I am also curious as to why you guys waste your time fighting with one another instead of making some good plays. I am sure you all are talented cappers and I am sure you were all successful at one time or another. So why do you insist on making it your priority to fight with each other. Let your picks do your talking for you. If you are up alot of units, no one will rag on you. If you keep opening your mouth, yet you can't win yourself, then you ask for shit back at you.
Actions speak much louder than words.
Money speaks much louder than Actions.
So go win some!
-MC
Actions speak much louder than words.
Money speaks much louder than Actions.
So go win some!
-MC
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MadCapper:
I am also curious as to why you guys waste your time fighting with one another instead of making some good plays.
-MC<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
MadCapper
The RUBBER ROOM is a shell of its former self.
It's very sad to see it destroyed to the ground.
I am also curious as to why you guys waste your time fighting with one another instead of making some good plays.
-MC<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
MadCapper
The RUBBER ROOM is a shell of its former self.
It's very sad to see it destroyed to the ground.
There were alot of flamers here and it was comical to read sometimes when bored, but when the posters getting attacked started fighting back, the flamers didn't like it.
No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, unless you want to write it off as entertainment.
Another reason is that the moderators started enforcing the "no flaming" rules in the sports forums and the flamers tried to twist it all around like we were favoring their victims.
Suppose a person started a fire to harm someone and a fireman came along and saved that persons life. The fire starter is mad at the fireman because he did his job. So be it.
[This message was edited by The General on September 23, 2003 at 04:07 PM.]
No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, unless you want to write it off as entertainment.
Another reason is that the moderators started enforcing the "no flaming" rules in the sports forums and the flamers tried to twist it all around like we were favoring their victims.
Suppose a person started a fire to harm someone and a fireman came along and saved that persons life. The fire starter is mad at the fireman because he did his job. So be it.
[This message was edited by The General on September 23, 2003 at 04:07 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
LMFAO -
You kill me man. We exposed the biggest frauds on the main forums down here. And you very well know who i am talking about.
The RX doesn't tolerate flamers, but they will open their arms to scammers -
. Makes a lot of sense Dude...
You might as well close down THE RUBBER ROOM , because it's a waste of good bandwidth.
Maybe you should set up a personalized forum for TheeRodFather
and The Panther on how to bet on sports..
No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
LMFAO -
You kill me man. We exposed the biggest frauds on the main forums down here. And you very well know who i am talking about.
The RX doesn't tolerate flamers, but they will open their arms to scammers -
You might as well close down THE RUBBER ROOM , because it's a waste of good bandwidth.
Maybe you should set up a personalized forum for TheeRodFather
and The Panther on how to bet on sports..
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vegasguy39:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
_No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, _ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
LMFAO -
You kill me man. We exposed the biggest frauds on the main forums down here. And you very well know who i am talking about.
The RX doesn't tolerate _flamers_, but they will open their arms to _scammers_ -
. Makes a lot of sense Dude...
You might as well close down THE RUBBER ROOM , because it's a waste of good bandwidth.
Maybe you should set up a personalized forum for _TheeRodFather_
and _The Panther_ on how to bet on sports..
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hammy - frankly you and your little games with these sportbooks are getting out of line. This my friend is coming from what was once a long time Hammy supporter. Of course since then we have seen this guy go ape shit on book after book after book. Always a huge meltdown with him storming around and bashing any and everyone who gets in his way. He gets so furious and worked up it is almost scary only to offer up an apology moments later if a book makes a concession to him. In my opinion that is all this whole thing was about. So before I get started let me say this thread will probably get ugly, very ugly. Hammy's style is to "make you pay dearly" for ever taking him on or disagreeing with him. As long as he talks about the case it will remain open, once he gets into a pissing war (which is sure to come if he doesn't get paid) we will shut it down. My contact was Carl Tyson at Sportbet, I also made phone contact with Ham 'n Eggs as well.
