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It's not even close in this cycle RC. We have a liar, an insane fascist who has no fucking idea what he's talking about or stands for day to day, and a normal, sane guy. In a sane place, the sane guy wins. In today's America, the sane guy just hopes to get on the debate stage.
 
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It's not even close in this cycle RC. We have a liar, an insane fascist who has no fucking idea what he's talking about or stands for day to day, and a normal, sane guy. In a sane place, the sane guy wins. In today's America, the sane guy just hopes to get on the debate stage.

You clearly don't even know what a fascist is.
 

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^^^He cockblocked what could've been a decent thread with his per usual verbal dairrhea.
 

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My problem with these libertarian candidates is they always pander to the fringe (legalizing drugs, military industrial complex conspiracies, gay "rights" etc.) instead of focusing on the big libertarian picture:

INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREE MARKET ECONOMICS
 

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^^^He cockblocked what could've been a decent thread with his per usual verbal dairrhea.
I actually posted on topic, FRINGY, not just a random insult to a poster that has exposed you for what you are, which is all you're reduced to lately. Go Fuck Yourself Hypocrite. And Go Gary Johnson.
 

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No "anti-war" rallies with a Democrat in the White House, Jane Guesser Fonda?
 

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You have to laugh at the idea that "FRINGY" would be a real burn in an adult conversation.

Whenever he opens his mouth and types his boring, off the mark repitition his debating opponent widens their lead. Guesser is the "PICKSIX" of this forum.
 

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Joe, it's "Does this dress make my ass look fat."

The response is, "No, your fat makes you look fat."

As punches reign down you then squeal, "But I love your big ass!!!"

And hope she bought some frozen vegetables last time she went shopping. You'll need those for your eyes.

Excerpted rom my book, "How Not To Bring Crazy Into Your Life (by never letting her move in)"
 

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My problem with these libertarian candidates is they always pander to the fringe (legalizing drugs, military industrial complex conspiracies, gay "rights" etc.) instead of focusing on the big libertarian picture:

INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREE MARKET ECONOMICS

The problem with these libertarian candidates is they are unelectable. :)
 

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Gary Johnson: religious liberty is protected in the Constitution

POSTED AT 8:31 AM ON JULY 30, 2016 BY TAYLOR MILLARD

One of the places conservatives and libertarians keep poking at with Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson is religious liberty. Primary opponent Austin Petersen blasted Johnson in a debate for answering the hypothetical question of “should a Jewish baker be forced to bake a cake for a Nazi?” Johnson’s answer wasn’t exactly libertarian, but was in line with federal law.Washington Examiner’s Timothy Carney cornered Johnson at the Democratic National Convention and pressed him on the issue (emphasis original):

Do you think New Mexico was right to fine the photographer for not photographing the gay wedding?

“Look. Here’s the issue. You’ve narrowly defined this. But if we allow for discrimination — if we pass a law that allows for discrimination on the basis of religion — literally, we’re gonna open up a can of worms when it come stop discrimination of all forms, starting with Muslims … who knows. You’re narrowly looking at a situation where if you broaden that, I just tell you — on the basis of religious freedom, being able to discriminate — something that is currently not allowed — discrimination will exist in places we never dreamed of.”

In a year when conservatives are being turned off by Donald Trump, do you worry that you’re turning off conservatives who might come to the Libertarian Party?

“It’s the right message, and I’m sideways with the Libertarian Party on this. My crystal ball is that you are going to get discriminated against bysomebody because it’s against their religion. Somehow you have offended their religion because you’ve walked in and you’re denied service. You.“


The answer didn’t go over well with people, including The Federalist’s David Harsanyi, whowrote Johnson is still wrong on religious liberty:

Many liberals and journalists distort the intent and scope of religious freedom laws, but a libertarian should know better. You don’t have to agree with the religious liberty proponents, of course. You can view religious freedom as ugly prejudice — something state-run justice commissions should monitor and forcefully expunged from American life. Plenty of people do. What I’m not sure of, though, is which libertarian idea justifies government policing thought crimes and undermining property rights? Johnson has yet to explain.

Mostly, though, I suspect that Johnson believes dismissing religious liberty and property rights in this case will endear him to the Left and expand his voting base. Many libertarians feel culturally in sync with liberals, and this is just the manifestation of that impulse. It’s a lost opportunity for Johnson to be both a principled libertarian and gain new conservative voters.


I reached out to the Johnson campaign and received this response from communications director Joe Hunter:

“The governor’s reference is to the fact that when you go down the path of legislating religious liberty, with the best of intentions, there is a very real risk of creating unintended consequences.

It is not in any way a suggestion that religious liberty and freedom is not essential — and protected in the constitution.”


I can see Johnson’s point, especially when it comes to the government getting involved in religious issues. There is a reason why the First Amendment says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” and the 14th Amendment extends that ruling to state and local governments. The government isn’t supposed to get involved in religious matters unless someone’s life, liberty, or property is in danger. The government’s failure to do this (see anti-Mormon laws or the Alien and Sedition Acts) is one reason why things are so buggered up with everyone racing to government to solve everything.

Religious Freedom Restoration Acts are something which honestly shouldn’t exist (or have to exist) because of the First Amendment and liberty of contract in the Constitution. One reason why they DO exist is because of, you guessed it, the government! The Supreme Court originally ruled on liberty of contract in 1902 with the Lochner case, which nullified a New York law mandating how many hours people could work per week, but completely reversed itself in the 1934 Nebbia decision.

Let’s not forget laws which established the Food and Drug Administration as a way to make sure the “government approves” your food, drink, and drugs. As the government keeps micromanaging our lives, more and more freedom will be taken away (even under the guise of “restoring it”). It’s possible Johnson is just giving in to fear of what might happen, as Reason’s Scott Shackford suggests, but there’s also the “Should the governmen-NO!” expression too.

One thing I wish Johnson’s campaign had answered is, “What happens when federal law runs sideways of the Constitution?” This is something more politicians need to think about before passing a law which “solves this problem” or “solves that problem.” It’s also something more reporters/commentators and voters need to think about as well. There are certainly people who believe the Constitution does allow Congress to address everything from port safety to gun control, and this is something those of us who believe in the “actual text,” have to fight against. It’s an argument which is going to go on forever (or at least until Thor kills Jormungandr).

Johnson is right in saying the government shouldn’t be legislating religious liberty, even if he and I appear to disagree on certain laws. I doubt his comments will appease those who seem unwilling to support him over the issue (and they do have a point). But his opinion is certainly a bit more nuanced than his opponents (and Johnson himself) are trying to make it out to be. He does need to work on his delivery of said opinion a little better, especially if he hopes to be on the debate stage.
 

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"Libertarian" Gary Johnson gets an 'F' on religious liberty. :>(

The Constitution (religious liberties and property rights) trumps any federal "discrimination laws"
 

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