The field for the 142nd Kentucky Derby will learn their starting gates at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday.

Search

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
The post position draw for the 2016 Kentucky Derby will begin at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday. You can watch as Derby-favorite Nyquist and his fellow competitors are assigned which gate they'll start in by tuning into NBCSN or streaming it online with NBC Sports Live Extra.Does post position matter at the Kentucky Derby? That's a more difficult question to answer than you might think.

Since Churchill Downs instituted the starting gate in 1930, one of the best spots to draw was No. 1, along the rail, Christina Moore recently showed at America's Best Racing. The winning horse has broke from there 9.3 percent of the time, making it the third-best gate.

Sounds great. Until you look at more recent data. The winning horse hasn't come out of the first gate since Ferdinand in 1986. You probably don't want to start anywhere on the inside at all, really. The second spot, with seven winners in 86 years, hasn't produced one since Affirmed in 1978. For the third post, you have to go back to Real Quiet in 1998. Horses too far to the inside can be squeezed and face a more physically and mentally taxing race.

Horses from the outside -- in the auxiliary gate, 15-20 -- appear to face the difficult task of running the farthest distance, but not being in the crush at the rail has been beneficial, especially recently.

So where do you want to draw?

According to Moore, the fifth spot is a good one. More than 10 percent of winners broke from there since 1930 and an astounding 17.6 percent since 1999. The 15th -- where American Pharoah began last year -- and 16th spots have also both been strong recently, with three winners each since 1999. So ideally, you'd like to be somewhere in the middle there.

The morning-line odds will be announced following the draw. Right now, Florida Derby winner Nyquist is the betting favorite at around 3/1, while Mohaymen and Santa Anita winner Exaggerator round out the top three at near 4/1 and 6/1, respectively.
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
I`ll post the draws tonight.
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
Here`s a look at last years Derby winner......American Pharoah.

 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
ChpOUzuWEAEdDGL.jpg
 

Conservatives, Patriots & Huskies return to glory
Handicapper
Joined
Sep 9, 2005
Messages
87,146
Tokens
damn, I'm fucked this year, too many names I like

I bet about 5 horse races a year, plus a trip to Saratoga

Safe to say, I'm no railbird
 

Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2002
Messages
39,612
Tokens
Damn. Need to start charting. I'm kinda getting the idea that the wise guy horse will be Creator.
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
KENTUCKY DERBY 142 POST POSITION DRAW QUOTES

Trojan Nation (Post position 1, morning line 50-1) – Paddy Gallagher (trainer) – “We’re in! He’s got no (early) speed. We’re fine there.”

Suddenbreakingnews (Post position 2, morning line 20-1) – Donnie Von Hemel (trainer) – “It's good with us. He's surrounded by horses with similar running styles and shouldn't get shuffled back. He should be able to get comfortable from there."

Creator (Post position 3, morning line 10-1)/Gun Runner (Post position 5, morning line 10-1) – Steve Asmussen (trainer) – “Creator, he's kind of out the back early. He won't have a long ways to go left to find the fence early. (Gun Runner) "It's looks like all the pace is to the outside. Hopefully, prerace, everything goes smoothly. Hopefully, he stands up in the gates. Hopefully, he's away from there really good. But, we're very anxious right now with a very good horse going into the Derby. He's a tremendous horse. You want a good trip to show who he is.''

Mo Tom (Post position 4, morning line 20-1) – Tom Amoss (trainer) – “I think the two most significant things about the draw are we drew toward the rail but not so close that it's a problem, and that there's a lot of speed way on the outside in this post-position draw. Those horses are going to have to be used out of the starting gate, and that I think will ensure a good pace, which is what we need.''

My Man Sam (Post position 6, morning line 20-1)/Shagaf (Post position 16, morning line 20-1) – Chad Brown (trainer) – “I’m fine with both posts. I was looking for an inside post with My Man Sam so six will work just fine and we were looking for something on the outside with Shagaf with as big as he is so he’ll stay out of trouble. Sixteen will work just fine. So now it’s just up to the horses and the jockeys.”

Oscar Nominated (Post position 7, morning line 50-1) – Mike Maker (trainer) – “I’m pleased, obviously. It’s better than the one-hole that we drew a couple of years ago. No complaints.”