Hammy played in the casino and lost his $1400 dollars. End of story. He was caught in not one but several lies. At first he swore to IBet he hadn't played in the casino at all, then later he changed it to say he had played but only before the NBA game. Yeah right. After that misrepresentation he claimed he was in bed by 1023PM that night. RPM mentioned above he had posted here after 12 yet besides that I still have an e-mail from him that same night - 1123PM. Again another lie unless he was sleepwalking somehow. This is just the beginning.
Then according to Hammy some poor soul stole Hammy's money while he was sleeping. Yep, he had $1400 dollars in his account yet it disappeared. After the complaint was made Sportbet checked IP's numbers. From the initial Hammy deposit which was by credit card and where he signed up it was always the same IP #. They asked if he had a wife, sister, brother anyone else who lived there? Hammy said no. They compared it to the sportbook wagers, and then from there compared it to the IP # losing the money in the casino. Each and every time it was the same computer. Even still Sportbet told us here at the RX his IP # (before we told them what his was) and what they gave us again is the same IP # as in all the other action they had plus the same one he posts with here at the RX. If someone lost that money they must have done it while the sleepwalking Hammy was posting here and sending e-mails. Though caught dead to rice on both issues Hammy is not quitting yet.
After he was caught on this situation he then asked for and received a complete log of all the action on his account. A complete breakdown of the blackjack hands. Immediately he noticed some of the numbers on the breakdown were 36 and up. This was his latest attack on Sportbet, how could there be numbers like 36 in blackjack? Again Hammy is trying to find something to hang his hat on or where he can say he was cheated. Then he can demand his money back. He raised a huge stink on this only for it to be explained that aces show up as 11 on these sheets. Once again there was a simple explanation. Beyond this if he had not lost the money playing blackjack and someone stole it as he alleges why call them out on the numbers now? Like I said, it was one lie after another in this whole thing. It became obvious this was a case of what defense lawyers use, throw buckets and buckets of mud along the side of a barn and hope something will stick.
Throughout all this Hammy has made their life a living hell over there. He has called and raised cane, made tapes of calls and threatend the whole time of what a big case this was and how he had Sportbet's balls in his hands. It was up to him if he squeezed and if they didn't resolve it Hammy was going to be on them for the rest of his life. Though everything Hammy said was a lie Sportbet knew he was a poster here and decided to give him his money back just so they could get rid of him. Like everyone else it is becoming clear what kind of guy we are dealing with. They went ahead and closed his account yet GAVE HAMMY HIS $450 DEPOSIT BACK!!! Case closed right? Well of course Hammy accepts the money but now he has decided he wants more. I see he posted over at MW he would have accepted $1000 but the $450 wasn't enough.
Frankly this has gone on too much with this kid. If I have a say this guy won't be around much longer. It is one thing after another, he needs a break. He has tried to tarnish the names of many books around here. Sometimes he does it quietly through e-mails that never make the forums but several books can vouch for what I am saying. He has dug up old posts from 6 months ago and tried to go back and hold a book up to see what he can get. I liked the kid but enough is enough. He lied about playing, he lied about being in bed asleep, he lied about the IP #'s, he lied about using the casino, he has lied repeatedly in this whole thing and still got his money back but is not happy. Now he is setting up 800 numbers to slam Sportbet because they didn't give him enough money? Of course he is slamming the Rx as well because we didn't do the 48 hour mediation or respond back to his 30 e-mails the way he wanted. I told him repeatedly I would do it but he needed to relax, mediation isn't a 2 hour process. Right now he will talk of a tape where someone angered him and that is his latest excsue for all this. That is his "reason" now for wanting more money, all the rest has fallen off or been exposed by now. Sportbet to their credit on that allegation said it is possible someone got irritated at him and said something out of line, they have over 100 employees. Anyone that has talked to Hammy knows he likes to scream and holler at clerks on the phone. In fact Carl said if someone was out of line with Hammy he would address that, he wanted to. However this big issue Hammy has on a book has shown to be bogus to date. This case fell apart quicker than a Boston Red Sox bullpen and this rude phone call is all that is left now. When I called he wouldn't even share the tape with me so hard for me to comment on that. All Hammy kept saying was for me to tell Sportbet how much trouble they were in and how much hell he is going to cause them if they don't pay him more than they have now. Yawn....
