Illini said:I sit here in the good old Midwest. I can drive one minute to the convenience store to buy lotto tickets. I can drive 5 minutes to the OTB and bet on any number of horses, dogs, or parlay combination of them. I can buy unlimited booze and drink till I pass out. I can look at porn on the internet. I can drive to an adult bookstore and buy filth with cash that is taxed. I can drive 45 minutes to a casino where I can bet on whether a 6 rolls before a 7 on a dice table, or if 34 hits on the roulette wheel. I can fly 3 hours and bet on sports in Nevada. All that is fine and just part of being an American. But if I bet on sports in the comfort of my own home, and pass on the porn and booze, the gov't wants to concoct the idea that I'm somehow violating the standards of morality. Give me a fucking break. It's just like the NCAA telling me that they can't have a Div 1 playoff, because it would interfere with class time. But Div 1AA, Div 2, and Div 3......those guys can have a playoff because they don't need the class time. One thing is very obvious. Money talks, and this is all about money. The gov't is so arrogant and hypocritical, and they are pissed because they are not getting their cut. I can't stand to hear one more word about this morality bullshit. It's all a bunch of lies. Just shut up.
Had to get that off my chest.
I'm out.ucking:
Preach it, my RX Bash Brother!! I really FEAR for our country. Please read "The One Percent Doctrine" by Ron Suskind. It will literally make you sick about how our government has been hijacked. I am a member of a Methodist church and it has also been hijacked. I have been to this church 2 times in the last 2 years. I cannot stand to see what it has become. Illini, I apologize for this rant but I am so sad for our country. LT
You forgot.....You can fly 4 hours, get blitzed, then blow $500 in a strip joint.:realtongu
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Illini said:I sit here in the good old Midwest. I can drive one minute to the convenience store to buy lotto tickets. I can drive 5 minutes to the OTB and bet on any number of horses, dogs, or parlay combination of them. I can buy unlimited booze and drink till I pass out. I can look at porn on the internet. I can drive to an adult bookstore and buy filth with cash that is taxed. I can drive 45 minutes to a casino where I can bet on whether a 6 rolls before a 7 on a dice table, or if 34 hits on the roulette wheel. I can fly 3 hours and bet on sports in Nevada. All that is fine and just part of being an American. But if I bet on sports in the comfort of my own home, and pass on the porn and booze, the gov't wants to concoct the idea that I'm somehow violating the standards of morality. Give me a fucking break. It's just like the NCAA telling me that they can't have a Div 1 playoff, because it would interfere with class time. But Div 1AA, Div 2, and Div 3......those guys can have a playoff because they don't need the class time. One thing is very obvious. Money talks, and this is all about money. The gov't is so arrogant and hypocritical, and they are pissed because they are not getting their cut. I can't stand to hear one more word about this morality bullshit. It's all a bunch of lies. Just shut up.
Had to get that off my chest.
I'm out.
I'm not all that anti-porn. It's kind of like alcohol to me. A little bit here and there is okay, but I don't want to grow into a dirty old man, if you know what I mean. But that's my choice, and you are an adult, so watch a movie a day if you feel like it. But it is hard for me to understand that "Jenna Fucks The Whole Dallas Cowboys Team At Halftime" is okay, while betting $50 on the 2nd half after the gang bang is somehow going to destroy family life in the US.Brock Landers said:
Great Post my friend. By the way if you want to see a very interesting site.. Go to www.familywatchdog.us and check out how close they live to you own house.Illini said:
Yup, you're exactly right. Why let this whole mess ruin all my fun and spirit?? Are you fucking kidding me? I have more wrapped up in this dump than I care to admit, and I hear it is always something with me?
Wonderful, you think what you want. If I decide not to go to Vegas, his arrest did not ruin my fun and plans. It's the robbery that did.. I'm still remaining hopeful, it's not over till it's over.
I think it is 3, if I don't make this one. That is if you're keeping count.
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Wonderful, you think what you want. If I decide not to go to Vegas, his arrest did not ruin my fun and plans. It's the robbery that did.. I'm still remaining hopeful, it's not over till it's over.
I think it is 3, if I don't make this one. That is if you're keeping count.
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Illini said:That's the spirit. Let the arrest of a guy you've never met take your fun away and ruin your plans.
Well, I don't think you are going to get stiffed. And if you do, there really is nothing you can do about it anyway, so you might as well spend $300 on a flight and be there for the good times. It's kind of like you have a bet down on a game, and you can't scalp out of it at this point at matchbook live betting. It's completey out of your hands, and while you are waiting to find out the outcome, don't let it steal any more than it potentially already has. Those are my thoughts. Sorry if I offended you.bigbet1234 said:
Here's a thought for you to ponder. Let's say, well, I think you bet about $100-$500 a game, not sure what your bankroll is, but lets say you have 15K, i dunno what a lot to you is.
But you find out that you may never see that money again, sure it won't cripple you, but it makes it mark. Will you feel like being around gambling? Or for that matter, many guys, that will be talking about it, and some acting as if they are happy this has happened.
