The Most Honest Tout in the last 10 years.

[mrstein]

When it comes to paying for picks over the last 10 year s, I would have to say DR BOB has been the most honest with his record of win/loses.

I realize a lot of people love to give this guy grief however you have to admit he is upfront about his records and when he loses at least he is honest about it.

I have always been told that Dave Malinsky is a failry honest tout also.

Keep in mind I am not saying these guys are long term winners or are better then any other person, I am just basing it off a Straight forward Win Lose record.

Dr Bob does use his star system which is a bit skeued However he does show loses when they occur.

UNIT PLAY Sports claim they have the Highest Win record year after year in the # range of over 2000 units based on a yearly. I FIND THAT VERY HARD TO DIGEST ???? At 5 grand for a yearly script they better win.

I am intrested to see what the board has to say about this...........................

 

[PeterGriffin]

Before I even opened this thread I thought the name inside would be Dr. Bob. And I agree, he is as honest as they come. And very good, too. I only follow him in college foots because that is his best sport, but his record keeping is totally transparent. If you follow his advice in college football, you almost certainly will be up at the end of the year.

I would also add RAS to the list. He's been around since '97, and he has a link to every game he has released since that time (by year) on his Web site. And IMO, he's the best there is at college hoops totals. He tends to struggle in January and February though, so I only recommend tailing him through December. I also wouldn't play his sides either.

GL

 

[BillHartack]

Kevin Oneill is the most honest of anyone. First off he does not use a star system of any type and has NEVER released a game of the month, year or any other occassion. When he gives out a loser he owns up to it and tells you where he went wrong. In it for the long run and wants you to know that as well. If you are a serious long-term handicapper he has a couple of excellent books that will help anyone regardless of your level of handicapping. No, I am not his brother or mother and have nothing to gain by this post.

 

[mrstein]

I cant say that I have heard of Kevin Oneil ????

 

[bobano]

Most people know I respect Dave Malinsky a lot. He is very forthcoming and he appears on various radio programs in Canada on a weekly basis. He's also been at it for over 20 years so his experience is second to none. I should caution people though that he's been on a very cold streak with his college hoops picks. Dave has been doing very well though in the NBA and both pro and college football though during the past season. IMO, Malinsky is one of the all-around best and honest handicappers there is.

 

[ArizonaBound]

This industry has few to any honest touts. ALL touts lie about records and results. NO exceptions. If they don't lie, they manipulate, which is just as bad. Things like posting 23-5 runs instead of historic results is manipulation, even if it isn't a lie it isn't the entire truth. The only ones that are relatively transparent are the very select few who are posted everyday so they can't lie, but even most of them have no shame and lie anyway.
Bottom line, accept that every single one of them should be treated as used car salesman and 90% of what they say or do is bullshit. This is a results industry and I care about that more than anything, as should you.
Honesty is nice, but nice doesn't win money. NEVER TRUST anyone or anything that you have not verified yourself or from someone you can trust.
Yes, I am cynical but I equate this industry to the tobacco industry. At least there is some government regualtion with tobacco, unlike the scum of this industry who are free to roam and do whatever they want with no regard for anyone or anything. AS ALWAYS, TREAD CAUTIOUSLY.

 

[eeks]

vegas elite and mistermj are honest....because they are FREE!!!!

 

[BillHartack]

Kevin Oneill is monitored by the Oklahoma Sports Monitor. He has a website with useful info that is free with no picks, just info. Think what you may doesnt effect me at all. This guy is a lot more legitimate than you are narrow minded. realworldsports.com

 

[PeterGriffin]

you can't get dr bob or ras plays at the odds they are released at. dr bob is easier to get lines that are pretty close to what he releases at now that people have realized that he isn't as good as people were lead to believe. when both are tracked AT LINES THAT ARE AVAILABLE at release, they don't win! their sites use lines that people can't get, is that honest? malinsky has been one of the best fades for about the past month.

dr bob
-18.0 units ytd basketball

-6.5 units 2008-09 nfl
+0.3 units 2008-09 ncaa football

ras
104-109 ytd baskets (for plays i have seen posted)

i would fade ras after the line has changed 4-5 points. next year i will track this to see how it does.

