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college basketball can be painful to watch, from the princeton offense teams to the careless turnovers that a professional wouldn't make. NCAAB is a snoozefest until the last few games of the conference season.

Disagree completely. I would much rather watch a game between people who give maximum effort and play with intensity even if they do make mistakes as opposed to 10 people standing around, walking up the court, acting like they don't have any interest in even being there. The NBA regular season is 100% devoid of any emotion or excitement. Honestly don't see how anybody can watch it. The emotion, intensity, give a damn, crowds, style of play (not nearly as much one on one isos) are all vastly superior in NCAAB.

NBA needs to cut the number of regular season games in half to give them more meaning. It's a shame cause I love basketball and used to be a fairly big NBA fan. But the current product totally sucks ass.
 

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Totally agree. Can't watch the NBA

I think I might have tuned in and watched about 5 minutes of NBA this season.

However, I don't watch much sports to begin with.

I really miss live jai alai, even though you can't win betting it. I just love the sport.
 

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nba ratings on tnt, espn record highs so looks like you guys are in the minority.

and i hate the effort angle. whats the difference between a guy not hustling and a jason giambi who has to take himself out of a game because he couldn't hustle to 2nd base.

i agree though, college basketball i prefer over the nba. college basketball over anything.
 

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Even when I have action, I don't watch the game that closely. I will usally just check the score.

Honestly, I always wonder how people pay money to go watch these games.

I can remember going to a Lakers game in 2001 vs the Chicago Bulls (horribulls) and we left about 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter. It is so boring.

Kinda nice to agree with you for a change !! lol
 

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games are fun live in person

No they are not.

NBA used to be good with Bird, Isaah, Magic, Jordan, Jabbar, Malone, shit, 1987 had 20 players in the league that went to the Hall of Fame.

What do we have now? LeBron, a hard to like Kobe, Howard, Chris Paul?
Chris Paul, they build him up to be like this superstar, when in fact he'd be an afterthought if he played in the mid 80's.

Give me a competitive NHL regular season game, I'd watch that before a round 1 NBA playoff game.

Today's NBA is nothing but a bunch of car jackers in shorts.
 

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Its a horrible product....I think part of it might be the officiating...I for one wont watch it because of that...I dont believe in star treatment...if its a foul, its a foul...I dont care who its on...and the attendance doesn't lie, look around some of these arenas...there is NOBODY in them....its just that the NBA is in bed with ESPN so they talk about it all the time....but in reality, nobody cares...if they had the NHL contract you would think the NHL is relevant because it would be on ESPN....they just control everything...you have your 4 or 5 franchises that have sellouts every night..but thats it....theres never any drama...significantly lower seeds dont ever win playoff series....+ all the allegations of the fixing and it being like the WWE....whether it is or it isnt' just the talk of it is bad enough....where theres smoke, theres fire.... just a few of my thoughts....

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Its a horrible product....I think part of it might be the officiating...I for one wont watch it because of that...I dont believe in star treatment...if its a foul, its a foul...I dont care who its on...and the attendance doesn't lie, look around some of these arenas...there is NOBODY in them....its just that the NBA is in bed with ESPN so they talk about it all the time....but in reality, nobody cares...if they had the NHL contract you would think the NHL is relevant because it would be on ESPN....they just control everything...you have your 4 or 5 franchises that have sellouts every night..but thats it....theres never any drama...significantly lower seeds dont ever win playoff series....+ all the allegations of the fixing and it being like the WWE....whether it is or it isnt' just the talk of it is bad enough....where theres smoke, theres fire.... just a few of my thoughts....

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thats your opinion, ratings would say otherwise.

i think the nhl is a horrible product, which is why it struggles to get a 1 rating. in minnesota where we have the wild, they are even behind the timberwolves in terms of coverage.

you like nhl, i like nba different tastes for diff people.
 
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No they are not.

NBA used to be good with Bird, Isaah, Magic, Jordan, Jabbar, Malone, shit, 1987 had 20 players in the league that went to the Hall of Fame.

What do we have now? LeBron, a hard to like Kobe, Howard, Chris Paul?
Chris Paul, they build him up to be like this superstar, when in fact he'd be an afterthought if he played in the mid 80's.

Give me a competitive NHL regular season game, I'd watch that before a round 1 NBA playoff game.

Today's NBA is nothing but a bunch of car jackers in shorts.

