These online poker players...

[HarryCaray]

Seen this phenomenon over and over again and it drives me nuts. People that make very strong moves at pots preflop and then say say "well I figured I was flipping". Then why would you want to get all your chips in?

I'll give two examples.

Level 2 of a $20 buy in tournament, so everyone is about 80-100 big blinds deep. I raise from early position, guy in late position with absolutely zero chips in the pot shoves in 100 big blinds. I have KK, call him, and he flips up AJo. He types into chat "well I figured you for a small pair so I figured we'd be flipping." The results are inconsequential (my hand held up), but why would he want to throw 100 bbs at a pot he is not at all invested in with a marginal hand like that?

Second example, I'm at the final table of a $20 buy-in 1200 guarantee. I am second in chips, I pick up 99 in the small blind, button raises and I shove over top. Chip leader is in the big blind and calls me, tables KQ. Again, "figured I was flipping". Why would you want to get nearly all your chips in in that situation on a coin flip? And what happens if you're wrong and I have QQ, KK, AA, AQ, or AK...all extremely possible holdings that have you crushed.

Honestly I just don't get it. At 50 cent tournaments or something, sure, but in the 1200 there was a few hundred dollars at stake. :think2:

 

[HarryCaray]

Another unspoken way I see this on display is when people call all their chips cold (and have 20+ bbs) with pocket 2s. There is literally no hand you have dominated here. It's like I'm saying to you "ok, there is between a 50 and 80 percent chance you will lose this hand and be out", and they still opt to call.

This one I actually like because it's extremely profitable to me, but since when was the point of poker to get your chips in as a coin flip at best? Isn't the point of poker to get your chips in with positive expectation?

 

[bigbet1234]

One word. ....addiction. You of all should see it

 

[festeringZit]

Harry,

The simple answer is, they are donkeys.

I get a kick out of the reraise all-in with 22 -> 66 move, when 95+% of the time they are either flipping or totally dominated, it's a total loser move all-around.

 

[8ate]

Actually; early in tourneys; doubling through to get chip advantage is standard play; especially in re-buys..A lltta guys will go all in to have a 40-60 % chance of doubling stack; figuring they can dominate weaker players with a double stack...gl

 

[HarryCaray]

Harry,

The simple answer is, they are donkeys.

I get a kick out of the reraise all-in with 22 -> 66 move, when 95+% of the time they are either flipping or totally dominated, it's a total loser move all-around.

See, I don't mind SHOVING with a small pair under the right conditions. CALLING with one is a different story, unless pot odds/chip stacks dictate.

If blinds are 50/100 and you raise to 300 on the button with 44 (don't mind that play), and a short stack in the blind pushes in for 800 total, it's an easy call. I'm talking about when blinds are 50/100 and you have 6k chips and you don't have anything in the pot and someone shoves ahead of you and you call with 44. wtf

 

[MotorMouth]

Seen this phenomenon over and over again and it drives me nuts.

So you would prefer if they made BETTER decisions against you:think2:

 

[HarryCaray]

Seen this phenomenon over and over again and it drives me nuts.

So you would prefer if they made BETTER decisions against you:think2:

Nah of course not, I guess I just don't understand the mentality.

 

[theMadMan]

Seen this phenomenon over and over again and it drives me nuts. People that make very strong moves at pots preflop and then say say "well I figured I was flipping". Then why would you want to get all your chips in?

I'll give two examples.

Level 2 of a $20 buy in tournament, so everyone is about 80-100 big blinds deep. I raise from early position, guy in late position with absolutely zero chips in the pot shoves in 100 big blinds. I have KK, call him, and he flips up AJo. He types into chat "well I figured you for a small pair so I figured we'd be flipping." The results are inconsequential (my hand held up), but why would he want to throw 100 bbs at a pot he is not at all invested in with a marginal hand like that?

Second example, I'm at the final table of a $20 buy-in 1200 guarantee. I am second in chips, I pick up 99 in the small blind, button raises and I shove over top. Chip leader is in the big blind and calls me, tables KQ. Again, "figured I was flipping". Why would you want to get nearly all your chips in in that situation on a coin flip? And what happens if you're wrong and I have QQ, KK, AA, AQ, or AK...all extremely possible holdings that have you crushed.

