The Truth about ParlayHelp

[KyleBales]

I'm going to make this real simple. If you check out the site daily and watch the videos you will see this. The truth that I got kicked off the site is not entirely true. I would not pay him more. Look at the site and watch the videos how he is always praising Top Shelf Chicago, has advertisments for payneinsider that he touts a lot,etc.. Why? Because they pay him.

Proof you ask?

Go back to when I first signed up. I believe he said I went 6-0 to start. I am monitored at other sites, go back and check my record there with the days he said, needless to say I did not go 6-0. I didn't say anything because hey, I was making money but when you don't give him a piece then he gets mad and rightfully so.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="right" valign="top" width="50">Subject:</td><td style="padding-left: 10px;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="left" width="100%"><select style="display: none;" id="tSubject1242762056" name="tSubject" preselect="view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=270" onchange="if (window.location.href.indexOf('/view.php') >= 0) {location.href=this.options[this.selectedIndex].value;} else {var folder = this.options[this.selectedIndex].value.replace(/.*folder=([^#&]*).*/,'$1');var uid = this.options[this.selectedIndex].value.replace(/.*uid=([^#&]*).*/,'$1');folder = unescape(folder.replace(/[+]/g,' '));Webmail.ajaxView(folder,uid);}"><option value="view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=269"><span id="viewminiflags|269|INBOX"><img src="images2/icon_reply.gif?v=Nwbe_4_14_25" border="0" alt="R" title="Replied To" width="13" height="6"></span> RE: 5/15 (info@parlayhelp.com) 05/15/2009 12:56 pm</option><option value="view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=270" selected="selected"><img src="images2/spacer.gif" border="0" width="9"><span id="viewminiflags|270|INBOX"> </span> RE: 5/15</option></select> <table id="dselect_tSubject1242762056_table" class="hand fixed" onclick="return false;" onselectstart="return false;" style="border: 1px solid rgb(126, 157, 185); padding: 1px; height: 15px; color: black; background-color: white; width: 275px;" onmousedown="if ( ! dsel['tSubject1242762056'] )dsel['tSubject1242762056'] = new Dselect('tSubject','tSubject1242762056','1','minwidth=275|autowidth|minimize|fixselectwidth|forcepreinit');if ( ! dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expandedDiv || dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expandedDiv.style.display != 'block') dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expand(); else dsel['tSubject1242762056'].contract(); return false;" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <!-- <td width="2"> </td> --> <td> <label class="hand" id="dselect_tSubject1242762056_clickable" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: black; text-decoration: none; font-family: Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif ! important;" title=" RE: 5/15" dir="ltr">

RE: 5/15</label>
</td> <td style="padding: 0px;" width="3"> </td> <td onclick="return false;" onselectstart="return false;" style="margin-left: 0px; background-image: url(/images2/selectbox_expand.gif?v=Nwbe_4_14_25); background-repeat: no-repeat; width: 15px ! important; height: 15px ! important; background-position: 0px 0px;" align="right"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <script>if ( dsel['tSubject1242762056'] ) Dselect.optionsChanged('tSubject1242762056'); else setTimeout("dsel['tSubject1242762056'] = new Dselect('tSubject','tSubject1242762056','1','minwidth=275|autowidth|minimize|fixselectwidth|forcepreinit');", 10);</script></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" width="50">From:</td><td style="padding-left: 10px; vertical-align: top;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>info@parlayhelp.com</td><td>(Add as Preferred Sender)</td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" width="50">Date:</td><td style="padding-left: 10px;">Fri, May 15, 2009 6:51 pm</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" width="50">To:</td><td style="padding-left: 10px;">admin@kylebales.com</td></tr></tbody></table>Kyle,
Your absolutely correct this whole thing is BS, unfortunately this whole situation was created by yourself. We helped you out from the start then you ignored my paypal requests. Our main objective here is to monitor the cappers plays for the users/viewers of our site. However, our website is driven by the users that in turn purchase the cappers services. You made money because of us. We are placed in the middle here because our users trust that we have honest and reputable handicapping services on our website. By allowing you to use this site as a forum to continue to conduct business discredits the sole purpose of this websites exsistence. You may pay us to monitor your service but when you don't scratch our backs it gives us the right to drag your name through the mud along the way. Not only am I receiving emails from the users of this site about what they are reading about this current situation but we are receiving emails from other partners on this site.


Whether or not you like the fact that we are stepping in on the forums, we have been put in the middle here and are forced to save face.


