the last game on tues

[seer]

point shaving aside (which does concern me) byu should win handily in this one
creighton doesn't play well as a vistor.one
thing they have over byu is sos.
the actual play on the court is an adv for byu fg%/ shots/and 3 pointers all statistically favour byu.

-4.5 2*
and i think the total is a bit high 166 under

 

[Dannyddoubled07]

Absolutely brutal loss on the under in that last game. I played it and thought it was pretty safe when they needed over 20 points in 1:20 to stay under. BYUjust gave them layup after layup. Unbelievable

 

[3pointdog]

Disgusting. I agree

 

[getitnow35]

Yea it was horrible defense, lucky byu even covered

 

[seer]

fixes and crap happens in nit and cit is why only a 2* play on byu...i liked them alot but i am wary of shaving

 

[alexnguyen]

fixes and crap happens in nit and cit is why only a 2* play on byu...i liked them alot but i am wary of shaving

You are a classic degenerate gambler man. I'm not saying point shaving doesn't exist but if you've played competitve sports you would understand the game. Creighton was actually smart by extending the game trying to trade layups for free throws or 3s for 2s. When you're down double digits with 2 minutes left it's really the only way you could come back unless you can get a good press going to force the turnover. BYU played soft defense because they were not about to give up a layup AND a foul. They were content with trading free throws for layups since they were up DD.

 

[r.a.]

You are a classic degenerate gambler man. I'm not saying point shaving doesn't exist but if you've played competitve sports you would understand the game. Creighton was actually smart by extending the game trying to trade layups for free throws or 3s for 2s. When you're down double digits with 2 minutes left it's really the only way you could come back unless you can get a good press going to force the turnover. BYU played soft defense because they were not about to give up a layup AND a foul. They were content with trading free throws for layups since they were up DD.

So you're saying you have to have played competitive sports to understand the game. That's like saying you have to be a chef to know if food tastes good or not. Pretty brave of you to call a guy you know nothing about a classic degenerate gambler. His handicapping brings more to this forum than you ever will.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

So you're saying you have to have played competitive sports to understand the game. That's like saying you have to be a chef to know if food tastes good or not. Pretty brave of you to call a guy you know nothing about a classic degenerate gambler. His handicapping brings more to this forum than you ever will.

+1

Well spoken.

Highly doubt that even what the guy said has any relation to the wary point shaving that seer mentioned.

Usc used to do this shit all of the time, but they wouldn't even go up double digits lol. They'd make sure of it. I don't know if any shaving goes on in tourneys. Especially since these are some of these kids last collegiate game ever. But point shaving is still present. Byu stays covering as small favs like 2 -4.5. 5-7.5 favs iil fade them or stay away. Good call seer.

 

[alexnguyen]

So you're saying you have to have played competitive sports to understand the game. That's like saying you have to be a chef to know if food tastes good or not. Pretty brave of you to call a guy you know nothing about a classic degenerate gambler. His handicapping brings more to this forum than you ever will.

My apologies.

 

[alexnguyen]

+1

Well spoken.

Highly doubt that even what the guy said has any relation to the wary point shaving that seer mentioned.

Usc used to do this shit all of the time, but they wouldn't even go up double digits lol. They'd make sure of it. I don't know if any shaving goes on in tourneys. Especially since these are some of these kids last collegiate game ever. But point shaving is still present. Byu stays covering as small favs like 2 -4.5. 5-7.5 favs iil fade them or stay away. Good call seer.

if they wanted to point shave or if the game was fixed yesterday then Creigton would have covered. BYU was a huge public play. Collinsworth is not a good free throw shooter and also had the flu yesterday so he missed some late free throws. The coach quickly pulled him knowing he needs his best FT shooters on the floor and after that BYU went 8/8 from the stripe.

 

[seer]

i am not saying this game was fixed. i posted that pre game. imagine this..djokovic (tennis) b4 he was a good player was offered $200,000 to throw a match.
when it comes to the last 4 teams there will be more money bet on this than tennis that is not between decent players.
when money is involved - let's face facts these criminals will go to these poor starving? students.
will there be shaving in the final game if there is one sided action between valpo and byu?
i would say more than likely

 

[MikRetSam]

Everyone knows the prevalence of fixing matches in tennis, that is completely different than cbb in the us.
Last nights game was not fixed and it doesn't happen nearly as much as you think. Every time someone takes a bad beat, the game was fixed- that's ridiculous. Good luck with your action.

 

[BigHurt007]

You aren't saying the game was fixed, but you were worried about point shaving? Huh?
More than likely there will be point shaving in the title game?
And your evidence for this is a tennis player being offered bribes, there are criminals in the world, and the students are "starving?"
You are off your rocker

 

[seer]

You aren't saying the game was fixed, but you were worried about point shaving? Huh?
More than likely there will be point shaving in the title game?
And your evidence for this is a tennis player being offered bribes, there are criminals in the world, and the students are "starving?"
You are off your rocker

lol is that all u do is harrass ppl and give out losing picks in nhl?
i am always wary of point shaving esp in college sports. ALWAYS. perhaps if you did buy into this you would be rolling out winners instead of losers.

 

[seer]

point is if a tennis player who isnt very good and eking out a living is offered $200k to throw a match then it can and will happen when there are larger amounts of money involved. it is just simple logic and if most of u dont understand that money has nothing to do with a sports outcome then you shouldnt be gambling

 

[BigHurt007]

Hilarious
Ok answer this simple question Mr. Expert Capper
For the sake of this stupid argument, let's say shaving is going to happen in the title game. How is that knowledge beneficial to you if you don't know WHICH team is shaving?

 

[seer]

lol r u kidding me? there are a number of sites that show the percentage of where the bets are going. some are just common sense. ie wash vs columbus in nhl do u think the public is on columbus. no wonder u lose.
me and boss should honestly look at the possibility of filing a harrassment and stalking suit against u.
post your own shit instead of harrassing others!

 

[boss415]

You know why he doesnt post plays ? He doesnt win. Guy has nothing better to do than troll. He trolled the rx hockey contest for lack of anything better to do. Mods should ban him for life

 

[alexnguyen]

Well that escalated quickly. Sorry Seer. I don't doubt point shaving exists but I think you think it happens way more than it actually does. That BYU game last night was a prime example. A ton of action on BYU and they looked like they were about to give up a vegas style back door cover but they didn't. I've seen games that had 95% of public on one side and the fishiest line in the world. I've taken other side of the "trap" bet only to lose because I bet on a shitty team that couldn't save vegas. I do notice those trap bets do end up being traps more times than not but I think it's only considered a trap because of public perception. The majority of public bettors think team A will smash on Team B but the statistical matchup indicates something closer to the line odds makers set. Public refuses to accept that because of their perception of team A being superior.

 

[alexnguyen]

This might come back to bite me in the ass but I'll use tonight's game as an example. Public perception is that Ohio is the superior team especially at home but the statistical matchup says Morehead would be favored on a neutral court, hence the short 3 pt line set by odds makers. Public says no way Ohio is going to smash. Not saying Morehead will win, it's gambling and every bet is considered 50/50. I'm just pointing out the public perception vs the matchup at hand. I am taking Morehead tonight purely based on the fact that I love getting fellatio from my wife.