The vast, worldwide, left wing media conspiracy

[bblight]

First the head of BBC has to resign over the Gilligan fiasco and Kelly suicide -claiming that he and the BBC had no ill intent and were not aware of the bad info they used in their claims - Yeah - everyone believes that the BBC is totally outside of the political process - yeah!

Next, dozens of US newspapers have to retract statements and make apologies after blindly following the CBS lead in accusations that President Bush defaulted in his National Guard duties. CBS first said that "Although the documents are false, the information they contain is true!" and stood behind their story. Next we find that Mary Mapes, the producer that aired the Dan Rather, 60 Minutes story put the DNC and Kerry campaign in touch with the source that fed 60 Minutes the false documents. Anyway, CBS claims that they're totally outside of the political process and always present a fair and balanced story - Yeah! Right!

People like eek and xpanda, true believers and followers of the party line might argue otherwise, but the truth is there - plain and simple to see - there is a worldwide left wing media conspiracy.

 

[CharlieChan]

Make yourself a nice hat, you are going to need it.:finger: :finger: :finger:

 

[bblight]

Charlie - You're blinded by your own ignorance!

I'll type this slowly so you can understand - We forgive you because we understand how easily the dim witted are lead around by the nose. You and Dan Rather have a lot in common!

 

[billthecop]

Just let them babble on, (only 41 days to go, then we can concentrate on our ticket for 08')!

 

[xpanda]

I'll bite -- of course, I'm forced to ignore the fact that a 'worldwide' conspiracy among any particular group, or industry or what have you, isn't at all preposterous. I'm also not going to get into an argument with you about whether or not the media is 'liberal.' You obviously have little understanding of the term anyway.

Anyway ... what, praytell, are the so-called 'liberal medias' conspiring over? Everybody wants Bush out? Is this it?

Now, I'll type slowly so as not to confuse you ... the media, for the most part, play to an audience. Depending on the poll, and the country, support for Bush outside the US rarely hits much more than 20%. Now, as a marketer, what would you do?

Consider, too, that both eek and I, as internet users, have access to Fox News and other such pro-Bush media outlets. Why are we not swayed by them? If public opinion is influenced by media, rather than the media being influenced by public opinion (although a combination of the two is most likely) why are there not scores of us converting and embracing the Big Fat Bush Mantra??

Let's also consider another possibility -- maybe Bush really IS the cocksucker that many of us believe him to be and any supposed 'slant' in reporting is simply the precise portrayal of events that he deserves. Maybe this kind of candidness in reporting could have helped prevent the rise of Mussolini or Hitler. Just a thought.

(oh, one small fact about the worldwide media -- Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corporation, parent to Fox News, The Weekly Standard and few other NeoCon lapdogs, is the largest media owner in the world. He doesn't strike me as overly liberal.)

 

[bblight]

xpanda - you and eek are both socially, and economically invested in your particular cultures. You continue to ignore the facts; even in the face of evidence that shows the direct involvement of the BBC in a fraudulent act that ended in the suicide of one of the participants, you continue to state that the BBC is "fair and balanced".

The BBC could change it's name to Pravda and you'd still belive the propaganda that it spouts.

You're marching lockstep to the party line and you can't even see it!

 

[Jointpleasure]

The left wing dribble never will stop, the audience is just more sophisticated now, no thanks to them.

 

[bblight]

Hey Bill - the problem is that the Dems have only one choice for a candidate in '08 and the Republicans have too many great choices!

 

[billthecop]

Yep, they will have their own "bush" on the ticket!

 

[lavastream]

You wing-nuts are too funny! I have one of the very few liberal media outlets in America! The "mainstream" corporate controlled media is so far from liberal you would have to be living in a dreamworld to imagine even the least conservative among them is "liberal". When CBS begins to refer to Bush as a "false President" or the 2000 election as being a criminal coup perpetrated by the Republican party you can truthfully say they have a liberal slant. Because thats the truth as liberals see it.

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[eek.]

Its actually interesting that you picked the Gilligan WMD thing, but I understand why you don't have a clue about it, since its British Politics.
The whole Inquiry was a massive whitewash by the Government, not unlike the original bloody sunday inquiry, which was a British classic.
As you can see by the huge number of replies to my post it was a major subject.

http://forum2.therx.com/showthread.php?t=184681&highlight=Hutton

The head of the BBC made a huge mistake by resigning over this joke of an inquiry, (which he realised with hindsight but I can't be bothered digging it up).

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This CBS thing is hilarious and fits right in with this complete and utter farce of an administration you call a Government.
The American administration lies its ass off over WMD and the 9/11 connection and the Al-Q connection.
Using these lies as a 'reason' it then illegally invades a sovereign nation in one of the biggest diplomatic and military blunders of modern history.
Tens of thousands die, and hundreds will continue to die weekly, week in week out, month in, month out.
Apparently this is good. :aktion033 :aktion033 :uzi: :baby:



The CBS documents, which only state what everyone already knows anyway, that Bush is technically a deserter, are bad. :deal:

 

[eltonio]

bblight

I have a real cool idea for you and you right wing friends. Turn off the television and turn on your radio. I think you'll be much happier listening to right wing media conspiracy theories. You seem to think that anyone disagreeing with this administrations policies is a left wing radical. Do you really think 50% of Americans stupid or misinformed? When will the Bush administration start taking responsibility for their shortcomings? Everyone else that disagrees with them is to blame, Bill or Hillary Clinton is to blame, or France is to blame, or the U.N. is to blame. They take no responsibility if their policies fail. It's always someone else's fault.

