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Just wanted to know if any other promoters were getting stiffed by Royal Sports or is it just me?
 

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autigar- Welcome to the RX.

If you trully are, yes you would be the ONLY one I would know of. Care to give specifics??
 

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I'm not a promotor nor do I ever want to be but Jeffrey and Roberto of Royal have sponsored a Breeders Cup contest and I have had absolutely no problems with them whatsoever.

HTRC

One other point, I have full confidence that all winners in this contest will promptly receive their betting accounts.
 

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I will be glad to give details...they are currently being aired at gambling911.com but if I need to air them here as well I will.
 

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You posted here, so you should air them here. Why should people go chasing this shit down?
 

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OK here goes...I have been a Royal promoter for over 4 years but noticed I was being slow paid starting in December of last year.By March it got really bad as I basically had to repeatedly call them and ask for my commissions.I visited in April to the office of Royal in Curacao and was assured by Roberto that this was a temporary problem and to not be concerned.At the same time I noticed many of the principals that I started with at Royal and had come to trust were beginning to leave for various reasons.As Royal continued to be slow pay and were in negotiations to be purchased by Olympic I advised my players of an alternative sportsbook that I recommended stating that I no longer could, in good faith, recommend Royal.This I posted on my website.I fielded numerous calls of players asking if Royal was OK and relayed my story but also stated that I knew of no players(nor do I to this date)who had not been paid.On September 25th I logged into my account at Royal to check my commission status and found my balance to be $5500.On Sept.26 when checking my account again, I was mysteriosly blocked from entry.I then called Royal numerous times asking for Roberto(CEO) and Kenneth(one of Roberto's minions) to explain the problem to no avail.On or about Sept. 28 Kenneth finally accepted my call and seemed perplexed by the situation.He checked it out and said that because I had advertised for another sportsbook and would not be recommending Royal that all of my accounts would be converted(stolen) to house accounts.
If this is'nt unscrupulous business practice then I don't know what is.I still have people I recommended, playing at Royal yet they are keeping the commissions for themselves.If you do business with these dutch pirates so be it but do so knowing the full meaning of 'caveat emptor'.Just remember Royal it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and only minutes to destroy one!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by autiger:
OK here goes...I have been a Royal promoter for over 4 years but noticed I was being slow paid starting in December of last year.By March it got really bad as I basically had to repeatedly call them and ask for my commissions.I visited in April to the office of Royal in Curacao and was assured by Roberto that this was a temporary problem and to not be concerned.At the same time I noticed many of the principals that I started with at Royal and had come to trust were beginning to leave for various reasons.As Royal continued to be slow pay and were in negotiations to be purchased by Olympic I advised my players of an alternative sportsbook that I recommended stating that I no longer could, in good faith, recommend Royal.This I posted on my website.I fielded numerous calls of players asking if Royal was OK and relayed my story but also stated that I knew of no players(nor do I to this date)who had not been paid.On September 25th I logged into my account at Royal to check my commission status and found my balance to be $5500.On Sept.26 when checking my account again, I was mysteriosly blocked from entry.I then called Royal numerous times asking for Roberto(CEO) and Kenneth(one of Roberto's minions) to explain the problem to no avail.On or about Sept. 28 Kenneth finally accepted my call and seemed perplexed by the situation.He checked it out and said that because I had advertised for another sportsbook and would not be recommending Royal that all of my accounts would be converted(stolen) to house accounts.
If this is'nt unscrupulous business practice then I don't know what is.I still have people I recommended, playing at Royal yet they are keeping the commissions for themselves.If you do business with these dutch pirates so be it but do so knowing the full meaning of 'caveat emptor'.Just remember Royal it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and only minutes to destroy one!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Were you an agent or a website affiliate ?
 

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I am a sports handicapper.I do radio talk shows and post selections on my website and via a 900 number.I recommended Royal to my customers so I suppose that makes me an agent(we used the term promoter.)
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by autiger:
I am a sports handicapper.I do radio talk shows and post selections on my website and via a 900 number.I recommended Royal to my customers so I suppose that makes me an agent(we used the term promoter.)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gotcha. Thanks.
 

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Somebody has to say this -- If you're such a good sports handicapper then 5500 bucks should be nothing to you and not worth fighting over.

...Tehn again, you didn't say you were a good handicapper.
 

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money is money, if he is owed this amount pay him. i don't care if he is bill gates
 

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$5500 was the amount WHEN I was last able to check.That amount could be over 20K by now but who knows I can't check it.And Bigbet you're right if it's only a dollar they still owe it and I would be posting that as well.
 

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How does the deal work? At what point do you consider you toes with them severed or d you expect to earn commision for the life of the customer's action? From what I understand so far they owe you atleast the 5500.


I think most of us only care about how royal is running the ship and not as much about the amount.
 

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Just like an insurance annuity I had a verbal agreement to be paid in perpituity just like I am with any other book.If stiffing a promoter is not a red flag as to how Royal is running the ship I don't know what is.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Somebody has to say this -- If you're such a good sports handicapper then 5500 bucks should be nothing to you and not worth fighting over <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I nominate that statement as the most idiotic post that I've seen on this site yet. Maybe you like getting screwed but most guys don't.

If the guy is being frozen out of his money, I, for one, would have some concerns about the business practices of this book. Maybe Royal can let us know their side.
 

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hanover, chill out bud, it was just a little dig at touts, a joke. If he's entitled to the $$$ then he should get it, period.

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Just saw where Royal is again trying to raise funds for their crashing sportsbook with a car promotion that no one will ever win. Just wanted to make sure no one else gets screwed by the king of Con artist----Roberto (CEO) and Royal Sports!
 

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autiger - Has Alister from CIGA responded to your claims yet? And have you submitted a copy of your contract and/or agreement?

CIGA is supposed to review claims such as these.
 

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