You're kidding, right? So because Dr. Bob and RAS have such huge followings, they shouldn't use the lines that are there when they release their plays? That's ridiculous. If you are a subscriber to either guy, you can get pretty damn close to the number they release at. I subscribed to RAS a couple of different times this year and when I did, I was able to get the lines right at his release number. Yes, you may have to use a lesser-known book and you MUST get your bet in within a matter of seconds after the release, but you CAN get it at the number he releases.

And I have no idea where you come up with your numbers? Dr. Bob up +.3 units in college foots? He was 43-31 on the year, so that's a lot more than +.3 units. He is one of the very few touts who wins year after year at college football. Not one great year and then 3 sucky years, but consistent winning seasons. Like I said, he's not worth following in basketball, but he's very good at college football.

And how you could possibly say RAS is under .500? He's hitting over 60% on his totals, and about 50% on sides. And believe it or not, after you factor in the line moves he still wins those games a lot more often than he loses.

Like I said, not sure why you're going after 2 of the better touts around. Something tells me you're one of those people who just likes to complain for complaining's sake.

 

[PeterGriffin]

This industry has few to any honest touts. ALL touts lie about records and results. NO exceptions. If they don't lie, they manipulate, which is just as bad. Things like posting 23-5 runs instead of historic results is manipulation, even if it isn't a lie it isn't the entire truth. The only ones that are relatively transparent are the very select few who are posted everyday so they can't lie, but even most of them have no shame and lie anyway.
Bottom line, accept that every single one of them should be treated as used car salesman and 90% of what they say or do is bullshit. This is a results industry and I care about that more than anything, as should you.
Honesty is nice, but nice doesn't win money. NEVER TRUST anyone or anything that you have not verified yourself or from someone you can trust.
Yes, I am cynical but I equate this industry to the tobacco industry. At least there is some government regualtion with tobacco, unlike the scum of this industry who are free to roam and do whatever they want with no regard for anyone or anything. AS ALWAYS, TREAD CAUTIOUSLY.

For the most part, you're right. Most touts are lying, sleazy salesmen. However, you can't make categorical statements like 'ALL touts lie about their records and results.' Unless you know every tout on the face of the earth, you can't say something like that.

Also, RAS is one guy who doesn't lie about his record or manipulate it in any way. He releases his plays at a certain number, then posts the play within 10 minutes of tip. And like I said before, he has every play he's ever released posted on his site. If I'm wrong and you can find me a specific instance when he's lied about his record, I'll stand corrected.

 

[liftnbet]

ALL touts are fucking garbage

 

[mrstein]

AS I stated when I started the post. Is thier any Honst Touts in cyber world.

So far great responses overall,RAS has been around for quite a while indeed however like every tout he has his good years lean years and losing years.No tout can hit at 54 + % Lon-term NOBODY CAN.

With that being said it would be nice to put toghter an A List sort of speaking As to who excels in which sports Overall.

Stein

 

[steelerman]

No BS

Yankee Capper has been great as far as integrity goes. Always responds to e-mails right away, refunds money immediately when plays lose (even refunded my money a couple times when they plays only won a unit or two) and his records are posted and updated daily on his web site.

When I can't buy his plays, I follow the web site and the plays are posted shortly after the start of the game so he's not inflating his record.

His highest rated plays are 5 units and that is apparently a firm policy. I was talking to him a while back and he was telling me how he lost a lot of clients last year when he went on a horrible run. My suggestion to him was to just wait and release a 100 unit game of the year or something to get back in the positive and his response was "I'd rather have a losing record than deceive my clients".

Stand up guy, through and through.

And no, I don't work for him lol.

 

[TheCuban]

My Tout is by far the most honest capper by far.


His name is Teddy June. I have been dealing with him for several years now and he has won every year period (no bogus lines).

By coming to this site I have found another honest Tout and that would be IC. It was pointed out to me that these two guys were regular posters on these and other boards and are grass roots kind of guys as opposed to these salesmen thet seek the degenerate losing gamler looking for a last hope.

