The truth about "Butch Butcheson"

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Watch how fast this post gets deleted from here or sent to the Rubber Room.

I'm now banned as "Butch Butcheson"/"Butch One" from the forum, no biggie there, but my posts haven't been deleted. So I see no further obligation to partake in their little coverup as it involved me

After Frank's rigged PoW win, I left the forum. That's old news. I then emailed Shrink, asking him to have my posts removed. Shrink replied as follows:

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From THE SHRINK Tue Jul 16 05:35:35 2002

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To: "Butch Butcheson" <butcheson@yahoo.com>
From: "THE SHRINK" <shrink@theprescription.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
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Butch,

Can you please tell me why you would like this done?

I was evaluating you for a job and you are on your way.

Please explain...

Thanks,
Ken


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I emailed him back, saying that I thought it was unfair that the PoW ballot stuffing was allowed. His reply:

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From THE SHRINK Tue Jul 16 09:58:10 2002
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To: "Butch Butcheson" <butcheson@yahoo.com>
From: "THE SHRINK" <shrink@theprescription.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Request
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i decided it was unfair too so I called up rio and got you an account
as a
co winner...
can I announce that?


>Ken,

>I found it interesting that in the POW contest of a
>week ago, three moderators voted for Skyweasel, which
>were enough for him to beat me by two votes. This
>week, Frank has 18 friends/clones come in and vote for
>him. You vote for me early in the mornnig---and in 40
>more minutes the contest is closed and then awarded
>to Frank, again by two votes. Was the idea to keep me
>posting week after week in hopes of winning the $250?
> Frank has friends come over and/or makes his own
>clones so that he can win. It's allowed to stand.
>Peep even joked about it on Frank's website.
>http://www.free-picks.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000127
>Five or six people question that decision. Not one
>comment is made by the moderators.

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I replied that he could if he wanted, but that money wasn't the issue here and that my coming back just because of a free account wouldn't look right. He then emailed me as per below, asking me to chat on the phone.

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To: "Butch Butcheson" <butcheson@yahoo.com>
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i chat better on phone..

can u call me or vice versa?

my number is 757-432-9922

thanks,
Ken



>You may do so if you want. But if I came back to Rx
>after getting that, it would make me look like that's
>all I wanted, so be aware in advance that it's not
>likely that I'm returning. It's not the money that's
>at issue here, although I appreciate the gesture.
>
>Butch
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On the phone, Shrink said that he wanted to hire me to work for Rx. My function was simple: I was to go on writing my stories and articles, replying to things in Offshore, but the main reason I was hired was to stir up as much controversy as I could. I was to be provacative. In return for that, I was put on a monthly salary. The idea was to get hits and bring readers to offshore by whatever means was necessary. He also said that since the idea was for me to stir up sh*t, it would be better if nobody knew that I was being paid to do it. That made sense, so I agreed.

On the 21st, I was nominated for the Poster of the week contest by several people. I was told by Peep that I couldn't win the contest that week because I 'wasn't well liked enough. He said that it would go over better if RPM were given the award, and that if I withdrew, the flack would be good for business. There wasn't much I could do about it, so by orders, I withdrew.

One thing the bothered me right away was that certain posters were allowed to flame me freely in offshore. I suspected that this was part of the Rx plan to generate hits. So I emailed Peep to discuss the issue. His reply, along with my original email, follows:

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From Carl Wed Jul 24 22:49:52 2002

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From: "Carl" <person4762388@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Braveheart and other things.
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flaming goes with the territory.

leave and return sounds good. some tantrums would work too.

Later,

Carl


> I got booted from the chatroom by Braveheart, and I
> hadn't even typed anything yet.
> What's the deal with letting the trolls flame me in Offshore?
>
> I see that our hit-count seems to be down this
> morning, and I think I know why. It's time to give
> it
> a boost by the leave-return routine.
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I dismissed it as a tactic by Peep to generate more hits. I asked Shrink about it, and he said that he'd talk to Peep about it. He told me that he was happy with my work, and that I was to go on generating interest in Offshore by the stories, articles, and provcative comments.

So my job was to post stories, a few technical things, and to stir up as much sh*t as I could.

I was nominated on the 28th for PoW again. Again, Peep told me that I couldn't win it. I flat refused to withdraw again. instantly thereafter, 'nightshade' appeared to flame Jake Thompson, another nominee. So Peep 'decided' on the 29th that Jake should win.


I was starting to smell a large rat. Things didn't jive. So I phoned Shrink and asked if he was keeping me for another month. He said yes, that my work was fine, and that the next day he would send me the money overnight. The US Post Office overnight envelope arrived on the 30th....half the amount of what he said he'd send. Right there, I knew something was up. I emailed him and asked. No answer.

Then I logged onto Rx and saw all the sh*t with the changed posts. I don't even want to get into all that again, except to state that I didn't change them. It's easy, no matter what Peep says, for the admin to get access to any poster's account. I emailed both Peep and Shrink, asking what was going on. No answer. I phoned Shrink. He wasn't in, nor was he in the next three days. I got very wound up about it. Neither Shrink nor Peep made one comment about the altered picks.