I understand if you don't keep funds in paypal. We have all used paypal and I personally know that it takes 2-3 days TOPS to forward money from your bank account to your paypal account. You advised us on Monday that you were transferring the money and it is now Friday, so what is the status here? If you do not plan on paying us or dont see the big picture here with our interaction, then please let us know so we can close the book on this situation. Im sure we all have better things to do.

Parlayhelp



What I paid for was monitoring, a direct fee. I do not feel I need to pay them anymore. I do not want and will not be a part of a scam monitoring service. They have already tried to ruin my name because I would not pay them more and that is ok. My clients know the truth. Yes I did a chargeback because I am getting scammed here.

I will not be replying to this post.

 

[RidgeRider]

Don't reply but we all know you had other sports handicapping sites with made up names. One was Tonybrunowins.com. Your a scab and a thief. Please go away and don't come back. You and parlayhelp.com were both scammers.

 

[jrk]

Is this the kyle bauges from years ago now u changed your name. I think u live in indiana somewhere and had 500 guarantee. And oh yea u fucked me also on that 500 bucks it was around 5 years ago. If your going to change it don't make it sound so similar

 

[RidgeRider]

Same guy from the 812 area code in Indiana. He claims he's from Vegas. Everything about the guy is a lie. Seems like the two scammers, him and the guy from parlayhelp.com named John were both in the scam together and now turned on each other. How funny!!!

 

[KyleBales]

More BS after I bought their buy one month get one month free package.

# 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - PayPal: Seller escalated this dispute to a Claim.
# 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - Seller: Kylebales.com paid $125 in form of a donation to our website for his Sports Monitoring service to be monitored/tracked by Parlayhelp (me) for one month and after 26 days he requested a refund after we have provided him with the service that he had paid for. Less than 1 week ago we advised Kylebales.com that once his service expired he would no longer be monitored by our website. As you can see from multiple payment requests from us he failed to do so and was advised that he would no longer be welcome on the site after his month of service had expired. Kylebales.com paid for a service (not goods) that we provided and do not feel that he is entitled to a refund of any amount.

 

[neverwonadime]

Well look, KyleBales is a fucking crumb, we all know that, and Parlayhelp has been full of these kind of guys, like the Bookie Basher,, etc. Why should this surprise us. When your winner of the week king is Bookie Basher, what does that say for your site?

 

[Sportsrmylife]

Let me get this straight. Kylebales.com PAID to be monitored at parlayhelp.com. Kylebales used a snake oil, scumbag, piece of shit marketing method of buy my month and if i lose I will pay you XXXX amount? He loses.....doesn't pay up and people report this to parlayhelp.com.

Parlayhelp.com then kicks kylebales OFF THE SITE for being a piece of shit? Andy KB wants to throw parlayhelp.com under the bus? Then KB tries to get a charge back from paypal cuz he SCAMMED others? WOW!!!

Parlayhelp is a monitoring service. When someone pays him for a month of service he doesn't know anything about the service. Given time the shit hits the fan like basher owning 2 sites at the same time, KB being a piece of lowlife shit and then removes them accordingly.

The fact that you tried to blame someone else for your scam is utterly disgusting.

stop your fkn crying...pay up to the people that you scammed out of your "guarantee" and leave this fkn industry to worthless piece of filth!!!!!!!

 

[RidgeRider]

Kyle Bauges, please just go away. Lay in some gutter in the slum you live in so we can throw some excriments all over you.

 

[ParlayHelp]

I will be replying to the post Kyle

I'm going to make this real simple. If you check out the site daily and watch the videos you will see this. The truth that I got kicked off the site is not entirely true. I would not pay him more. Look at the site and watch the videos how he is always praising Top Shelf Chicago, has advertisments for payneinsider that he touts a lot,etc.. Why? Because they pay him.

Proof you ask?

Go back to when I first signed up. I believe he said I went 6-0 to start. I am monitored at other sites, go back and check my record there with the days he said, needless to say I did not go 6-0. I didn't say anything because hey, I was making money but when you don't give him a piece then he gets mad and rightfully so.

