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Everytime this has happened in the past we go right back to where we were. ie the stone age. I am sure that some select inidividuals survive these occurences because they are the ruling class.
This is for you Patriot. You and all those who are unafraid of anything and think that we are truly free.

CLIMATE COLLAPSE
The Pentagon's Weather Nightmare
The climate could change radically, and fast. That would be the mother of all national security issues.
By David Stipp


Global warming may be bad news for future generations, but let's face it, most of us spend as little time worrying about it as we did about al Qaeda before 9/11. Like the terrorists, though, the seemingly remote climate risk may hit home sooner and harder than we ever imagined. In fact, the prospect has become so real that the Pentagon's strategic planners are grappling with it.

The threat that has riveted their attention is this: Global warming, rather than causing gradual, centuries-spanning change, may be pushing the climate to a tipping point. Growing evidence suggests the ocean-atmosphere system that controls the world's climate can lurch from one state to another in less than a decade—like a canoe that's gradually tilted until suddenly it flips over. Scientists don't know how close the system is to a critical threshold. But abrupt climate change may well occur in the not-too-distant future. If it does, the need to rapidly adapt may overwhelm many societies—thereby upsetting the geopolitical balance of power.

Though triggered by warming, such change would probably cause cooling in the Northern Hemisphere, leading to longer, harsher winters in much of the U.S. and Europe. Worse, it would cause massive droughts, turning farmland to dust bowls and forests to ashes. Picture last fall's California wildfires as a regular thing. Or imagine similar disasters destabilizing nuclear powers such as Pakistan or Russia—it's easy to see why the Pentagon has become interested in abrupt climate change.

Climate researchers began getting seriously concerned about it a decade ago, after studying temperature indicators embedded in ancient layers of Arctic ice. The data show that a number of dramatic shifts in average temperature took place in the past with shocking speed—in some cases, just a few years.

The case for angst was buttressed by a theory regarded as the most likely explanation for the abrupt changes. The eastern U.S. and northern Europe, it seems, are warmed by a huge Atlantic Ocean current that flows north from the tropics—that's why Britain, at Labrador's latitude, is relatively temperate. Pumping out warm, moist air, this "great conveyor" current gets cooler and denser as it moves north. That causes the current to sink in the North Atlantic, where it heads south again in the ocean depths. The sinking process draws more water from the south, keeping the roughly circular current on the go.

But when the climate warms, according to the theory, fresh water from melting Arctic glaciers flows into the North Atlantic, lowering the current's salinity—and its density and tendency to sink. A warmer climate also increases rainfall and runoff into the current, further lowering its saltiness. As a result, the conveyor loses its main motive force and can rapidly collapse, turning off the huge heat pump and altering the climate over much of the Northern Hemisphere.

Scientists aren't sure what caused the warming that triggered such collapses in the remote past. (Clearly it wasn't humans and their factories.) But the data from Arctic ice and other sources suggest the atmospheric changes that preceded earlier collapses were dismayingly similar to today's global warming. As the Ice Age began drawing to a close about 13,000 years ago, for example, temperatures in Greenland rose to levels near those of recent decades. Then they abruptly plunged as the conveyor apparently shut down, ushering in the "Younger Dryas" period, a 1,300-year reversion to ice-age conditions. (A dryas is an Arctic flower that flourished in Europe at the time.)

Though Mother Nature caused past abrupt climate changes, the one that may be shaping up today probably has more to do with us. In 2001 an international panel of climate experts concluded that there is increasingly strong evidence that most of the global warming observed over the past 50 years is attributable to human activities—mainly the burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal, which release heat-trapping carbon dioxide. Indicators of the warming include shrinking Arctic ice, melting alpine glaciers, and markedly earlier springs at northerly latitudes. A few years ago such changes seemed signs of possible trouble for our kids or grandkids. Today they seem portents of a cataclysm that may not conveniently wait until we're history.

Accordingly, the spotlight in climate research is shifting from gradual to rapid change. In 2002 the National Academy of Sciences issued a report concluding that human activities could trigger abrupt change. Last year the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, included a session at which Robert Gagosian, director of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, urged policymakers to consider the implications of possible abrupt climate change within two decades.

Such jeremiads are beginning to reverberate more widely. Billionaire Gary Comer, founder of Lands' End, has adopted abrupt climate change as a philanthropic cause. Hollywood has also discovered the issue—next summer 20th Century Fox is expected to release The Day After Tomorrow, a big-budget disaster movie starring Dennis Quaid as a scientist trying to save the world from an ice age precipitated by global warming.

Fox's flick will doubtless be apocalyptically edifying. But what would abrupt climate change really be like?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Hollywood has also discovered the issue—next summer 20th Century Fox is expected to release The Day After Tomorrow, a big-budget disaster movie starring Dennis Quaid as a scientist trying to save the world from an ice age precipitated by global warming.
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Well i hope these hollywood types start getting rid of their gas guzzling ,limos,boats, airplanes,heated swimming pools,oversized mansions....when they start showing some REAL concern I'll worry about it...playing pretend on film about global warming just dosen't resonate with me.
 

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Great points Patriot. Hollywood actors/actresses best roles are hypocrits.

KMAN
 

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Interestingly, and contrary to what I've always thought, my brother-in-law, an environmental engineer, believes that global warming is alarmist. However, he does concede that the right's decision to stand against it has more to do with corporate interests than it does an alternate theory of dealing with greenhouse gasses ... there can be little debate, however, that we would be better off as a species if we cut back our use of cars, smoke stacks, toxic waste sites, etc. Should corporations pay for this? I don't know ... maybe there should be a 'pollution tax' relative to the amount of mileage a person racks up.

I think you only need to look at the rise in cancer rates over the past twenty five years to know that something is seriously wrong.
 

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I agree xpanda. We need to cut back on our use of fossil fuels at least until we can figure out what the heck is going on. Our sciences are only now able to reveal to us what we want to know. Maybe the oil embargo in the early 70's was a ruse intended to make us cut back without telling us the whole story.
 

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Apparently in the days following 9/11 the average US temperature was up to 2 degrees above the norm.
The heavy commercial air traffic in the US creates enough artificial cloud to reflect significant energy back into space.

The thing is, 10,000 years ago my house was under a 1 mile thick glacier.
The increase in temperature has helped real estate values significantly.
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2000 years ago Carthage in North Africa fought Rome for mediterranean supremacy.
(Hannibal was carthages' greatest General)
Carthage was wealthy and powerful, and grew wheat on the plains of North Africa.(Lybia/Tunisia)
No-one can grow significant wheat crops there anymore, its all gone, long gone.

Extreme climate change is natural, the speed of it is the issue.
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My own take on cancer increases is twofold.

1. Longevity of people has increased significantly.
2. The crap/chemicals the food industry puts into its product.
Apparently we now take longer to decompose after dying, because of the level of preservatives in our bodies.
 

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