Thanks Sportbet for coming forward with all the information. They have gave him his money back and booted him. Same thing I think is going to have to be done here. The ony thing Sportbet did wrong in my eyes was be classy enough to give him his mney back. I hope they don't waste any more time on this. I am sure he will be looking to split hairs here and find a cointrary statement but the facts are easy to see. I wouldn't have given him a quarter had I been Sportbet. I will step aside so he can tell me I am a sell out for not taking his side and we are defending an advertiser. I am sure the lines are well rehearsed and that is part of this intense pressure plan he has in store for us. The game is getting old Hammy and we are close to the end of playing it with you.....
Now, who is supporting scammers?
EOM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
_No problem here. Flaming is silly and serves no good purpose, _ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
LMFAO -
You kill me man. We exposed the biggest frauds on the main forums down here. And you very well know who i am talking about.
The RX doesn't tolerate _flamers_, but they will open their arms to _scammers_ -
You might as well close down THE RUBBER ROOM , because it's a waste of good bandwidth.
Maybe you should set up a personalized forum for _TheeRodFather_
and _The Panther_ on how to bet on sports..
Hammy - frankly you and your little games with these sportbooks are getting out of line. This my friend is coming from what was once a long time Hammy supporter. Of course since then we have seen this guy go ape shit on book after book after book. Always a huge meltdown with him storming around and bashing any and everyone who gets in his way. He gets so furious and worked up it is almost scary only to offer up an apology moments later if a book makes a concession to him. In my opinion that is all this whole thing was about. So before I get started let me say this thread will probably get ugly, very ugly. Hammy's style is to "make you pay dearly" for ever taking him on or disagreeing with him. As long as he talks about the case it will remain open, once he gets into a pissing war (which is sure to come if he doesn't get paid) we will shut it down. My contact was Carl Tyson at Sportbet, I also made phone contact with Ham 'n Eggs as well.
Hammy played in the casino and lost his $1400 dollars. End of story. He was caught in not one but several lies. At first he swore to IBet he hadn't played in the casino at all, then later he changed it to say he had played but only before the NBA game. Yeah right. After that misrepresentation he claimed he was in bed by 1023PM that night. RPM mentioned above he had posted here after 12 yet besides that I still have an e-mail from him that same night - 1123PM. Again another lie unless he was sleepwalking somehow. This is just the beginning.
Then according to Hammy some poor soul stole Hammy's money while he was sleeping. Yep, he had $1400 dollars in his account yet it disappeared. After the complaint was made Sportbet checked IP's numbers. From the initial Hammy deposit which was by credit card and where he signed up it was always the same IP #. They asked if he had a wife, sister, brother anyone else who lived there? Hammy said no. They compared it to the sportbook wagers, and then from there compared it to the IP # losing the money in the casino. Each and every time it was the same computer. Even still Sportbet told us here at the RX his IP # (before we told them what his was) and what they gave us again is the same IP # as in all the other action they had plus the same one he posts with here at the RX. If someone lost that money they must have done it while the sleepwalking Hammy was posting here and sending e-mails. Though caught dead to rice on both issues Hammy is not quitting yet.
After he was caught on this situation he then asked for and received a complete log of all the action on his account. A complete breakdown of the blackjack hands. Immediately he noticed some of the numbers on the breakdown were 36 and up. This was his latest attack on Sportbet, how could there be numbers like 36 in blackjack? Again Hammy is trying to find something to hang his hat on or where he can say he was cheated. Then he can demand his money back. He raised a huge stink on this only for it to be explained that aces show up as 11 on these sheets. Once again there was a simple explanation. Beyond this if he had not lost the money playing blackjack and someone stole it as he alleges why call them out on the numbers now? Like I said, it was one lie after another in this whole thing. It became obvious this was a case of what defense lawyers use, throw buckets and buckets of mud along the side of a barn and hope something will stick.