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=50 align=right>Subject:</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px"><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" align=left><SELECT style="DISPLAY: none" id=tSubject1242762056 onchange="if (window.location.href.indexOf('/view.php') >= 0) {location.href=this.options[this.selectedIndex].value;} else {var folder = this.options[this.selectedIndex].value.replace(/.*folder=([^#&]*).*/,'$1');var uid = this.options[this.selectedIndex].value.replace(/.*uid=([^#&]*).*/,'$1');folder = unescape(folder.replace(/[+]/g,' '));Webmail.ajaxView(folder,uid);}" name=tSubject preselect="view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=270"><OPTION value=view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=269>RE: 5/15 (info@parlayhelp.com) 05/15/2009 12:56 pm</OPTION><OPTION selected value=view.php?folder=INBOX&uid=270> RE: 5/15</OPTION></SELECT> <TABLE style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(126,157,185) 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(126,157,185) 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; PADDING-LEFT: 1px; WIDTH: 275px; PADDING-RIGHT: 1px; HEIGHT: 15px; COLOR: black; BORDER-TOP: rgb(126,157,185) 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(126,157,185) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 1px" id=dselect_tSubject1242762056_table onselectstart="return false;" class="hand fixed" onmousedown="if ( ! dsel['tSubject1242762056'] )dsel['tSubject1242762056'] = new Dselect('tSubject','tSubject1242762056','1','minwidth=275|autowidth|minimize|fixselectwidth|forcepreinit');if ( ! dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expandedDiv || dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expandedDiv.style.display != 'block') dsel['tSubject1242762056'].expand(); else dsel['tSubject1242762056'].contract(); return false;" onclick="return false;" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><!-- <td width="2"> </td> --><TD><LABEL style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif !important; COLOR: black; TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" dir=ltr id=dselect_tSubject1242762056_clickable class=hand title=" RE: 5/15">

RE: 5/15</LABEL>

</TD><TD style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" width=3></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/images2/selectbox_expand.gif?v=Nwbe_4_14_25); WIDTH: 15px !important; BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat; BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; HEIGHT: 15px !important; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px" onselectstart="return false;" onclick="return false;" align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SCRIPT>if ( dsel['tSubject1242762056'] ) Dselect.optionsChanged('tSubject1242762056'); else setTimeout("dsel['tSubject1242762056'] = new Dselect('tSubject','tSubject1242762056','1','minwidth=275|autowidth|minimize|fixselectwidth|forcepreinit');", 10);</SCRIPT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=50 align=right>From:</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD>info@parlayhelp.com</TD><TD>(Add as Preferred Sender)</TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=50 align=right>Date:</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px">Fri, May 15, 2009 6:51 pm</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=50 align=right>To:</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px">admin@kylebales.com</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Kyle,
Your absolutely correct this whole thing is BS, unfortunately this whole situation was created by yourself. We helped you out from the start then you ignored my paypal requests. Our main objective here is to monitor the cappers plays for the users/viewers of our site. However, our website is driven by the users that in turn purchase the cappers services. You made money because of us. We are placed in the middle here because our users trust that we have honest and reputable handicapping services on our website. By allowing you to use this site as a forum to continue to conduct business discredits the sole purpose of this websites exsistence. You may pay us to monitor your service but when you don't scratch our backs it gives us the right to drag your name through the mud along the way. Not only am I receiving emails from the users of this site about what they are reading about this current situation but we are receiving emails from other partners on this site.


Whether or not you like the fact that we are stepping in on the forums, we have been put in the middle here and are forced to save face.


I understand if you don't keep funds in paypal. We have all used paypal and I personally know that it takes 2-3 days TOPS to forward money from your bank account to your paypal account. You advised us on Monday that you were transferring the money and it is now Friday, so what is the status here? If you do not plan on paying us or dont see the big picture here with our interaction, then please let us know so we can close the book on this situation. Im sure we all have better things to do.

Parlayhelp



What I paid for was monitoring, a direct fee. I do not feel I need to pay them anymore. I do not want and will not be a part of a scam monitoring service. They have already tried to ruin my name because I would not pay them more and that is ok. My clients know the truth. Yes I did a chargeback because I am getting scammed here.

I will not be replying to this post.