Check this lineup out:

<table id="post6974946" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td class="alt1" id="td_post_6974946" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);">1988 NBA All-Star Game Box Score

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East 138, West 133

Location: Chicago Stadium, Chicago, IL
MVP: Michael Jordan
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<table class="sortable stats_table" id="East"> <thead> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" align="left">Player</th> <th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" onmouseover="Tip('Team')" align="left">Tm</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Minutes Played')" align="right">MP</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goals')" align="right">FG</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goal Attempts')" align="right">FGA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goal Percentage')" align="right">FG%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goals')" align="right">3P</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goal Attempts')" align="right">3PA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goal Percentage')" align="right">3P%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throws')" align="right">FT</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throw Attempts')" align="right">FTA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throw Percentage')" align="right">FT%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Offensive Rebounds')" align="right">ORB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Defensive Rebounds')" align="right">DRB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Total Rebounds')" align="right">TRB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Assists')" align="right">AST</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Steals')" align="right">STL</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Blocks')" align="right">BLK</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Turnovers')" align="right">TOV</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Personal Fouls')" align="right">PF</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Points')" align="right">PTS</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Bird,Larry" align="left">Larry Bird</td> <td align="left">BOS</td> <td csk="32.00" align="right">32</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">.250</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">6</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Wilkins,Dominique" align="left">Dominique Wilkins</td> <td align="left">ATL</td> <td csk="30.00" align="right">30</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">.545</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">.833</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">29</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Jordan,Michael" align="left">Michael Jordan</td> <td align="left">CHI</td> <td csk="29.00" align="right">29</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">.739</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">40</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Thomas,Isiah" align="left">Isiah Thomas</td> <td align="left">DET</td> <td csk="28.00" align="right">28</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">.400</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">8</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Malone,Moses" align="left">Moses Malone</td> <td align="left">WSB</td> <td csk="22.00" align="right">22</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">.333</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Ainge,Danny" align="left">Danny Ainge</td> <td align="left">BOS</td> <td csk="19.00" align="right">19</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">.364</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">.750</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Ewing,Patrick" align="left">Patrick Ewing</td> <td align="left">NYK</td> <td csk="16.00" align="right">16</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">9</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Rivers,Doc" align="left">Doc Rivers</td> <td align="left">ATL</td> <td csk="16.00" align="right">16</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">.455</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">9</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Daugherty,Brad" align="left">Brad Daugherty</td> <td align="left">CLE</td> <td csk="15.00" align="right">15</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">.857</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Barkley,Charles" align="left">Charles Barkley</td> <td align="left">PHI</td> <td csk="15.00" align="right">15</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">.250</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">.000</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="McHale,Kevin" align="left">Kevin McHale</td> <td align="left">BOS</td> <td csk="14.00" align="right">14</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">.000</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Cheeks,Maurice" align="left">Maurice Cheeks</td> <td align="left">PHI</td> <td csk="4.00" align="right">4</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class="bold_text stat_total"> <td align="left">Team Totals</td> <td align="left">
</td> <td align="right">240</td> <td align="right">54</td> <td align="right">104</td> <td align="right">.519</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">.600</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">.711</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">52</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">138</td> </tr> </tfoot> </table>
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<table class="sortable stats_table" id="West"> <thead> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" align="left">Player</th> <th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" onmouseover="Tip('Team')" align="left">Tm</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Minutes Played')" align="right">MP</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goals')" align="right">FG</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goal Attempts')" align="right">FGA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Field Goal Percentage')" align="right">FG%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goals')" align="right">3P</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goal Attempts')" align="right">3PA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('3-Point Field Goal Percentage')" align="right">3P%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throws')" align="right">FT</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throw Attempts')" align="right">FTA</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Free Throw Percentage')" align="right">FT%</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Offensive Rebounds')" align="right">ORB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Defensive Rebounds')" align="right">DRB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Total Rebounds')" align="right">TRB</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Assists')" align="right">AST</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Steals')" align="right">STL</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Blocks')" align="right">BLK</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Turnovers')" align="right">TOV</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Personal Fouls')" align="right">PF</th> <th class="tooltip" onmouseover="Tip('Points')" align="right">PTS</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Johnson,Magic" align="left">Magic Johnson</td> <td align="left">LAL</td> <td csk="39.00" align="right">39</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">.267</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">.000</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">17</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Malone,Karl" align="left">Karl Malone</td> <td align="left">UTA</td> <td csk="33.00" align="right">33</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">.474</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">.800</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">22</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Lever,Fat" align="left">Fat Lever</td> <td align="left">DEN</td> <td csk="31.00" align="right">31</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">.750</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">17</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Olajuwon,Hakeem" align="left">Hakeem Olajuwon</td> <td align="left">HOU</td> <td csk="28.00" align="right">28</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">.615</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">.714</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">21</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="English,Alex" align="left">Alex English</td> <td align="left">DEN</td> <td csk="22.00" align="right">22</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">10</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Drexler,Clyde" align="left">Clyde Drexler</td> <td align="left">POR</td> <td csk="15.00" align="right">15</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">.600</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">.000</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Abdul-Jabbar,Kareem" align="left">Kareem Abdul-Jabbar</td> <td align="left">LAL</td> <td csk="14.00" align="right">14</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">.444</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">10</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Worthy,James" align="left">James Worthy</td> <td align="left">LAL</td> <td csk="13.00" align="right">13</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">.250</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">.000</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="McDaniel,Xavier" align="left">Xavier McDaniel</td> <td align="left">SEA</td> <td csk="13.00" align="right">13</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">.111</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Aguirre,Mark" align="left">Mark Aguirre</td> <td align="left">DAL</td> <td csk="12.00" align="right">12</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">.500</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">.333</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">14</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Robertson,Alvin" align="left">Alvin Robertson</td> <td align="left">SAS</td> <td csk="12.00" align="right">12</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">.333</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class=""> <td csk="Donaldson,James" align="left">James Donaldson</td> <td align="left">DAL</td> <td csk="8.00" align="right">8</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">
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</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1.000</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr style="" onmouseover="hl(this);" onmouseout="uhl(this);" class="bold_text stat_total"> <td align="left">Team Totals</td> <td align="left">
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14 of the greatest players of all time in one game:

