
Bama

Another thing that wouldn't be half bad would be to just go back to the traditional bowl system and let the bowl games also be "auditions" for the beauty contest. Re rank the teams after the bowls and THEN let #1 play #2.
 

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I don't understand the point?

2002: OSU-Miami, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 13 (underdog won)
2005: USC-Texas, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 7 (underdog won)

You can't look at spreads to determine what the best matchups "should be."
The point is they didn't give us the right matchups. Bama/Texas would have been a much better matchup. And probably the one the majority of us would have liked to see over Bama/Utah. And I guarantee the line wouldn't have been 10 with these two teams. And then let them matchup Utah/Ohio State. The line there also probably would have been less than 10. Penn State/USC probably couldn't have been helped with the line. But it's better one game being a double digit than three games. Believe me, the BCS knows what kind of teams they're matching up. And have a general idea of what the lines are going to be. They pay people to figure these things out. But my point is, they are just concerned with the money part with this disguise that they are giving us something special with these matchups. And with ESPN's contract with the BCS, they'll start advertising these games soon like they are some kind of gargatuan matchups. Which they aren't. Matching up the number 1 and 2 teams and the 3 and 4 teams is the only logical thing to do this season if you want the best games. Or at least the closer games on paper. The examples you gave were between the number 1 and 2 teams in the BCS. Those lines couldn't be helped. But the rest of the games are an open book where they should pair the best teams for the best games.
 
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Maybe because the Sugar and Fiesta bowls, by agreement with the BCS and conferences were REQUIRED BY CONTRACT to take Alabama and Texas to replace conference champions they lost if they were automatic qualifiers (which they both were, due to the Kansas State rule). The stated goal of the BCS is to pair the #1 vs. #2 teams in a BCS Title Game, and beyond that there is no consideration given to produce the best matchups in the other games.
There's nothing like watching one national championship and three meaningless bowl games after New Years. It really makes me look forward to bowl season.
 

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I don't understand the point?

2002: OSU-Miami, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 13 (underdog won)
2005: USC-Texas, only 2 undefeated teams - spread was 7 (underdog won)

You can't look at spreads to determine what the best matchups "should be."

since the bcs started i would love to know what double digit favorites record are ATS, id say its pretty good off the top of my head that ohio st miami is the only game where i could remember the dog covering.
 

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this year is the worst job it has ever done.

what is said is the apathy people are showing towards it.

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since the bcs started i would love to know what double digit favorites record are ATS, id say its pretty good off the top of my head that ohio st miami is the only game where i could remember the dog covering.
The double digit dogs cover records are actually pretty good in January games. And very good in December games. Michigan/Florida last season was a good example.
 

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i do think the real big dogs do good in the bowls not the bcs ones though
 

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im talking bcs only games
I was talking more about January bowls in general. BCS bowls I would have to look it up. I would say not as good because those teams are more sound overall, and tend to play to their form much better than teams out of the top 10.
 

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The BCS was started with the intent ONLY of ensuring a 1 vs. 2 matchup. It was never intended to provide specific matchups in the non-title bowls. Those games all have conference tie-ins to get their teams.
 

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my theory on it is that if the teams getting 10 in a bcs game they probably dont deserve to really be there anyways, that ohio st team that was getting about 12 was playing against a miami team that some people thought was the "best team ever"
 

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my theory on it is that if the teams getting 10 in a bcs game they probably dont deserve to really be there anyways, that ohio st team that was getting about 12 was playing against a miami team that some people thought was the "best team ever"
I also remember OU getting double digits against Florida State in their BCS title game. Whenever you see lines like that, it's all about public perception, and the way the media portrays a team. OU had been down for years, and wasn't expected to compete so soon under Stoops. And they were going up against a Heisman Trophy QB in their own backyard. Damn, that describes this year...LOL. And Ohio State was probably underestimated for two reasons: I believe Tressel was only in his second year coaching there. And OSU had played a few close low scoring games that season, and they probably weren't expected to keep up with Miami's scoring machine. I wish we got more circumstances like this in BCS games. But usually there isn't more than one surprise in any of the BCS bowls every year. If that. Urban Meyers Florida team a couple years ago was the last big surprise in BCS title game. But there again you had a program that had been average for a few years, and then comes in a second year coach. People never expect that much that soon. But teams can get good in a hurry with the right coaching. Just look at Bama this year.
 

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hmm maybe oklahoma was gettin doubles that game i thought they were getting less, but you would know for sure, i wasnt quite into betting at that stage of my life, still in high school, that was my senior year that ou fsu game
 

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