 

[xpanda]

xpanda - you and eek are both socially, and economically invested in your particular cultures. You continue to ignore the facts; even in the face of evidence that shows the direct involvement of the BBC in a fraudulent act that ended in the suicide of one of the participants, you continue to state that the BBC is "fair and balanced".

The BBC could change it's name to Pravda and you'd still belive the propaganda that it spouts.

You're marching lockstep to the party line and you can't even see it!

You do know that the BBC is British, right?

I've not once stated that the BBC is 'fair and balanced.' That phrase is strictly reserved for Fox News fans. What I DO often state is that media bias generally reflects the mood of its host country, regardless of internal party affiliations. CNN has an American slant, the CBC a Canadian slant, and so on.

I'm still waiting for you to explain this big worldwide conspiracy, though.

(small heads up, too .... I am a big fan of independent media as well as a big fan of reading all sorts of media, from all sorts of angles. I hit the FNC website a few times a week, watch CNN from time to time, watch the BBC and the CBC, and read the Weekly Standard, ADBusters, Harpers, EnglishAlJazeera, Commentary, and keep up with the American Enterprise Institute. You should try spreading your reading material around a little ... if nothing else, it's good to know what your enemy is up to.)

 

[PatPatriot]

Without Fox news the swiftboat vets,around 200 of them that signed sworn affadavits would have never gotten any publicity.And the day after they came out.CBS had investigators looking up parking tickets from 1970 on these guys.

But CBS has a whole 60 minutes piece on documents that were never researched and were from a guy who had spent his life hating Bush and spent a few stints in the home for the strange.
Dan Rather sticks to the story saying its true.
So he wants you to believe what is printed on forged documents...is he *CENSOR**CENSOR**CENSOR**CENSOR**CENSOR**CENSOR**CENSOR* nuts or what.How much more Michael Moorish can you get?
I guess next week he wants you to spend counterfiet money.



CBS has had four 60 minute shows dedicated to Bush bashing books.
The swiftvets have never been given 5 minutes, and they have documentation.

CBS is just another 527 for the democrats.Their ratings are in the tank also.Sponsors are also waiting to jump ship on what is the obvious outcome.

 

[xpanda]

Sure, and that is the market handling them. CBS SHOULD be in deep doo-doo over their mistake, regardless of where those documents came from or whether the White House gave them the thumbs-up.

But to talk about a vast left-wing media conspiracy is a freaking joke. You couldn't get that many corporate whigs to get together and plot to overthrow Bush. One of them would be sure to see a massive ratings opportunity and blow the whistle on the whole thing. What you have is media slanted to their host country, and it just so happens that a great number of host countries out there are predominantly leftist. Bawl about this all you want, but if the BBC changed its slant to be pro-Bush, it would be, in effect, committing suicide, because its viewers would tune out.

To flip this on Blight, since he seems convinced that the international media is being so hard on poor Bush, why not insist that Fox News be nicer to France and Canada? Bill O'Reilly has tried to boycott us a gazillion times ... well, that's not very neighbourly of him! Say what you like about our media, but I don't recall anyone outright declaring Bush to be a lying son-of-a-bitch, although I'm sure it's floating around their heads. O'Reilly (and Gibson, too), on the other hand, has no idea how to exercise such restraint.

Why this insistence that if the US is doing it, the rest of the world should be doing it too?? I thought you guys were supposed to be spreading freedom and sovereignty, not attempting to reign them in?

 

[PatPatriot]

We Are All Pajama Patriots!!

Except me. I'm in my underwear. (No flip-flops):howdy:

 

[PatPatriot]

Thursday, Sept. 23, 2004 12:33 a.m. EDT



CBS Affiliates Bail as Rather's Ratings Hit the Skids

It looks like even that anti-Bush bastion New York City has a limit to what it will tolerate when it comes to political attacks on the president, with Dan Rather's latest Big Apple ratings showing his forged documents smear crossed the line.

On Monday, a mere 135,000 viewers tuned into to Rather's broadcast on WCBS, the network's New York City affiliate. That's just half the number - 266,000 - who were watching Rather before a week before he acknowledged his Sept. 8 report was based on faked evidence.

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Tuesday's performance wasn't much better, with Rather's home-turf audience off by 37,000 from a week earlier, according to numbers gathered by the New York Post - a 14 percent decline.



In more bad news for CBS execs and shareholders, affiliates in other markets are bailing out on the network altogether.

Bob Lee, general manager of WBDJ-TV in Roanoke, Virginia, who also serves as president of the CBS Affiliates Association, told the Washington Post that he has heard from many stations and "we're all being battered."

WNIS-AM in Norfolk has announced that it is dropping its agreement to carry CBS News reports after 12 years, the Post added.

Station spokesman Dave Morgan said his station was switching to ABC because CBS's credibility has been "seriously damaged by the ongoing scandal" and "our listeners have clamored for a change."

CBS spokesman Dana McClintock expressed "regret" that WNIS "made this decision based on this one issue alone," but he acknowledged to the Post that CBS affiliates and viewers "deserve a better explanation of how this came to pass." Editor's note:

 

[xpanda]

It's a good thing you put this in bold, hyper-sized print ... you certainy wouldn't want to take the chance that this issue won't be highlighted enough. It is, after all, probably THE BIGGEST election issue so far.

:think: