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The other scenario is where you get the good thing, the Books will shorten the odds even more knowing the Mugs will take any price, try betting the other side and you get the knock-back.
Omni,
As you see, I have brought this point up earlier and once again I will say, its not about what other people bet, its what you consider the spread should be. By betting against the OSU line, some might consider you to be the Public play, which I am saying is rubbish.
The other scenario is where you get the good thing, the Books will shorten the odds even more knowing the Mugs will take any price, try betting the other side and you get the knock-back.
Omni,
As you see, I have brought this point up earlier and once again I will say, its not about what other people bet, its what you consider the spread should be. By betting against the OSU line, some might consider you to be the Public play, which I am saying is rubbish.
I will respectfully disagree and will continue to fade the public, and will continue to make money doing it. As Slim said, there is public money and there is public money. You have to know the differences and understand who is betting what.
If you do not follow or at least understand public money you are doing yourself a disservice.
Just my opinion
tn
If you do not follow or at least understand public money you are doing yourself a disservice.
Just my opinion
tn
Tomorrow's Newspaper said:
All very well and not too different to most posts, but unless you can post your unique theory on public money then what you are saying is a waste of time. As for you making money, I will not question, but its not from crap like fading the Public. Of course you can disagree, if you want to prove your point just say so, I am only too willing to prove you wrong in a test I thought of to pre-empt posts like yours.
winbet,
The most money that I have been making has been by taking bets of so-called losers. Yes, these guys do bet more often on favourites than outsiders. Yes, they do not do proper line shopping. Yes, they are sometimes chasing a line move. But still they are losing (>10% on turnover) much more than one can ever make being a world class handicapper and a good line shopper betting.
One if these guys just bet on the All Blacks. I gave him William Hill's price of 1.8 -9.5 (William Hill has a draw for -9). The guy is simply doing all wrong here. Without handicapping I can confidently say that there must be value on the Lions!
The most money that I have been making has been by taking bets of so-called losers. Yes, these guys do bet more often on favourites than outsiders. Yes, they do not do proper line shopping. Yes, they are sometimes chasing a line move. But still they are losing (>10% on turnover) much more than one can ever make being a world class handicapper and a good line shopper betting.
EXACTLYwinbet said:
One if these guys just bet on the All Blacks. I gave him William Hill's price of 1.8 -9.5 (William Hill has a draw for -9). The guy is simply doing all wrong here. Without handicapping I can confidently say that there must be value on the Lions!
acw said:
Whats the problem, your not going to beat every game, keep laying them prices and you cant lose. I lost on the White Sox last night, but I laid 1.3 (-335 US) after they scored 1 run in the 1st. The person who took that is as pleased as punch and will be back to the trough again tonight.:drink:
Judge Wapner said:
Excellent point Judge.
Week in and week out (we'll use the NFL as our example) books will always be heavy on sides and many of them will win at times and the vast majority of bettors will be pleased. Soley going against the "public" or we'll call it the "vast" majority is not a good thing without taking other circumstances into consideration. High profile games like Packers/Bears on Monday night will see a high number of Packer money....do I take the Bears? I'll have to do my homework before laying my hard earned money! I like to be on the book sides on the correct games.......Dolphins +6.5 at home against the Rams EVERYONE on St.Louis (not the only reason I'm Miami) lines drops +4.5......sharp move? I think so. Reason line moved? Not my money or news.......sharp money. Sharp vs "public"?? I think so. Low profile games......As Judge stated earlier there is public money and there is public money. I play against the vast, but finding the right game is the key. Like I said above books will be heavy on sides week in and week out.
Moon, I wish you posted more often. You always have something of value to offer. I agree 100%. Our gambling methods are very similar.
Moon, Tomorrow Newspaper and Judge..............we all have the same theory on how to bet and win. There is no need to convince others that don't believe in the system. We actually need the other types of bettor to make our ways be winners.
I use to be a public bettor many years ago.......year in and year out I would always end up on the losing side. One day someone threw the "public" theory at me and I tested it out and since that time on every year I've been winning.
I use to be a public bettor many years ago.......year in and year out I would always end up on the losing side. One day someone threw the "public" theory at me and I tested it out and since that time on every year I've been winning.
Lads,
As I said in my first post, there is no problem with your strategies as long as they have sound reasoning. Its obvious the potential in knowing live money or mug money, in fact when I was Bookmaking, betting live prices and laying them back to a list of clients was my biggest earner.
The people I am targeting are the posters who talk about Public Money as if its a specific unchangable Animal and nonchalantly inform people that it is indeed, the opposite of their play. In the past, I have seen two different posters declaring that the Public are on the other team in the same game, which is quiet laughable.
As I said in my first post, there is no problem with your strategies as long as they have sound reasoning. Its obvious the potential in knowing live money or mug money, in fact when I was Bookmaking, betting live prices and laying them back to a list of clients was my biggest earner.
The people I am targeting are the posters who talk about Public Money as if its a specific unchangable Animal and nonchalantly inform people that it is indeed, the opposite of their play. In the past, I have seen two different posters declaring that the Public are on the other team in the same game, which is quiet laughable.