I feel that it was time to come in here and put an end to all this nonsense. It is amazing yet not surprising that Kyle would create this thread and post a complete and utter misrepresentation of the facts and change the wording of our correspondence and paypal dispute responses. Below is the string of emails that was sent to Kyle during the last week about this Guarantee matter that led to his removal from ParlayHelp. See for yourselves:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 5/15
From: info@parlayhelp.com
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 3:51 pm
To: admin@kylebales.com


Kyle,
Your absolutely correct this whole thing is BS, unfortunately this whole situation was created by yourself. Our main objective here is to monitor the cappers plays for the users/viewers of our site. However, our website is driven by the users that in turn purchase the cappers services. This user in particular purchased your services due to the fact you were monitored by us and in good faith thought that you would honor this guarantee if it were to lose. We are placed in the middle here because our users trust that we have honest and reputable handicapping services on our website. By allowing you to use this site as a forum to continue to conduct business in the matter in which you have displayed not only makes you look like a joke but it discredits the sole purpose of this websites exsistence and the honesty that we pride ourselves on. You may pay us to monitor your service but it does not give you the right to drag our name through the mud along the way. Not only am I receiving emails from the users of this site about what they are reading about this current situation but we are receiving emails from other cappers on this site that have either read about this in the forums and there are 3 cappers that this particular user (Tom) has or is doing business with and they are concerned as well.

Our users can no longer trust that other cappers on the site wont do the same thing by knowing that this situation isnt resolved, so not only do the users suffer by this but so do the other cappers on this site, including yourself, not to mention my business suffers as well. Whether or not you like the fact that we are stepping in to help one of our users get the money back that you guaranteed to them, we have been put in the middle here and are forced to handle these emails about your service, which is above and beyond just "tracking your plays."

After the game in question lost, you advised Tom that you would send him the money "NOW" if he didnt want the new guarantee, which he stated that he DID NOT. I dont understand how you can advise that you would send the money "NOW" if you dont even keep funds in paypal. We have all used paypal and I personally know that it takes 2-3 days TOPS to forward money from your bank account to your paypal account. You advised Tom on Monday that you were transferring the money and it is now Friday, so what is the status here? If you do not plan on honoring this or dont see the big picture here with our interaction, then please let us know so we can close the book on this situation. Im sure we all have better things to do.

Parlayhelp

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 5/15
From: admin@kylebales.com
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 2:38 pm
To: info@parlayhelp.com

I have been in contact with him. I don't keep funds in paypal, Once they are switched to my bank to paypal I will transfer to him. Personally I feel this whole thing is BS, He was given the guarantee as well the next day as I have it in my records. I consider your job to track my plays, that is it. That is what I pay you for. If you don't want to do just that then we can part ways right now.

http://www.kylebales.com/

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 5/15
From: info@parlayhelp.com
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 12:56 pm
To: admin@kylebales.com

Kyle,
What is going on with the resolution with Tom (charlatan). I have received 4 emails in the last 4 days that you are not responding to his emails after you had advised you were going to refund the $500. You have until Monday to make good on this guarantee that you are continuing to offer or we will have to part ways. We have never had this problem with cappers on this site and we cannot allow you to continue to use Parlayhelp as a forum to conduct this type of activity and cheat our users out of money that is promised to them. It has been a week now since this was brought to your attention and still nothing has been resolved. You collected $300.00 from this user for a monthly package to initiate the guarantee, I dont see what the problem is here.


Parlayhelp

​

​

 

[ParlayHelp]

Once again, complete and utter misrepresentation of the facts!

More BS after I bought their buy one month get one month free package.

# 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - PayPal: Seller escalated this dispute to a Claim.
# 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - Seller: Kylebales.com paid $125 in form of a donation to our website for his Sports Monitoring service to be monitored/tracked by Parlayhelp (me) for one month and after 26 days he requested a refund after we have provided him with the service that he had paid for. Less than 1 week ago we advised Kylebales.com that once his service expired he would no longer be monitored by our website. As you can see from multiple payment requests from us he failed to do so and was advised that he would no longer be welcome on the site after his month of service had expired. Kylebales.com paid for a service (not goods) that we provided and do not feel that he is entitled to a refund of any amount.

Here is the real transaction dispute log: See for yourselves once again.
<DT> </DT><DT>Disputed Amount: </DT><DD>

• $125.00 USD

</DD>Status

Your buyer has reported a problem with this transaction. At this time, we're deferring our investigation of this case.

What happens next
If we decide to reopen this case at a later date, we'll contact you to learn more about this transaction.
Supporting documents

Files (0)
You haven't submitted any files.
Faxes (0)
You haven't submitted any faxes.