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Jordan
Thomas
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If the NBA was that entertaining, they wouldn't need music while the ball is in play. Teams play it because they recognize how dead their arenas would be if they had to rely on crowd noise alone.
 

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I don't know how you bet on these over paid jocks as well. Some games they play, and some they don't. You can cap teams based on talent but when the effort is not there everything is out the window. When you go to these games you can see the players looking up in the stands figuring out which broad they will be banging later in the night. Whatever side of a Pacer game I was on last year, it was wrong. A big thanks to them though as it weaned me off wagering on these NBA clowns for good! You can have your league Stern and I hope you get what you and the players union deserve real soon.
 

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I don't know how you bet on these over paid jocks as well. Some games they play, and some they don't. You can cap teams based on talent but when the effort is not there everything is out the window. When you go to these games you can see the players looking up in the stands figuring out which broad they will be banging later in the night. Whatever side of a Pacer game I was on last year, it was wrong. A big thanks to them though as it weaned me off wagering on these NBA clowns for good! You can have your league Stern and I hope you get what you and the players union deserve real soon.

So true.

I remember asking Jahidi White if he cared that he wasn't getting playing time, he said "Nope"
 

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IDK, this Wizards / Celtics game on TNT has been pretty good

I will take your word for it. I just can't watch this crap. I can remember betting sizeable amounts on the NBA and still not watching the game. I would check the score every few minutes.
 

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thats your opinion, ratings would say otherwise.

i think the nhl is a horrible product, which is why it struggles to get a 1 rating. in minnesota where we have the wild, they are even behind the timberwolves in terms of coverage.

you like nhl, i like nba different tastes for diff people.

Im with you on the different tastes for different people....I use to love hockey...I am not into it anymore....its garbage....but then again, Im old shcool...I miss the hitting and fighting...I do watch hockey when the playoffs start...as far as Im concerned, thats when the season starts....in the NBA Im not talking about tv ratings...Im talking about actual fans in the stands...I dont have the numbers, but I bet NBA attendance for a non elite franchise are comparable to each other....take your Wolves and Wild for instance, I bet the attendance is about the same, heck, the Wild may even outdraw the T-wolves, and I bet the hockey ticket costs more....again, Im not talking about tv ratings...and if you like the NBA...Great....its just not my thing...but then again, being a sports junkie that I am, Im really losing interest in all sports for some reason....and I dont even know why.....

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Gotta agree, seems like they only care to give some real effort the last 7-8 minutes of the game. Aside from a playoff game I'd rather watch college 9 times out of 10.
 

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If the NBA was that entertaining, they wouldn't need music while the ball is in play. Teams play it because they recognize how dead their arenas would be if they had to rely on crowd noise alone.

My thoughts exactly. The crowds are so dead. If two of the top teams are playing, I might watch the last few minutes.

The atmosphere of a big match-up in college basketball makes it so much more entertaining.

I find it interesting that, anytime one of these types of threads pops up, gtc08 is the only one defending the NBA.
 

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I like what Kevin McHale said a couple of years ago.
He said:

"The game has changed in so many ways it's ridiculous.
Today, the opposing players hug a midcourt, when I played I wanted to punch Bill Lambier the second he walked off his team bus"
 

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the game is meaningless until the last 4 minutes

up 20, down 20, rolling or looking horrible, it just doesn't matter. The losing team is going to go on a run and the game will be decided late

throw in the fact that it's the worst officiated sport, and it is really a snooze fest for me
 

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