Then all the implications about how I was mentally unsound started. I was plenty p*ssed, but I'm not mentally unsound. I was doing a job before all the altered posts BS, that job being to stir up things to get more hits. I sure as heck wasn't happy with Rx that I was being made out to be a fraud and a lunatic to generate hits for them. Peep disappeared, "Memnoch@RX" appeared, and then Peep reappeared to move that to Rubber Room----after it'd gotten all the attention it was going to get.

I decided to honor my committment per the money I was sent and post until the 16th, which would have covered what I was sent. But I was told by an attorney friend that I have no obligation to do so, given the circumstances, and that I might even have cause for a civil suit. That part probably won't happen.

I'm not KingCapper or any other clone. I had to make this name so I could post again. I have a good guess as to who KingCapper is, and I believe his function was to take over where I left off with the bullsh*t routines.

So that's it. I was paid all along, from the third day after the PoW contest that Frank won up until now. My job was to write stories and provoke people into commenting on things and get more hits for Offshore and Rx in general. And by logic, Shrink and Peep were also in on the coverup lie that I wasn't being paid. I would hate to think of how many clones a certain person is using here to stir up hits.

To prove it's me, anybody who likes can email me at my original email of butcheson@yahoo.com and I'll reply. Also, if it's denied by Shrink or Peep that these letters exist, they're still on the mailserver at Yahoo, and I'll be happy to grant a trusted person (Judge Wapner, Skyweasel, etc.) access to my Yahoo account to read them.

I'm tired of the whole business, and it's time to move on. And I'm sure that nobody here gives a sh*t, and that you'll all keep flocking to Rx to read more from the next troll hired to do the work I was doing.

Butch
 
When you sink to posting personal e-mails, you are about as low as you can go.

You lost the POSTER OF THE WEEK TO FRANK FAIR AND SQUARE.

You never got over it.
 
>So that's it. I was paid all along,
>from the third day after the PoW
>contest that Frank won up until now.
>My job was to write stories and
>provoke people into commenting on
>things and get more hits for Offshore
>and Rx in general.

This is just what "kingcapper" posted at F-P a long time ago...

So *if* this story is true, "kingcapper" is either Butch, Peep or Shrink... No one else could have known.
 
And I noticed you edited the one e-mail you posted and claimed was from me too.

You really are trash....
 
I am really worried for you bro. This is no longer funny,I think your having a nervous breakdown. Are you taking you medication?
 
He is posting edited e-mails, changing wording, and claiming they are from me.

I do not like it.

He has been having "breakdowns" since he started here.

I am sorry.
 
Folks who vicariously live their *real* lives through the internet/usenet are to be pitied 'cause they are mentally ill.
 
"cecil
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I figured you would be quick to that one. How about answering wether you are paid to post? Thanks
posted 07-25-02 11:06 PM

Butch One
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You answer it for me.
posted 07-25-02 11:26 PM


cecil
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Butch
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I see, interesting...
And are you also paid to pick fights with other posters?
posted 07-26-02 12:11 AM

Butch One
Certifiably Crazy

Registered: 05-30-02
Posts: 1081
No, I pick fights with trolls for free.
posted 07-26-02 01:36 AM"



Looks like you are lying here Butch. You either lied then when asked about being paid to start shit or you are lying now...

I am starting to see a possible pattern here. The Shrink hires Butch to stir up shit, and has Peep be moderator...

And people expect this place to get cleaned up???

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It is tragic, and I put up with it here "as long as I could".

He does need help.

Is "KingCapper" still alive on your board? Maybe he can post there for a while or something.

I felt bad locking him out, I suspect it is "all he has", but when he starts changing thread titles to destroy the meaning of all the responses, time to give it up.

He knows he needs help, I hope he can afford to and have the sense to get it.
 
I think were wasting our time here. I think the only one that can save Butch now is a good theraphist
 
>Is "KingCapper" still alive on your board?

Yes, as far as I know... Only TRK/BBFever been blocked although he posts with another ID now.
 
I was not hired to be a moderator.

I was hired to do "Technically Peep" and offered to do ad sales and "Rx Poster Reviews".

I was asked to moderate.

I do not like moderating, it is a thankless job.
 
I know, and you are doing better all the time.

Just looking at the Shrinks motives...

Publicly he wants to clean up the place,

Privately...?
 
Actually, I have never heard him say privately (or publically) that he wants "to clean up the place".

I think he wants to have a great forum for gamblers to express their views and read articles, but "clean up", don't remember any such commitment.

This is a "dirty" business (on so many levels).

I do know he does take pride in his business.

I think he wants to sell a lot of ads and make a lot of money too.
 
I took "upgrade the quality" as trying to clean up the place.
Perhaps I was wrong, and he wants to turn this into a newbie haven...
 

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Shrink/Peep orchestrating a plan to generate hits
OR
Butch carrying out their wishes and denying monetary compensation.

This is some f-cked up shit.
 

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