Mix booze with all that, and it could get ugly.
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But you find out that you may never see that money again, sure it won't cripple you, but it makes it mark. Will you feel like being around gambling? Or for that matter, many guys, that will be talking about it, and some acting as if they are happy this has happened.
Mix booze with all that, and it could get ugly.
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Illini said:
I don't think BOS is going anywhere, and really, why would they? Do we obey Muslim laws because some freaks in the Middle East say we are going to hell if we don't? The US cannot tell a foreign company how to run their business and what laws to follow. That's the bottom line. You'll be missed if you don't go, but that's your choice, and I can respect it if that is how you feel.bigbet1234 said:
I really dont think it is about tax revenues.
I think there are a few bible thumping freedom hating people in the government right now. These people are always present and always taking on the newest and latest thing they consider BAD. First it was alcohol, then it was porn in the 60s and 70s. All that became legalized - mostly because people did not give a shit if it was illegal and you can't control something that is illegal. Now the newest and greatest thing to take on is gambling. In the 80s and early 90s, you could call a bookie and bet, but these phone bookies weren't buying billboards in Times Square, advertising on ESPN, etc. The internet takes off, bookies consolidate online, they make more money, they advertise more. Now this is the new thing the bible thumpers are going to try to stamp out. Like alcohol, like guns, like porn, it won't fly. It might become illegal for a few years, but it will make absolutely no difference. If stores could find ways to give you alcohol in the middle of Manhattan in the 1920s, businesses will find ways to get money offshore in the 2000s.
Cocaine, prostitution, onshore sports wagering, home poker games, weed, etc are all illegal. Would anyone at this forum have a hard time finding any of these in the next 12 hours if they tried?
Abortion is the best example. It has been illegal in the past. Why did the supreme court make it legal? They made it legal because people were doing it anyways and young women were dying. If the no abortion law was 100% effective, it would still be constitutional.
If somehow someway the government stops all internet transactions (impossible, but anyways), sports gambling will move to organized crime familes and in 5 years, they will be repealing the act because 12 college kids have been shot for not paying their debts.
This is not about taxes. If it was about taxes, the government would simply make it legal and tax it. All the goverment would have to do is say: MGM, WYNN, ESPN, etc we are legalizing online gambling. We are taxing 33% of the profits. To make it manageable, there is a $10,000,000 fee for a license. The line to sign up would be at least 100 long... Does anyone realize how little the$12,000,000,000 (6000000000 from the US) that offshores make is to the government. Even at a 33% tax rate, that is $2billion dollars. Microsoft alone pays more than this in taxes each year and think of how many companies there are in the US.
The issue is a religious and freedom issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fed government getting a cut.
Remember the fed government does not get a cut from lotteries. Lotteries are a state issue.
I still do not understand what law prevents Vegas from offering online wireless gambing.
-Sean
I think there are a few bible thumping freedom hating people in the government right now. These people are always present and always taking on the newest and latest thing they consider BAD. First it was alcohol, then it was porn in the 60s and 70s. All that became legalized - mostly because people did not give a shit if it was illegal and you can't control something that is illegal. Now the newest and greatest thing to take on is gambling. In the 80s and early 90s, you could call a bookie and bet, but these phone bookies weren't buying billboards in Times Square, advertising on ESPN, etc. The internet takes off, bookies consolidate online, they make more money, they advertise more. Now this is the new thing the bible thumpers are going to try to stamp out. Like alcohol, like guns, like porn, it won't fly. It might become illegal for a few years, but it will make absolutely no difference. If stores could find ways to give you alcohol in the middle of Manhattan in the 1920s, businesses will find ways to get money offshore in the 2000s.
Cocaine, prostitution, onshore sports wagering, home poker games, weed, etc are all illegal. Would anyone at this forum have a hard time finding any of these in the next 12 hours if they tried?
Abortion is the best example. It has been illegal in the past. Why did the supreme court make it legal? They made it legal because people were doing it anyways and young women were dying. If the no abortion law was 100% effective, it would still be constitutional.
If somehow someway the government stops all internet transactions (impossible, but anyways), sports gambling will move to organized crime familes and in 5 years, they will be repealing the act because 12 college kids have been shot for not paying their debts.
This is not about taxes. If it was about taxes, the government would simply make it legal and tax it. All the goverment would have to do is say: MGM, WYNN, ESPN, etc we are legalizing online gambling. We are taxing 33% of the profits. To make it manageable, there is a $10,000,000 fee for a license. The line to sign up would be at least 100 long... Does anyone realize how little the$12,000,000,000 (6000000000 from the US) that offshores make is to the government. Even at a 33% tax rate, that is $2billion dollars. Microsoft alone pays more than this in taxes each year and think of how many companies there are in the US.
The issue is a religious and freedom issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fed government getting a cut.
Remember the fed government does not get a cut from lotteries. Lotteries are a state issue.
I still do not understand what law prevents Vegas from offering online wireless gambing.
-Sean