Lani (Post position 8, morning line 30-1) – Mikio Matsunaga (trainer) – “It was a good draw, ideal. The middle was ideal so I have no complaints about drawing number eight.”

Destin (Post position 9, morning line 15-1)/Outwork (Post position 15, morning line 15-1) – Todd Pletcher (trainer) – “I’m good with them. We like the 15 for Outwork. It gives us some room inside between the gates. And I’m OK with the nine for Destin. The only thing that concerns me is the horse inside Destin (Lani, the Japanese representative). I have some concern about that horse acting up. But the posts themselves are fine.”

Whitmore (Post position 10, morning line 20-1) – Ron Moquett (trainer) – “We're tickled with it. All we've been wanting is a good post and a good trip. Last year, we didn't get a good post and I don't know if it would have changed anything, but this year we have a better post and a better horse."

Exaggerator (Post position 11, morning line 8-1) – Keith Desormeaux (trainer) – “I’m fine with it. Kent (Desormeaux, his brother and his rider) seems a bit concerned because he’ll have to wait some after they load. But I don’t see a problem. The horse is as cool as a cucumber. It’ll be fine.”

Tom’s Ready (Post position 12, morning line 30-1) – Dallas Stewart (trainer) – “Great draw. Great field. We're ready to go. The Bensons are ready to go. We're ready to roll.''

Nyquist (Post position 13, morning line 3-1) – Doug O’Neill (trainer) – “We like it. We see a good sign. We were post No. 13 when we won the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile.”

Mohaymen (Post position 14, morning line 10-1) – Kiaran McLaughlin (trainer) – “We’re happy. He’ll be the last one in the main gate, so it’s great. There’s a little space between the two gates. There are a lot worse posts, so we’re happy.”

Mor Spirit (Post position 17, morning line 12-1) – Gary Stevens (jockey) – “I’m happy with it.”

Majesto (Post position 18, morning line 30-1) – Gustavo Delgado (trainer) – “I’d prefer a little more inside, but I cannot change it. But remember he’s a strong horse.”

Brody’s Cause (Post position 19, morning line 12-1) – Dale Romans (trainer) – “At first, I was a little bit disappointed, but after looking at the draw with the speed (Danzing Candy) outside of us, we’ll let him clear. I think it’s going to be all right.”

Danzing Candy (Post position 20, morning line 15-1) – Cliff Sise (trainer) – “At first you're kind of stunned when they say 20, but when you start thinking about it, it's not that bad. It's better than the one-hole, especially for a speed horse -- he can come over very gradually and he won't sit in the gate long. Actually, it might be in our favor. We're outside of any other speed horse, so we'll take it.”
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
Kentucky Derby favorite Nyquist heads to track for his 2nd to last gallop before the race. Looked fluid and eager on the track.
<figure class="feed-item-figure ">
<source data-srcset="http://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net/images/standard_v1/9ad116b6-ef16-406c-b4a3-7a4dd1ff3a14.jpg">
9ad116b6-ef16-406c-b4a3-7a4dd1ff3a14.jpg
</picture>
</figure>
 
Joined
Jan 17, 2007
Messages
99,709
Tokens
I'm looking forward to the Florida Derby Re-match ... That Wasn't .. Nyquist vs. Mohaymen
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens

I like money
Handicapper
Joined
Dec 13, 2006
Messages
5,382
Tokens
Quick question. Im in a pool where we were randomly assigned a gatge number. (like a week ago) I pulled 13. If there is a scratch, do they move all the horses down a spot or leave an empty gate?

Thjanks
 

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
19,470
Tokens
Quick question. Im in a pool where we were randomly assigned a gatge number. (like a week ago) I pulled 13. If there is a scratch, do they move all the horses down a spot or leave an empty gate?

Thjanks

Yes they move towards the rail
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
2016 Arkansas Derby Featuring #3 Creator.

 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
2016 Santa Anita Derby Featuring #11 Exaggerator.

 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
2016 Toyota Blue Grass Featuring #19 Brody's Cause.

<strike></strike>
 

Active member
Handicapper
Joined
Jun 18, 2007
Messages
90,982
Tokens
2016 Wood Memorial Featuring #15 Outwork.

 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,875
Messages
13,574,505
Members
100,879
Latest member
am_sports
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com