Throughout all this Hammy has made their life a living hell over there. He has called and raised cane, made tapes of calls and threatend the whole time of what a big case this was and how he had Sportbet's balls in his hands. It was up to him if he squeezed and if they didn't resolve it Hammy was going to be on them for the rest of his life. Though everything Hammy said was a lie Sportbet knew he was a poster here and decided to give him his money back just so they could get rid of him. Like everyone else it is becoming clear what kind of guy we are dealing with. They went ahead and closed his account yet GAVE HAMMY HIS $450 DEPOSIT BACK!!! Case closed right? Well of course Hammy accepts the money but now he has decided he wants more. I see he posted over at MW he would have accepted $1000 but the $450 wasn't enough.
Frankly this has gone on too much with this kid. If I have a say this guy won't be around much longer. It is one thing after another, he needs a break. He has tried to tarnish the names of many books around here. Sometimes he does it quietly through e-mails that never make the forums but several books can vouch for what I am saying. He has dug up old posts from 6 months ago and tried to go back and hold a book up to see what he can get. I liked the kid but enough is enough. He lied about playing, he lied about being in bed asleep, he lied about the IP #'s, he lied about using the casino, he has lied repeatedly in this whole thing and still got his money back but is not happy. Now he is setting up 800 numbers to slam Sportbet because they didn't give him enough money? Of course he is slamming the Rx as well because we didn't do the 48 hour mediation or respond back to his 30 e-mails the way he wanted. I told him repeatedly I would do it but he needed to relax, mediation isn't a 2 hour process. Right now he will talk of a tape where someone angered him and that is his latest excsue for all this. That is his "reason" now for wanting more money, all the rest has fallen off or been exposed by now. Sportbet to their credit on that allegation said it is possible someone got irritated at him and said something out of line, they have over 100 employees. Anyone that has talked to Hammy knows he likes to scream and holler at clerks on the phone. In fact Carl said if someone was out of line with Hammy he would address that, he wanted to. However this big issue Hammy has on a book has shown to be bogus to date. This case fell apart quicker than a Boston Red Sox bullpen and this rude phone call is all that is left now. When I called he wouldn't even share the tape with me so hard for me to comment on that. All Hammy kept saying was for me to tell Sportbet how much trouble they were in and how much hell he is going to cause them if they don't pay him more than they have now. Yawn....
Thanks Sportbet for coming forward with all the information. They have gave him his money back and booted him. Same thing I think is going to have to be done here. The ony thing Sportbet did wrong in my eyes was be classy enough to give him his mney back. I hope they don't waste any more time on this. I am sure he will be looking to split hairs here and find a cointrary statement but the facts are easy to see. I wouldn't have given him a quarter had I been Sportbet. I will step aside so he can tell me I am a sell out for not taking his side and we are defending an advertiser. I am sure the lines are well rehearsed and that is part of this intense pressure plan he has in store for us. The game is getting old Hammy and we are close to the end of playing it with you.....
Now, who is supporting scammers?
EOM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
Now, who is supporting scammers?
EOM<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
I am not going to get into a pissing war with you over hearsay.
My avatar has nothing to do with my point. Besides, you guys banned Hammy and obviously you have no intentions of ever re-enstating him...
Carry on Dude
Now, who is supporting scammers?
EOM<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
General
I am not going to get into a pissing war with you over hearsay.
My avatar has nothing to do with my point. Besides, you guys banned Hammy and obviously you have no intentions of ever re-enstating him...
Carry on Dude
Raiders no one in Vegas had not even one single nice word to say about you, that's right not even one. But you were called a pussy, coward, bitch and more that i can't remember. That a hint for you to leave forever and never come back. To bad you couldn't sum up some courage to show up and find out for yourself.
