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I have read these forums for ever and I have heard 2 things about Cascade sportsbook. The guys that run that place are fabulous. Class Act. Honorable. The other things said are lookout, in trouble, stay away, slow pays. How can Shrink or who ever the so called owner of this site let this stuff go on. Just because Cascade pulled their advertising what, a year ago. The members of these forums are all looking for answers. The answer seems to be easy. If someone can step forward with PROOF and I mean an actual person who has gotten screwed by Cascade. Someone with a name, an amount, a reason why they are expecting money and not receiving it. All these rumors, all the scare tactics only hurt. If you go back over the years you will see all the attempted posts to shut down Lennys shop. It never happened. The Shrink loves it. For sure it makes for good reading. For sure it makes him money. Wasn’t there someone last year that came on the forums saying that a friend of a friend of a friend isn't getting paid by Cascade and the Shrink let all the poster have a field day bad mouthing Cascade. Shrinks excuse was, "I was out of town" But the truth is he wanted the 4 page thread ripping Cascade to go on and on and on. I am pretty sure everyone in this industry knows what kind of people own watchdog sites. Shrink, Russ. They only care about one thing. $$$$$. They all have their little scams. Their ways of making money. Special advertising deals. Don’t think that every advertiser pays the same amount. They all have different deals. It all depends on what the book can do for the owner of these sites. So when you are reading all of the things about a sportsbook being in trouble, most of the time it is the RX starting problems for better ratings. You all think the Shrink helps people get their money from a slow pay book. That’s a joke. If the book is going to pay you, they will pay you. It has nothing to do with what the Shrink says. It’s all a sham. As soon as a real person can come forth with valid information on a book going under, let us all know. But maybe for once these forum moderators can be honest and truthful and not let books get slammed to the ground without knowing a single truth to what is being said. So as a player, as a reader, please don’t believe what the forums tell you unless a respectable "someone" comes forth with proof. It’s all about money to these watchdog sites. So they don’t care what you read, as long as you are reading. Proof, Evidence, that’s what is need or its slander. And we all know Cascade has been the victim on more than one occasion. With no help of the RX. And for the books that advertise here, lookout because this place wouldn’t throw you a raft if you were drowning. The would say one is on its way but its not true.
 

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Welcome to TheRx.com

Cascade is thought of highly by Myself and SHRINK. I know this.

There are some questionable circumstances being circulated. Thats all we know.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> You all think the Shrink helps people get their money from a slow pay book. That’s a joke. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SHRINK helps alot to get players paid. I work on his behalf often.

Your post throwing Cascade in the spotlight once again is of no help to their cause either IMO.

Good day
 

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hey general,

screw this guy...and help me with my bases question in the main forum..Thanks
 

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THESE FORUMS ARE A JOKE ......&....... I HAVE READ THESE FORUMS FOREVER.

Those are the first two things from your post.

If I thought they were a joke like you say, I would move on.

I have done this at other forums that do not interest me, educate me, or show little or no professionalism.
 

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Has anyone ever heard of the old saying "I'll get him no matter what", Well, thats what is happening here. Once again someone is trying to take down Cascade for what, the 3rd or 4th time in 2 years without proof. People go on and on with BlueGrass too. Both books still operating and paying. I just think it is this sites obligation to once and for all stop the slander or stop others from telling lies with no proof. just rumors. But the RX needs the posts. They are what keeps suckers like me around reading stupid lies. Sometimes entertaining. But to call yourself a watchdog site moderator and allow this type of crap to go on for years and years with no kind of help to the book, thats what the joke is.
 

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Let me remind you of just ONE case in point.

ACES GOLD

They were up an running and paying like you say.........what difference did that make to the MILLIONS they stiffed posters??
 

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Thats like somebody saying my car keeps getting me to work, even though I know the tires are going bald, the tranny is about to go out, and I need a new battery.

One day that car will not get that person to work.........and worse yet, relish it to the junkyard never to be seen again.

PS- This has nothing to do with Bluegrass or Cascasde, as I personally do not know what is going on with these shops.....but they are sure in the public eye at MANY forums..................and for that reason, I would take an extra step of precaution.
 

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That was great that you saved some people from aces gold. But how about all the money you cost Cascade,Bluegrass and other books that have been victims of the RX lies and lies from its posters where the RX moderators fail to help the book. This has been going on for years now and nothing has been done about it. You just let the lies come in. PROOF. where is it. The proof is in the bank accounts of Cascade and Bluegrass. You allow all the shit to stir, stir some yourself and the only people suffering are the books. They have the money. They have proven to have the money, but no one has proof they dont. You let them go down in flames with no help and they seem to always put thier own flames out. You are suppose to help not hurt. And good for the RX. Aces gold Whaoo. you saved 100 people from losing an average of $500 bucks. But in this case, you let all your readers drain the bank accounts of books that paid you money for years. Banks are full. Lies gets started. Banks get drained. Players get paid. New money goes back in the bank. How many times are you going to allow these books to get slammed. At what point will the RX say, "back off of these books that keep paying and paying and paying".
 

