What in hell is going on.....Is this Country of ours going completely bezerk......? Then again, after thinking about it...Northwestern, located in Evanston, Illinois, a North Shore suburb of Chicago which is located in Illinois......one shouldn't be surprised at all. The article in the Wall Street Journal goes on to say the University plans to appeal the ruling..... how comforting.
This is a joke.
If the football players can do it, so can all the other sports. It's called, "Title IX".
I'll be curious to see how this goes. Most schools lose money within their athletic department. If they have to pay football players only they will have to cut other sports which will mean other men's sports because they have to have equal (or more) scholarships for woman's athletes.
I can't find the link/article, but USA Today (or some other major publication) put out a report a couple of years ago that only 20-something D1 programs MADE money.
If the football players can do it, so can all the other sports. It's called, "Title IX".
I'll be curious to see how this goes. Most schools lose money within their athletic department. If they have to pay football players only they will have to cut other sports which will mean other men's sports because they have to have equal (or more) scholarships for woman's athletes.
I can't find the link/article, but USA Today (or some other major publication) put out a report a couple of years ago that only 20-something D1 programs MADE money.
I agree Coach. People seem to think that universities are like Fortune 500 companies. Like there is a magic executive sitting in his office rubbing his hands together while making millions in bonus money while his university is also making tons of money off of their slave labor football players. In fact, it's just the opposite. Most of this money actually goes to fund sports that would not be supported otherwise, along with other student and school activities. I agree that there are a handful of bigtime schools making a nice profit, like Texas. But if it was the same for everybody, how come there aren't 120 schools out there with 100,000 seat stadiums and state of the art locker rooms?
Ask Colorado and their athletic department how well that big profit margin worked for them. They had to join another conference just to get out of the red. Do I think these players deserve a stipend? I see nothing wrong with it. In fact i think they were headed that way before they got the union involved, and have now come up with this hourly wage crap. Now it's a different fight. Like Coach said, it's all about Title IX. I think with Title IX, the women will suffer the most. If a school has to pay play players to compete, they will make up by slashing the scholarships elsewhere, which means few opportunities for people. I could be off base on some of this stuff. But I believe these football and basketball players will get their money at the expense of others. That's usually how it works in the real world. You just have to be careful what you wish for in a big decision like this. You could easily see 50 FBS schools drop their football programs because they can't afford to keep up with the Joneses. And by the Joneses I mean the 25-30 bigtime football programs out there that are actually making a profit.
Ask Colorado and their athletic department how well that big profit margin worked for them. They had to join another conference just to get out of the red. Do I think these players deserve a stipend? I see nothing wrong with it. In fact i think they were headed that way before they got the union involved, and have now come up with this hourly wage crap. Now it's a different fight. Like Coach said, it's all about Title IX. I think with Title IX, the women will suffer the most. If a school has to pay play players to compete, they will make up by slashing the scholarships elsewhere, which means few opportunities for people. I could be off base on some of this stuff. But I believe these football and basketball players will get their money at the expense of others. That's usually how it works in the real world. You just have to be careful what you wish for in a big decision like this. You could easily see 50 FBS schools drop their football programs because they can't afford to keep up with the Joneses. And by the Joneses I mean the 25-30 bigtime football programs out there that are actually making a profit.
It's 23 teams (link) with a catch, some of those only see a profit or break even because of subsidies. If you check the revenue list, you could probably knock a couple teams from that list of 23.
Does it really matter that much though? Legit question because I haven't read the opinion. But I did hear that NW has said if the players try to unionize they won't recognize them as a union. So it means nothing, right? This is all foreign to me because I live in the south. Moreover, I live in a "right to work" state so we don't have to deal with bullshit unions.
I would think if a player isn't going to class or something along those lines, then the university has a right to revoke his scholarship and essentially fire a player. I was a member of a strong union for many years, but there are still rules in place as laid down by the company that the union had to adhere to. I saw people test and violate those rules. And I saw them walk away after being fired. And surprised that the union couldn't "save" them. But if the union agrees to the rules that are set down, they can fight for you, but there is only so much they can do if you violate them. The players will find this out if a union is ever accepted into the NCAA. My bet is the NCAA will rule that any benefits the union gets are improper, and anyone who receives them will be ineligible to play in NCAA competitions. I can also see this being tied up in courts for a few years. And the only people who will end up making money over this deal will be the lawyers.
Not only taxes in different states, but union laws are also different in many states. So you could see unionized players in one state, and non-union players in another state with Right To Work laws. If they vote to not have a union, then it won't happen. The one argument for these players that drives me bat shit is this notion that college football players are being exploited. That is a bunch of BS. Yeah, Johnny Manziel was really exploited. Just how many of those big endorsements deals would he have had without his 2 years of college football? I would say none. Yes, maybe one of those "special talent" players like an Adrian Peterson or a Jameis Winston could have been drafted out of highschool as NFL prospects. But those kinds of players are few and far between. Most every successful football player owes his career to the college game. And they know it. I know living here in Oklahoma, almost all of the successful players from this state who went pro, have come back home to their college towns/state to start their own businesses or work. Billy Sims isn't selling BBQ in Detroit, he's back in Oklahoma where his college roots are. Many people argue that the players are making the money for the schools. I think it's the other way around. Players come and go, but the fans still remain. I think it's the schools brand name that makes them the real money. You can disagree with that all you want. But the Notre Dame's will always be the Notre Dame's, and USC will always be USC. It's the brand name that attracts the players, fans and money year after year. Like I've said before here, I'm all for a player getting some kind of stipend. In fact it was on the table and the NCAA had been strongly considering doing it until this latest union/wage proposal. That was a game changer. And not for the better. I'm aware it costs money for these players to drive or fly back and forth to see their families, and everyday living. Heck, Barry Switzer used to give his players money just to do their laundry. But he didn't pay them $15 an hour! That's ridiculous. If they want players to make that kind of money, then cut back on the summer workouts and let them work summer jobs again like they used to.
another consideration i've not heard discussed is what would happen to the tax-exempt status of the athletic program itself...these same programs where over 90% of them are already losing money or breaking even. Also, if they're to be considered employees then these program would also have to start worker's comp plans on them putting them even deeper into debt. not to mention they'll be large enough that obamacare would mean they have to offer health insurance and players must pay for it or get penalized.
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Now that you brought it up though it made me think about the former Lions still around. Herman Moore, Scott Kowalkowski, Robert Porcher opened some restaurants around here. A lot of the older guys came to mind. Ill tell you that out of all the teams in this area, former Red Wings players stick around the most. There are a ton in the metro Detroit area and other parts of the state. Sorry to get off topic.
