the two most popular presidents in the modern era

[Willie99]

were both called "weak / unelectable candidates"

their qualities were a mix of "stupid, dishonest, unknown, infidelity, a bad actor, voodoo economics, a liar.........."

yep, good ole fashion conventional wisdom took two more ass beatings

Ronnie and Bubba not only won, they served two terms and a loved by their parties to this day

suffice to say, conventional wisdom is rarely wise. Furthermore, when using such, look around and see who your allies are, and think about that for a moment.

This is the word of the Willie

 

[Willie99]

look around and see who your allies are, and think about that for a moment.

a little elaboration may be necessary on my part, I may have painted with too broad a brush

a lot of good and smart people think Obama will roll certain candidates regardless of the economy, I respect their opinion. But when all the idiots are agreeing with you, and the moronic press tells you this in lock step. you should think twice

 

[SmallDaddy]

a. But when all the idiots are agreeing with you, and the moronic press tells you this in lock step. you should think twice

Just like how the right wing pundits elevated Reagan into sainthood

 

[snoop]

Willie,

I admire your determination, but I don't vote for the party and I certainly can't vote for a person who does not share my beliefs. I have made it clear on several occasions, when Nov comes, it's either Ron Paul or me, it's likely that I would vote for me.....Well unless the Republican party is willing to take some risks, it's not too late to throw the golden boy Marco Rubio into the ring. He is far better than any candidates , and he would wipe the floor with current Retard In Chief easily, IMO.

One the side note, latest poll indicates that Republican candidates are doing quite well against The Teleprompter in IA. It's relatively a small sample, it's a welcome news however.

Iowa Poll Shows 3 Republicans Leading Obama

POSTED: 9:04 pm CST February 18, 2012

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The latest Iowa Poll shows three of the four Republican candidates leading Presidents Barack Obama if the election were held today.The poll, released by The Des Moines Register on Saturday night, shows Texas Rep. Ron Paul with the biggest lead over Obama. He's up 49 percent to 42 percent.The poll shows Rick Santorum, who won the 2012 Iowa caucuses, with 48 percent to Obama's 44 percent. Mitt Romney had 46 percent to Obama's 44 percent.Both Santorum and Romney are within the poll's 4 percentage point margin of error.The poll shows Obama leading Newt Gingrich, 51 percent to 37 percent.The telephone poll was conducted by Selzer & Co. from Feb. 12 to 15. The election questions were asked of 611 likely voters.

 

[paftraft]

Jeb Bush looks like he's angling for the nomination via a brokered convention. He states that if Romney can't win his home state 'Michigan' he can't beat Obama. Furthermore he thinks Gingrich or Santorum would both lose over 35 states. He's either not confidant or announcing he'll serve if nominated at the convention!

 

[Willie99]

Just like how the right wing pundits elevated Reagan into sainthood

gee, no mention of Bubba receiving similar treatment? shocking

 

[SmallDaddy]

Not really.

Reagan is more popular now (especially amongst Republicans) than when he left office, Clinton is about the same

And if the same Clinton would (or could) run again he would still be welcome in the Democratic party.... not so with Reagan

Talk about revisionist history

 

[SmallDaddy]

BTW they are popular because they were on the "good side" of the greatest credit bubble in history. The last two are on the flip side

IMO if you switched the order. Obama, W, Clinton and then Reagan, then in your post would say how Obama and Bush are the two most popular in recent memory

(ok maybe not W haha)

 

[Willie99]

Not really.

Reagan is more popular now (especially amongst Republicans) than when he left office, Clinton is about the same

And if the same Clinton would (or could) run again he would still be welcome in the Democratic party.... not so with Reagan

Talk about revisionist history

how can you be more popular now than when you were in office and not welcomed today by the very same people that like him more now than then?

starting to sound like some other ur um ahhh lefty posters around here, one in particular

 

[SmallDaddy]

Reagan couldnt run on his record or he definitely couldnt win the Republican nomination.

(this has been discussed here plenty of times)

And yes your average Republican has been brainwashed into overlooking those things and to just remember the positives

 

[SmallDaddy]

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Polls/reagan_ratings_poll_040607.html

 

[snoop]

Jeb Bush looks like he's angling for the nomination via a brokered convention. He states that if Romney can't win his home state 'Michigan' he can't beat Obama. Furthermore he thinks Gingrich or Santorum would both lose over 35 states. He's either not confidant or announcing he'll serve if nominated at the convention!

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