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The odd couple: NYC and GOP convention
Conservatives make most of Big Apple experience
By Sean Loughlin
CNN Washington Bureau
Tuesday, August 31, 2004 Posted: 6:31 PM EDT (2231 GMT)


NEW YORK (CNN) -- With his cowboy hat, oversized Bush button and slow, easy way of speaking, Wayne Turner is every inch the Texan.

The self-described "country boy" and "drug store rancher" from Waxahachie, about 30 miles south of Dallas, is on his first extended visit to New York City as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

And the Big Apple -- loud, crowded and chock full of outspoken liberals -- has given him an eyeful and an earful.

"I enjoy people-watching," Turner, 67, said. "And y'all have some of the most interesting people."

Turner's polite understatement underscores the inevitable culture clash that comes when one of the world's most liberal and ethnically diverse cities plays host to a Republican convention humming with thousands of passionate and committed conservatives determined to re-elect President Bush.

The city and the convention are something of an odd couple, a forced marriage in which both sides are trying to make the best of it.

Well, sort of.

This is, after all, a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans by a better than 5-1 margin.

Anti-Bush protests are part of the backdrop here, and there have been hundreds of related arrests. Signs declaring "Not my president" dot some apartment windows. And though Madison Square Garden and the convention host hotels offer Bush-Cheney memorabilia, sidewalk vendors hawk t-shirts with a less than charitable -- sometimes profane -- view of the GOP ticket.

Yes, Mayor Michael Bloomberg is a Republican, but as a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights and gun control, he has little in common with his brethren who write the party platform, which takes conservative stances on those social issues.

One headline in a political magazine summed up the GOP-NYC relationship this way: "Buyers' Remorse."

Carol "Bucky" Smith, another proud member of the Texas delegation, said she's enjoying her experience in the city, but she acknowledged being baffled by her party's choice to hold the convention here.

"It sounded kind of stupid," she said with a laugh, recalling her reaction to the site selection. "It doesn't make sense."

Some delegates say they've had unpleasant sidewalk encounters with New Yorkers who sound off on their views of the Bush administration. Several told of being yelled at as they have taken in the city sights, whether it's a Broadway show or a tour of Central Park.

"I like New York," said Linda Jo Poole of Macon, Georgia. "But I'm a little bit taken aback by the protesters."

But other delegates spoke warmly of the hospitality extended by the police and hotel staffs. And if New Yorkers are brash and bold, well, several delegates said, that's part of the New York experience.

"You just have to appreciate the excitement and the differences here," said Toni Anne Dashiell, a delegate from San Antonio, Texas.

Despite the difference in politics, many delegates spoke of an affection for New York, one they say flowered in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

"New York was a foreign place for many people in the hinterlands," said Marty Connors, state chairman of the Alabama Republican Executive Committee. "But New York became the emotional capital after 9/11. You just can't forget what happened here."

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Kinda kills me that Dems outnumber Repubs (according to this article) 5 to 1 in the city Republican former and current mayor, Guliani and Bloomberg declare the greatest city in the world.

Even more ironic is that the RNC is being held there. especially when NY Firefighters Union who suffered more as a group than anyone during 9/11 supports Kerry. Of course this is after current Bush Admin deliberately downplayed dangers to firefighters' health during the post 9/11 clean-up.

Gotta admire the way they'll exploit national tragedy to further their ill-fated adventures.
 

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Hey mudbone - New York knows a good thing when they see it - that's why they've had Republican mayors for the last 10 or 12 years - Republicans get things done while Democrats talk about how the Republicans did it wrong!
 

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awww

I was reading that the Doubletree Hotel has pulled Heinz ketchup from its tables so as to not offend all the poor old dears attending the GOP rally.

If you're a devil worshipping Democrat and want Heinz ketchup, you'll get it in a little dish with a spoon.
 

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No thats just the heart of a leader.He takes the fight right to the heart of the democrats stronghold....And its paying huge divedends.
Kerrys campign is disintegrating like the straw man that he is.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
No thats just the heart of a leader.He takes the fight right to the heart of the democrats stronghold....And its paying huge divedends.
Kerrys campign is disintegrating like the straw man that he is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. It's just basic consumer behaviour -- image associations, product placement, target market segmentation, yada yada. Say War on Terror in the Place That Started It All and the masses eat that shit up. Marketing 101.
 

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Jesus xpanda - that's typical of you Democrat supporting liberals - If your side does it, it's inovative and original thought; if the other side does it, it's a lucky mistake or simple "Marketing 101".

Gimmee a break! Kerry is down in the polls about 5 to 10% - and it's getting worse - The Dems are a bunch of people who hate Bush and would ride any horse if they thought it could win! Well, your horse is carrying a ton of old baggage and it's weighing him down - and he can't get rid of it!

Right now, I'm starting to think "sweep" - and the way it's going right now - I could be right.

I Know, I know! If Bush wins it will be because of some lucky move, and not some working strategy!
 

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I'm not a "Democrat supporting liberal" by any stretch, and I'm not bitching about what the Repubs are doing, nor did I not notice it when the Dems were doing it (marketing, that is.)

So calm yourself down. It was a basic observation of basic political tactics.

And I agree that Bush will win this election. I also guessed the 10% margin about two months ago. Frankly, I have my moments where I think Kerry will be much worse, in that he will probably succeed in dragging the rest of us into this tarpit with you.

Doesn't change the fact that holding the RNC in NY is pure Product Placement, tho. I'm sure even you can see that.
 

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xpanda - so I guess you agree that divine providence is on the side of the Republicans?
 

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