This is Gameface and many others on here in a nut shell-

[Benassflick]

just give me post of the year NOW

According to Robert Cialdini's "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion," once a person makes up his/her mind, the person will stick to this decision even in the face of contradictory evidence. In other words, we want to always appear consistent. Therefore, confronted with the wrongness of our choice, we will think up reasons for why we made the decision if only to show that we are consistent. So even if newspapers hammer home the facts and a majority of the public read them daily, it is most likely that this information will not change the readers' opinions because they have already made up their minds. Consistency (not logic, reasoning and facts) rules the day.

 

[Oceans11]

I tend towards a more psychological conclusion.

Some people actually enjoy conflict/tribalism black/white while others seem to lean towards compromise and logic grey/grey.

Neither is 'superior', the survival of the human species has been and will be dependent on the huge variations within the group.

(jeez that sounds so flipping pompous...)

We are interdependent, whether we like it or not, is irrelevant.

 

[Sonny2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Benassflick:
_just give me post of the year NOW_

According to Robert Cialdini's "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion," once a person makes up his/her mind, the person will stick to this decision even in the face of contradictory evidence. In other words, we want to always appear consistent. Therefore, confronted with the wrongness of our choice, we will think up reasons for why we made the decision if only to show that we are consistent. So even if newspapers hammer home the facts and a majority of the public read them daily, it is most likely that this information will not change the readers' opinions because they have already made up their minds. Consistency (not logic, reasoning and facts) rules the day. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is true. I, myself will change my mind on issues that will prove me wrong. Now, is that flip flopin, or not being stubborn. Some people on here will NEVER change there mind. You tell them it is Sunday, they argue, no, it is Monday.

 

[lander]

Somepeople call "flip-flopping" learning from your mistakes ...

others, like Bush & Game, are too stupid to learn anything new, so therefore they cannot "flip-flop."

 

[bblight]

Idiots - try growing up and getting some wisdom -

An individual with common sense will generally gather all of the facts he can, and then make a decision. Because he did his homework up front, he'll usually stick to his decision and modify it as circumstance warrants. He'll try to stay the course and reverse a decision only in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence. He will try to do what is right and just. He will be loyal to those who support him - even if it should cause him some harm.

There are people out there who don't do their homework. They leap to conclusions and just as quickly reverse themselves. They are prone to make bad decisions because they haven't thought the issue through to it's natural conclusion. They will do as they see best for themselves. They tend to look at others around them for blame when there's a problem, rather than look at themselves and their own shortcomings. They aren't very loyal to their own.

You can't psychologize these things unless you're looking for an excvuse for your own failures and shortcomings.

 

[RobFunk]

I don't know. .

Are you guys sure it's not as simple as:

GROUP A - played with GI JOE when they were children and got it out of their system.

GROUP B - never got to play with GI JOE and support war and all issues regarding such even if they are 30 years old. "whatever just make it the damn topic"

 

[Marco]

I know exactly what eek is talking about as I work with someone on a daily basis that is all about conflict, quick decisions, and just plain disagreeing or being different. This person always has some "knowledge" about nearly any topic that is brought up....stubborn as hell...cheap too, he'd drive across town to pick up ten cents and then brag about all that money he made...(forget about gas and time).....I don't know how his wife puts up with him at all....I can always tell when his wife calls on the phone because he talks in questions like "Why.....Where....What For?"....like he wants to be in control and know what's going on at all times....everybody else he talks to, he's more pleasant and conversational....his wife he treats more derogatory....

I've always tried listening and hearing people out and coming to some agreement based on compromise and logic....if anything time has taught me to at least stop and think about the situation or idea...one other thing has been to think about a situation from someone else's perspective, it sometimes explains a lot....in all honesty I'm not always correct in my stance and taking some time to see the whole thing and maybe from someone else's viewpoint helps one to see the correct solution.....anymore I just try to avoid this guy if at all possible because he has a split second answer for damn near everything and if it's wrong he can't admit it, won't admit it, or switch the subject and steer the conversation away if he feels threatened at the thought of being incorrect...

I truly like working WITH people, and this guy is not a team player by any means......I've just come to terms with this whole situation and I try to follow the path of least resistance when it comes to this character, at times it hurts the company, but I've just decided to say "fvck it", a lot of the time I just let the cards fall where they will, take care of my own world and forget about this jerk as much as I can....

 

[Benassflick]

bblight wrote "An individual with common sense will generally gather all of the facts" These are not Americans in general though. The average American is an over weight twit that doesn't read more than one book a year, get's his world affairs news from cnn or fox t.v. and walks less than 350 yards per week. There is no fact or knowledge gathering by the average American are you shittin me.

 

[bblight]

Ben - you're an uninformed bigot and a victim of the left wing media! Think about it; where did you get this idea of Americans from?

Get a life and check out the facts!

Do you really believe that Bush could have become President if he were as stupid as you think?

Do you really believe that the US could be the dominant world power if the average American were as fat and stupid and lazy as you intimate?

Take a look at the culture in the United States as opposed to... Europe. Why is unemployment in Europe at 20% or more while it's at about 5% or 6% in the US? Why is Europe so risk aversive while the US embraces risk.

If you think about it, these factors are inherent in the cultures of the two blocks. Europeans will test the air current, distance, depth and costs before thay leap, while Americans will take the leap for the hell of it - without looking! This doesn't make either culture bad, just different.

What galls my ass is the inability of the left to recognize and laud the difference, stating instead that the Europeans are so much more cosmopolitan than the Cowboy Americans because they consider their actions so thoroughly.

I call it risk aversion.

 

[BoratSagdiyev]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bblight:
Ben - you're an uninformed bigot and a victim of the left wing media! Think about it; where did you get this idea of Americans from?

Get a life and check out the facts!

Do you really believe that Bush could have become President if he were as stupid as you think?
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Ahhhhh yeah.Huhuhuhu.</span>

Do you really believe that the US could be the dominant world power if the average American were as fat and stupid and lazy as you intimate?

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Ahhhh we became a world power when we weren't fat and lazy?</span>

Take a look at the culture in the United States as opposed to... Europe. Why is unemployment in Europe at 20% or more while it's at about 5% or 6% in the US? Why is Europe so risk aversive while the US embraces risk.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">ahhh there exists something called (financial espionage)ever hear of Menwith Hill?)Do you we would be at 5% if they were not at 20% + they care more about other things like ummm spending time with thier family and retiring at a younger age as opposed to 7 years before the average person expires. Maybe having the entire month of August is not such a bad idea after all.Hmmmm...</span>

If you think about it, these factors are inherent in the cultures of the two blocks. Europeans will test the air current, distance, depth and costs before thay leap, while Americans will take the leap for the hell of it - without looking! This doesn't make either culture bad, just different.

What galls my ass is the inability of the left to recognize and laud the difference, stating instead that the Europeans are so much more cosmopolitan than the Cowboy Americans because they consider their actions so thoroughly.

I call it risk aversion. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

[bblight]

Borat - you can't even spell English without a Soutie accent.

Wicked pissa, huh?

 

[BoratSagdiyev]

You can't even spell versace! Yes, I can! FO-SACHE!,