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LMFAO!!!!

If this forum, or ANY forum, causes DIRE STRAITS upon a book then that is quite frankly one WEAK book.

Please, LMFAO!!
 

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There is/was a suspicion of a big backer pulling out of cascade. That is all. It warrants a heads-up!

Bluegrass is/was slow paying a player and I know this for fact as I was told last night by BLUEGRASS!!!
 

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Everyone knows that when you get your tires slashed by someone and replace the tires right away, you will get to work. they also know that when someone cuts your battery cables and you fix them right away, you can get to work. This isn't an old sportsbook running on bald tires man, people are slashing the tires. people are putting sugar in tha gas tank. but the "car owners keep going to the bank, fixing the problems caused by others and moving foward. So if you had a car dealer and sold perfect cars, then one day the gaurd, in this case is the RX, the person protecting, lets someone in to slash the tires, it looks like an inside job. just like whats going on here.
 

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I would like to hear about one book in history that was taken down by a forum........ANY FORUM.

.........and if that were the case, the entire industry, from players to other books are much better off without them then.
 

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It would be very unprofessional to name sources on this forum. This is why you must use your own wisdom and make choices for yourself.
 

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Thats a cop out general. To come into a public forum and spread rumors that could affect the survival of a human being. What a joke. You guys have talk about Cascade going under for at least 2 years now. Why can't you protect them for once. There is no one with inside info on backers. Its all a lie. And there is not one book that has gone under because of these forums but it sure looks like you are doing your best to put them down but thats strange, all the bad press givin about cascade herre at the RX doesn't even phase Cascade. they keep paying and paying and paying. How is it possible that a book paysoff everyone that asks for money and the RX still allows the lies?
 

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I am not certain it is a lie.

Lenny told me they will be fine.

We will see. I am 100% hoping this to be the case.

AND, again, you starting up another thread stirring it all up once again is of no help to the book either.
 

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It seems to me by reading your posts over time and your responses to prior Cascade problems you have a personal relationship with lenny. You always have good things to say. Not like the others. Why dont you back your friend up instead of letting Shrink boss you around. General, you know whats right here. To allow a book to get slandered like Cascade has taken for the past 2 years isn't right. you k now it. And if your not 100% sure its lies or not, how can it be said. shouldn't it just be stopped. Do the right thing general.
 

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6.23.2004 (12:53 PM CST)
Cascade (SBR rating C) Players should use caution. SBR continues to with hold a further downgrade while trying to verify the financial backing. There are a few reports of credit players being slow paid, these reports are not through SBR and have not been confirmed. In addition, SBR can confirm a well respected agent has pulled out along with one minor investor. SBR at this time would recommend players who deposit money (post-up players) who enjoy Cascade keep their balances at a bare minimum or withdraw their funds until more facts are known. Credit players who have strong agents, that are fully responsible for all settlements, are not affected.

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Sports911

Struggling Costa Rica-based bookmaker, Cascade Sports, received a crushing blow this afternoon. Sports911.com has learned that one of the shop's largest credit packages was yanked. 60 players in total, most of whom bet substantial amounts of money per game, will no longer utilize Cascade. The bookmaker relies heavily on volume from such credit packages.

For more than a year now the management of offshore behemoth, Grande, has provided financial backing for Cascade. The owner of Grande flew in to Costa Rica this past week to meet with Cascade management.

Insiders suggest Cascade's problems are a result of sometimes reckless gambling by one of the sportsbook's primary principals. It has become very obvious in the past year that many of Cascade's colleagues were less likely to assist the struggling enterprise, which is situated in an old coffee warehouse overlooking San Jose, Costa Rica.

Few industry people believe Cascade will shut down without paying all remaining debts however, though it is becoming more likely the book will either cease operating or be absorbed into another company.

The founder of Cascade Sports was once a partner in San Jose, Costa Rica's most popular land based casino, Club Colonial.

Industry observers continue to study the situation. Some optimism was brought to light on the Major Wager website earlier today prior to this important package being pulled during the afternoon hours. This morning's announcement might hint at Grande's willingness to still back Cascade Sports.

In any event, Sports911.com cannot overemphasize caution here until this matter is all sorted out.

Cascade Sports maintains a relatively small post up business.
 

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