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S it takes 3 all stars to guarantee a championship... guess the Kings and Timberwolves didn't get the memo? The third all-star on LA at the time was Van Exel.

I do get what you're saying though, to an extent.
 

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What got everyone upset was when Lebron went on television to announce "The Decision" and then the Heat management set up a big charade with James, Wade and Bosh and to quote James:

"We might win 5, 6 or 7 championships"

The first time I ever saw James not choke in a meaningful playoff game, like he did last year against the Mavericks and actually takeover was in Game 6 against the Celtics this year. He finally showed that he understood what it takes to win a big game. That being said, the Heat are not a team, but 3 main players with a fair supporting cast. They may get their championship this year but it doesn't change the fact how arrogant these 3 guys continue to be. I won't be rooting for them.
 

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Don't tell me it's the wrong sport to follow. I've been playing ball and watching the NBA for 2 decades. The fact remains, IN THE MODERN ERA, Celtics are the first team that put together a team of 3 all stars or future hall of famers. Just threw them together to try to win a championship. It doesn't matter how they did it or if the players requested it, it was done. That's all I'm saying. That the Celtics were the first ones to do it in the modern era.

All I'm pointing out is that they were the first ones to do it in the modern era. Shaq and Kobe? Where's the 3rd superstar?

It's pointless talking about Barkely etc because I'm talking about in recent times. I agree that the Heat did it differently by the players pretty much putting it together themselves but it doesn't change the fact that they did it to keep up with the Celtics who were the first ones to do it.

Karl Malone joined them at the end, while he was still considered a "star" playing although clearly on the downside of his career. Media made a big deal about that too, seems forgotten, but it was a big big deal at the time. That instance was even worse then the Celtics and the Heat in my eyes due to Malone taking less money then he could have gotten elsewhere to form the super team.

I have no problems with the Celtics (via trades) or the Heat (via free agency) bundling stars together to create super teams as long as the players are getting paid market value and the trades are on the up and up. Now if the star players are all taking much less money then it gets a little shady, or if the trades are all lopsided towards the super team.
 

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S it takes 3 all stars to guarantee a championship... guess the Kings and Timberwolves didn't get the memo? The third all-star on LA at the time was Van Exel.

I do get what you're saying though, to an extent.

Van Exel? I remember that guy. Again, I was talking about in very recent times though.

I very much agree with you on the Heat pulling an idiotic stunt celebrating before they did anything. It was pure stupidity and immaturity. I think it can be forgiven though. It's in the past and we've seen atheletes do much worse things.
 

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Karl Malone joined them at the end, while he was still considered a "star" playing although clearly on the downside of his career. Media made a big deal about that too, seems forgotten, but it was a big big deal at the time. That instance was even worse then the Celtics and the Heat in my eyes due to Malone taking less money then he could have gotten elsewhere to form the super team.

I have no problems with the Celtics (via trades) or the Heat (via free agency) bundling stars together to create super teams as long as the players are getting paid market value and the trades are on the up and up. Now if the star players are all taking much less money then it gets a little shady, or if the trades are all lopsided towards the super team.

Again that was awhile ago wasn't it? I can't remember. Wasn't Karl Malone all washed up and not even a starter or contributing much? I really can't recall.

On second thought, yeah, it is fun and exciting watching these stars put on a show together. I can concede that much guys. The main point I was making was that in recent times the Celtics were the first ones to do it and force today's teams to try to keep up.

You know what? It seems sometimes posters online keep arguing just cause they don't want to admit they are wrong or just for the sake of arguing. In this instance, I think I can admit that I was wrong in that there's nothing wrong with stars getting together.
 

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Again that was awhile ago wasn't it? I can't remember. Wasn't Karl Malone all washed up and not even a starter or contributing much? I really can't recall.

On second thought, yeah, it is fun and exciting watching these stars put on a show together. I can concede that much guys. The main point I was making was that in recent times the Celtics were the first ones to do it and force today's teams to try to keep up.

You know what? It seems sometimes posters online keep arguing just cause they don't want to admit they are wrong or just for the sake of arguing. In this instance, I think I can admit that I was wrong in that there's nothing wrong with stars getting together.

Appreciate you constantly responding when its obvious most people disagree with you. A lot of people on this board just throwout some statement and never try to back it up.

Magic played with Worthy, Kareem, etc
Bird played with Parish, McHale, DJ etc
MJ played with Pippen, Rodman, etc

Maybe the reason those guys didn't "team-up" was 2 fold 1. Their teams were stacked to begin w/ 2. Player movement was much more restricted then.

You don't think a lot of the stars who couldn't get a ring during MJs prime wouldn't of teamed up if the chances truly presented itself? I'm sure some of them would've. There is nothing wrong with great players playing together, it has been a constant throughout the NBA for 50 years.
 

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S it takes 3 all stars to guarantee a championship... guess the Kings and Timberwolves didn't get the memo? The third all-star on LA at the time was Van Exel.

I do get what you're saying though, to an extent.

FWIW, NVE wasn't on any of the Laker title teams. Not sure this adds anything to the conversation but just letting you know.
 

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I understand what Jag is saying now more clearly, and now with the understanding of the time frame he's talking about, his point makes much more sense to me.
 

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you cant blame lebron for the decision when espn comes begging for it. people wanted it, had mega ratings.
 

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I would like to see Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul team up. That would be crazy.
 

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Bulls ain't too shabby themselves and they may add Gasol or a Celtic.

Don't see Bulls getting Gasol honestly. They have nothing to give really....

Their best bet is that Howard forces his way there which is still possible I think, although who knows what that soft in the head thin skinned dude is thinking..
 

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Don't see Bulls getting Gasol honestly. They have nothing to give really....

Their best bet is that Howard forces his way there which is still possible I think, although who knows what that soft in the head thin skinned dude is thinking..

so right.
 

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