Honestly I just don't get it. At 50 cent tournaments or something, sure, but in the 1200 there was a few hundred dollars at stake. :think2:

This happens everyday LIVE -CASH too....
Its poker Deal with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Murphy8276]

This happens everyday LIVE -CASH too....
Its poker Deal with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:coke: ?





-murph

 

[MotorMouth]

Nah of course not, I guess I just don't understand the mentality.

The truth is that it doesnt matter to that type. They are looking to gamble mostly.
You invest $20 , hoping to play well and win several hundred, they gamble $20 and hope to parlay into several hundred and
when they go down its no big deal cuz it dont mean nothin'

 

[CHOPTALK]

Why are you guys complaining about bad players?
Rejoice!

 

[HarryCaray]

The truth is that it doesnt matter to that type. They are looking to gamble mostly.
You invest $20 , hoping to play well and win several hundred, they gamble $20 and hope to parlay into several hundred and
when they go down its no big deal cuz it dont mean nothin'

yeah you're right, this is what it is

 

[HarryCaray]

This happens everyday LIVE -CASH too....
Its poker Deal with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus man, hahahaha, calm down.

Why are you guys complaining about bad players?
Rejoice!

Yeah I didn't mean to complain, I guess I was just making conversation. Truth be told my hand held up in both examples, I'm not bitter, I just find it curious.

 

[pocketrockets]

Man, stupid bingo players are everywhere.

So I hit downtown SJ bets 1-2 table. Buy in $400. 1st hand one raise to $10 and 3 callers, I raise to $30 with KK. 3 players call including villain. Flop is K 2 5... he raises to $40 and I raise to $120 everyone folds.

3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call, everyone calls. So... we are talking about a $330 pot already. Flop comes 2-3-J... Short stack moves for $80, 2 calls and I shove figuring I have the best hand. Villain calls and another guy calls. $1250 pot... villain has Q2, all in guy #1 99, all in guy #2 A3... villain is the only one covering me, even if I lose to the other shoves I win.

Turn 2, River Q. Guy celebrates like a dumbass proclaiming he never has fear of calling "sharks".

I spent half an hour debating weather to fuck this guy up when he went for a smoke.

He then lost his $1250 with 10-5 against K-K on a 2-3-K-4-5 board. I recovered my losses as I avoided tilt but man, he ruined my night.

I'm yet to have a losing session at that casino, yesterday was very close.

 

[HarryCaray]

I spent half an hour debating weather to fuck this guy up when he went for a smoke.

LMFAO that's awesome

 

[festeringZit]

Man, stupid bingo players are everywhere.

So I hit downtown SJ bets 1-2 table. Buy in $400. 1st hand one raise to $10 and 3 callers, I raise to $30 with KK. 3 players call including villain. Flop is K 2 5... he raises to $40 and I raise to $120 everyone folds.

3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call, everyone calls. So... we are talking about a $330 pot already. Flop comes 2-3-J... Short stack moves for $80, 2 calls and I shove figuring I have the best hand. Villain calls and another guy calls. $1250 pot... villain has Q2, all in guy #1 99, all in guy #2 A3... villain is the only one covering me, even if I lose to the other shoves I win.

Turn 2, River Q. Guy celebrates like a dumbass proclaiming he never has fear of calling "sharks".

I spent half an hour debating weather to fuck this guy up when he went for a smoke.

He then lost his $1250 with 10-5 against K-K on a 2-3-K-4-5 board. I recovered my losses as I avoided tilt but man, he ruined my night.

I'm yet to have a losing session at that casino, yesterday was very close.

"3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call"

Flat calling 27 BBs with KJ? Um, who's the fish?

 

[MotorMouth]

Man, stupid bingo players are everywhere.

"3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call"

Flat calling 27 BBs with KJ? Um, who's the fish?

B-I-N-G-O..B-I-N-G-O...B-I-N-G-O
and BINGO was his name O

 

[JustinCruise]

"3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call"

Flat calling 27 BBs with KJ? Um, who's the fish?

Haha +1

 

[CHOPTALK]

"3 hands afterwards, I have KJ on an action pot raised to $12 by UTG+1, 2 callers, guy raises to $54 all in, villain calls, I call"

Flat calling 27 BBs with KJ? Um, who's the fish?

Yea but it was an action pot so it was ok. Lol