The ethics of Wikileaks

[thecentaur]

I keep hearing the same issues about it. It's espionage, or the Russians are behind it, or you wouldn't like it if it were used against your party.

I think there is definitely merit to being wary about it, and the pandora's box it opens. However, as far as I know, Wikileaks doesn't use it for blackmail. It's an organization funded by contributions, and it focuses on government transparency, something we should have and are entitled to anyway.

It does make me uncomfortable that the Russians might be behind it, because they can be your friend one day and your blackmailing enemy the next. If you received intel that you were about to be robbed or harmed though, does it matter where that info comes from if it's deemed reliable? It seems the priority would be to neutralize the imminent threat or illegal action first, and deal with how you got that info later.

 

[akphidelt]

It's one thing if they exposed actual corruption and stuff that was illegal. But all they.re doing is a smear campaign against Hillary posting private conversations from her aides. Absolutely nothing illegal has been exposed. And given the fact Assange dangles this information out there knowingly trying to influence our election process is absolutely disgusting. Everyone should be sickened that a rapist getting stolen information from the Russians is playing games with our country. Back in the day Republicans would consider this an act of war by the Russians, but these days, they don't give a fuck about America.

 

[SheriffJoe]

A world with less secrets is a better world indeed.

More information = more informed voters.

Then again, if you're a two-faced hypocrite with BOTH a public and private position on everything, then yeah, I can see why you'd be upset. As an RX poster would say, "not a good look for her."

 

[NFLTrends]

It's one thing if they exposed actual corruption and stuff that was illegal. But all they.re doing is a smear campaign against Hillary posting private conversations from her aides. Absolutely nothing illegal has been exposed. And given the fact Assange dangles this information out there knowingly trying to influence our election process is absolutely disgusting. Everyone should be sickened that a rapist getting stolen information from the Russians is playing games with our country. Back in the day Republicans would consider this an act of war by the Russians, but these days, they don't give a fuck about America.

Where is your outrage against the Trump private conversation on the bus? Isnt that a smear campaign since its been on 24hrs a day when it was released?

 

[thecentaur]

It's one thing if they exposed actual corruption and stuff that was illegal. But all they.re doing is a smear campaign against Hillary posting private conversations from her aides. Absolutely nothing illegal has been exposed. And given the fact Assange dangles this information out there knowingly trying to influence our election process is absolutely disgusting. Everyone should be sickened that a rapist getting stolen information from the Russians is playing games with our country. Back in the day Republicans would consider this an act of war by the Russians, but these days, they don't give a fuck about America.

Among other things, I think the overall cooperation between Hillary's campaign and the supposedly neutral actors is important information to the public. 90% of the media should be allowed to skew and propagandize because they are American? I would also say the idea that there are foreign influences on American media is no less certain than the Russians being behind the hacks.

 

[akphidelt]

Among other things, I think the overall cooperation between Hillary's campaign and the supposedly neutral actors is important information to the public. 90% of the media should be allowed to skew and propagandize because they are American? I would also say the idea that there are foreign influences on American media is no less certain than the Russians being behind the hacks.

The media can support or say anything they want. They do not have to be unbiased. Breitbart is the media, Fox News is the media, Rush Limbaugh/Michael Savage/Glenn Beck are the media. I don't agree with anything they say, so I don't listen to them. I don't go crying that they are involved in some conspiracy to influence the election, because there is nothing to cry about. They are allowed to push their crazy conspiracy theories and terrible ideology.

But the Russians hacking one political party, stealing private information and conversations from American citizens is intolerable. No matter what party you favor, you should not want another country playing with our electoral process. Just 4 years ago, you Republicans were telling us Russia was one of our #1 enemies, lol. Now you guys are cheering them on to commit espionage against your own country. It's despicable.

 

[GasMan]

Where is your outrage against the Trump private conversation on the bus? Isnt that a smear campaign since its been on 24hrs a day when it was released?

Pretty much just destroyed akphi here.

 

[GasMan]

The media can support or say anything they want. They do not have to be unbiased. Breitbart is the media, Fox News is the media, Rush Limbaugh/Michael Savage/Glenn Beck are the media. I don't agree with anything they say, so I don't listen to them. I don't go crying that they are involved in some conspiracy to influence the election, because there is nothing to cry about. They are allowed to push their crazy conspiracy theories and terrible ideology.

But the Russians hacking one political party, stealing private information and conversations from American citizens is intolerable. No matter what party you favor, you should not want another country playing with our electoral process. Just 4 years ago, you Republicans were telling us Russia was one of our #1 enemies, lol. Now you guys are cheering them on to commit espionage against your own country. It's despicable.

So are the discoveries being made.
Despicable x 100.
But youre oK with those.

 

[akphidelt]

Where is your outrage against the Trump private conversation on the bus? Isnt that a smear campaign since its been on 24hrs a day when it was released?

It wasn't stolen and wasn't released illegally. If you guys have Hillary Clinton talking to a news station behind the scenes and they post that, that's fair game all day errrrvry day.

 

[akphidelt]

So are the discoveries being made.
Despicable x 100.
But youre oK with those.

I think the substance is weak. Just private conversations without any context. Nothing illegal. But like Marco Rubio, I'm not going to entertain information that was stolen from us by the Russians and give them any credence. No way no how. I support America. I don't support the Russians like you guys do.

 

[superbeets]

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[SheriffJoe]

Most Say Media, Not Russians, Tilting the Election

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 56% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it’s more likely that many in the media are working to get Clinton elected president. Just 26% disagree and say it’s more likely that the Russian government is working to get Trump elected. Eighteen percent (18%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

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Oh well...

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Wikileaks doing what the LSM won't. They deserve a Pulitzer Prize.

 

[The Guesser]

The media can support or say anything they want. They do not have to be unbiased. Breitbart is the media, Fox News is the media, Rush Limbaugh/Michael Savage/Glenn Beck are the media. I don't agree with anything they say, so I don't listen to them. I don't go crying that they are involved in some conspiracy to influence the election, because there is nothing to cry about. They are allowed to push their crazy conspiracy theories and terrible ideology.

But the Russians hacking one political party, stealing private information and conversations from American citizens is intolerable. No matter what party you favor, you should not want another country playing with our electoral process. Just 4 years ago, you Republicans were telling us Russia was one of our #1 enemies, lol. Now you guys are cheering them on to commit espionage against your own country. It's despicable.

 

[thecentaur]

Now you guys are cheering them on to commit espionage against your own country. It's despicable.

Just to be clear, I consider the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton to be an enemy of my country.

 

[The Guesser]

Just to be clear, I consider the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton to be an enemy of my country.

Your Country isn't America. Russia sounds more your speed.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Just to be clear, I consider the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton to be an enemy of my country.

Do you view Putin as a friend of your country? Shit, I can't stand Hilary, but that doesn't mean I'm going to welcome foreign entities wanting to influence our election.

 

[Dafinch]

It wasn't stolen and wasn't released illegally. If you guys have Hillary Clinton talking to a news station behind the scenes and they post that, that's fair game all day errrrvry day.

Lol, you kicked the shit out of THAT stupid ass argument...cheersgif(

 

[thecentaur]

Your Country isn't America. Russia sounds more your speed.

Sure, right, say it and it must be true, huh. You're a bedridden 800 lb hermaphrodite who gets off on bestiality porn. That was fun I guess

 

[thecentaur]

Do you view Putin as a friend of your country? Shit, I can't stand Hilary, but that doesn't mean I'm going to welcome foreign entities wanting to influence our election.

Read post #1 again