View dispute comments

• 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - PayPal: Seller escalated this dispute to a Claim.
• 5/19/2009 07:11 PDT - Seller: Kylebales.com paid $125 in form of a donation to our website for his Sports Monitoring service to be monitored/tracked by Parlayhelp (me) for one month and after 26 days he requested a refund after we have provided him with the service that he had paid for. Less than 1 week ago we advised Kylebales.com that once his service expired he would no longer be monitored by our website after learning of some of his marketing techniques did not meet the honesty and integrity standards of our website. Kyle was afforded the opportunity to make things right in this regard but failed to do so and was advised that he would no longer be welcome on the site after his month of service had expired. Kylebales.com paid for a service (not goods) that we provided and do not feel that he is entitled to a refund of any amount.
• 5/18/2009 14:10 PDT - Buyer: I paid to get monitored but got kicked off the site for not letting him run my business. This is not the service I paid for.

View case history

• May 19, 2009 - PayPal: Email sent to seller
• May 19, 2009 - PayPal: Email sent to buyer
• May 19, 2009 - Seller: Dispute escalated to claim
• May 19, 2009 - Buyer: Dispute filed
• May 18, 2009 - PayPal: Email sent to seller
• May 18, 2009 - PayPal: Email sent to buyer
• May 18, 2009 - Buyer: Dispute filed

 

[pimpin-aint-easy]

This kyle rat has been cornered, pinned down and shot now. Haven't we wasted enough hot air on him? Why do we even listen to him anymore?

Why don't we all agree to just reply "f%$& off you scammer" every time he rears his broke ass head?

 

[mpacman]

All i can say about this thread connecting parlayhelp is a scam as well is quite a joke. First dont blame parlayhelp for the handicappers on his sites, the entire purpose of his site is to monitor these handicappers and show them the records of such handicappers. Reason of having parlayhelp as the other party is to show the public that they're being monitored and not doing any NUmber jockeying. But beside we as a public, choosed to bought the handicappers service and we didn't get force to purchase such service. If there is such dispute it should be between the client and the handicapper and PARLAY HELP GOT nothing to do with it. It seems to look like John from parlayhelp is being your DAD if the kid is being bullied at.(<)<

 

[Sportsrmylife]

All i can say about this thread connecting parlayhelp is a scam as well is quite a joke. First dont blame parlayhelp for the handicappers on his sites, the entire purpose of his site is to monitor these handicappers and show them the records of such handicappers. Reason of having parlayhelp as the other party is to show the public that they're being monitored and not doing any NUmber jockeying. But beside we as a public, choosed to bought the handicappers service and we didn't get force to purchase such service. If there is such dispute it should be between the client and the handicapper and PARLAY HELP GOT nothing to do with it. It seems to look like John from parlayhelp is being your DAD if the kid is being bullied at.(<)<

I disagree with you. If one of the services is SCAMMING someone...you are telling me that you would feel better about being a client that scams people and parlayhelp simply looks the other way? I take it you are one of kyle bales butt buddies or kyle bales himself with another account. The fact that John is stepping in is going to give him credibility for customers to know that if something shady starts to happen that service will be removed.

How many ghosts are you going to create KYLE...you lazy piece of sht!!!!

 

[pimpin-aint-easy]

Kyle the big time capper crying over $125.

Time to go back to stealing playstations from fellow red necks and then "selling" them over ebay.

See you next time as Karl Bauges...

 

[mpacman]

I disagree with you. If one of the services is SCAMMING someone...you are telling me that you would feel better about being a client that scams people and parlayhelp simply looks the other way? I take it you are one of kyle bales butt buddies or kyle bales himself with another account. The fact that John is stepping in is going to give him credibility for customers to know that if something shady starts to happen that service will be removed.

How many ghosts are you going to create KYLE...you lazy piece of sht!!!!

No, i hella not Kyle or any buddies of him, if u read what i wrote im not defending Kylebales, im just defending PARLAYHELP which it says in this thread people a scam? How in the world a monitoring sites become a scam?
I had so much respect in Parlay that turns to the point that he kicked Kyle out of his site.

 

[smallunits]

they are both scammers and both have ghosts in here...how many guys have more than 100 posts? 2 fuck em both

 

[mpacman]

your face looks like a scum, o ya your're small units, the defendant of the BASHER or the BASHER himself? y u left parlayhelp, number JOCKEYING?@)

 

[coffeecakes]

I have Kyle real information. If anyone wants his personal information and would like to get there money back PM me and I will send you everything.

 

[Noodles]

Just a Bump for the Fraudster that is Kyle Bales the Jack Bag!!!

 

[TeddyTed]

Kyle bales is a piece of shit!