If your interested in Teddy June let me know I might be able to answer any questions for you. I do not work for him and will show you my paypal account receipt for my payments too him at request.

I have been gambling for over 20 years and have come across all types and Teddy my far is the best most honest capper I know. I am also a police officer and don't like it when people get scamed.

 

[TheCuban]

Not that I am aware of. But if you want to count me as a monitor I can sure tell you he does not play with his numbers ever. I paid for a yearly subscription and get everyone of his single plays and I bet everyone of his single plays and his records are always updated accuratley. Good Luck. I also belive IC is very similar that update there records with no issues. I just havent known IC long enough. Good luck my brother.

 

[HaoleLama]

great post Husker!
I have used Northcoast off and on for over 15 years and for football they have always been 100% honest; Now Northcoast does not do basketball , however they push garbage on the basketball "community line" where they list several services and when they list the capper they will tell you when the service is hot; and beware if they don't tell you how the service is doing, that means they are tanking;

 

[kidsmissy]

I remember IC posting his plays on a certain forum before he went tout. He posted his plays daily for everyone to see and monitor. Seemed like he was hitting at around a 70% clip but thats just an estament.

 

[joesixpack88]

When it comes to paying for picks over the last 10 year s, I would have to say DR BOB has been the most honest with his record of win/loses.

I realize a lot of people love to give this guy grief however you have to admit he is upfront about his records and when he loses at least he is honest about it.

I have always been told that Dave Malinsky is a failry honest tout also.

Keep in mind I am not saying these guys are long term winners or are better then any other person, I am just basing it off a Straight forward Win Lose record.

Dr Bob does use his star system which is a bit skeued However he does show loses when they occur.

UNIT PLAY Sports claim they have the Highest Win record year after year in the # range of over 2000 units based on a yearly. I FIND THAT VERY HARD TO DIGEST ???? At 5 grand for a yearly script they better win.

I am intrested to see what the board has to say about this...........................

nice post dr bob

 

[ChipHilton]

Not Larry Ness

I knew that sleavy bastard Larry Ness would claim a push on the Rockets last night so he wouldn't have to take the O'fer. Anyone get a push?

Either way, it doesn't cover his inabilities the last three nights:

<TABLE class=data id=hcPicks_tblHandicapperPicks cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=datahead width="17%">Date </TD><TD class=datahead width="10%">W/L</TD><TD class=datahead width="15%">Sport</TD><TD class=datahead width="48%">Pick</TD><TD class=datahead align=right width="10%">Units</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Push</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>Houston Rockets</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>N/A</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Nebraska </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>San Diego State </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/23/09</TD><TD class=datacell>WIN</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>Utah Jazz</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>700</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/23/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>New York Knicks</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-770</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>WIN</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Duke </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>700</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>under (BOS at PHO)</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-990</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Ohio State </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Syracuse </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-770</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


I have a few books and they all locked in at 4 1/2 and it never moved.
As did scores and odds:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="" border=0><THEAD><TR class=section_heading><TD colSpan=5>Complete Listing of Lines/Odds</TD></TR><TR class=section_heading><TD colSpan=5>PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS @ HOUSTON ROCKETS</TD></TR><TR class="game_heading bottom"><TH class=first scope=col>Time</TH><TH scope=col>Pointspread</TH><TH scope=col>Total</TH><TH scope=col>Away ML</TH><TH class=last scope=col>Home ML</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 12:29 PM EST </TD><TD>off </TD><TD>off </TD><TD>off </TD><TD class=last>off </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 3:53 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 -05 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 3:57 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 -02 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:03 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>192.5u10 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:05 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191.5u10 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:07 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 </TD><TD>192 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 5:43 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 7:57 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:05 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+165 </TD><TD class=last>-175 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:35 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:43 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+168 </TD><TD class=last>-178 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 11:03 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+170 </TD><TD class=last>-200 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 12:31 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 6:02 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>189.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 6:32 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[RAAJR]

nice post dr bob