The Chinese bioengeered weapon, Covid-19, has already cost the US economy $34 Trillion

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We estimate U.S. cost of the coronavirus economic shutdown and lockdown is $34 TRILLION


When he was announcing the state of New York's "stay home" shutdown/lockdown of the state's 20 million people, Gov. Cuomo made heartwarming statement about why he was taking the action:“I did everything we could do … This is about saving lives. If everything we do saves just one life, I’ll be happy.” (emphasis added)

Then there's this tweet from Joe Biden (3/24):Let me be very clear: No one is expendable. No matter your age, race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or disability. No life is worth losing to add one more point to the Dow.

Save just "one life." "No life is worth losing." It sounds so good. But clearly the "one life" argument is fallacious on its face. Otherwise, we must ban driving and swimming pools and stairs for that matter (which kill 12,000 people annually).

So how many lives does it take? Two? Two thousand? Twenty thousand? And at what point do we consider the cost?

You may be thinking, how dare you put a price on lives? Because I'm not asking Gov. Cuomo or President Trump to be a Pastor. Our religious leaders don't put a price on individual lives. They always leave the 99 to save the one, as Jesus said. That's what pastors do and that's my personal standard as a Christian. It just can't be our standard as a society regarding our public policy.

If we're going to be honest, at some point we will need to do a serious "cost benefit analysis" of the economic and societal cost of literally shutting down huge swaths of our society and confining people to their homes. (Note: I'm not dealing with the cost in terms of our civil and religious liberties. That is high as well. We address that here.)

So I started searching, and to my surprise as of 3/23 it was difficult to find a one-stop resource that summarized the economic devastation of the coronavirus fear shutdown. Think about that for a moment...

I can access a dozen or more sites that seem to be updated several times a day letting me know precisely how many people have died from the coronavirus and how many just tested positive, but few if any good sources on the costs to society of the fear shutdown.

So let's count the costs.

1. Loss of Stock Market ValuationAt the end of February, reports indicate the stock market lost $6 trillion in valuation based on a drop of the Dow Jones Average from a high of 29,551 to 25,429 in the first wave of coronavirus crisis slides. Until we find a site that states the total loss due to the coronavirus crisis, based on the $6 trillion slide, we are estimating the total loss as of 3/31 (with the Dow at 18,591) to be:
Stock market loss in valuation: $10.5 TRILLION

They say those are "paper losses" and the market was "due for a correction." Tell that to the retired couple depending on their stocks to live in retirement. Or the near-retirement age couple that just saw the goal of retirement fade away.

2. Direct Losses to the Economy (Lower GDP)On March 20, Goldman Sachs drastically lowered its U.S. economic projections and is now expecting that that U.S.GDP will contract by 3.8% this year, as opposed to the projection at the outset of the year of 2% growth. It took America about three years to get back to the level of GDP output after the 2008-9 recession. Based on this data, we project the LOSS in GDP due to the coronavirus crisis:
Direct Losses to U.S. Economy (GDP) $2.39 TRILLION

3. Loss of Jobs/WagesThe U.S. Federal Reserve of St. Louis is projecting the possibility of up to 47 million lost jobs (32.1% unemployment), which is far greater than the Great Depression (24.9% unemployment)

But what's the cost? One study after the 2008-9 recession found that losing your job during that recession cost the person $112,000 over the next 25 years. In today's dollars, that's $135,000. Using this estimate, that means the COVID-19 economic shutdown cost U.S. workers
Losses in wages to unemployed workers: $5.264 TRILLION

4. More deficit government spendingAll the emergency stimulus efforts of Congress are simply adding to the piles and piles of debt. So the added debt is a real cost that someone will have to pay. At some point, we will pay in a devaluation of our dollars. In the long run, we're saddling our children and grandchildren with an impossible debt burden.And what is the U.S. cost? One estimate says the global spending bill from coronavirus will be $10 trillion. Here's what we know about the cost of the U.S. coronavirus spending bills:
  • Phase One: a paltry $8.3 billion
  • Phase Two: no one knows; one estimate $100 billion (also called "chump change" in D.C.)
  • Phase Three: Not yet passed, but the original number of $1 trillion was mocked so the Senate went for $2 trillion and the House just upped the ante to $2.2 trillion
  • But wait... the Phase Three stimulus actually created an additional $4.5 trillion in borrowing through a "helicopter credit drop" (a manipulation to give the govt. more borrowing power


Which gives us a total (so far, Phase Four is coming...) of $6.81 Trillion.

But wait... Since we will never pay that money back (the deficit only grows), let's add in 30 years of interest at, say 2.5%... and we get a grand total of...
Total cost of new deficit spending: $14.28 TRILLION (and counting)

Adding these costs up, we come to a grand total of...$32.434 TRILLION

That's more than the entire annual GDP of our country.

We are sure there are other costs:
  • Lost opportunity cost for businesses
  • Lost opportunity cost for individuals who had to delay dreams, plans, etc.
  • The cost of losing freedoms (priceless)
  • The cost of NOT EDUCATING millions of students and falling further behind in academic standards
  • The cost of singles not dating and progressing towards marriage
  • The cost of creating even more of a culture of government dependency (did anyone oppose the pork-filled bailout?)

Perhaps the stock market will regain all its losses. Let's say it does in 24 months. Even so, all investors lose TWO YEARS of investment growth.

We need to have an open discussion about the costs of the nation's COVID response. Were there no other options? Could we not have "firewalled" the ONLY statistically vulnerable community -- the elderly, and specifically the elderly with co-morbidities? (Those under 40 have about a .2% mortality rate from this, which is getting close to the risk of influenza.)

Instead of pursuing the least disruptive means of controlling this virus, the governments took the most aggressive path that has ever been seen in U.S. history. We have faced effective Martial Law (nicely called "stay home" orders, like we are pets... "stay") and the suspension of basic human rights. We think we should be adult enough to at least have a discussion of the costs and the benefits.
 

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I'm very impressed by your use of the color red and capital letters. It makes your argument all that much more convincing.

If the Chinese are as effective in their use of Bio Warfare as you say they are maybe DT should have thought twice before messing around with trade between the two countries. What ya think?
 
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Is a war coming?

nope, china's next move would be an emp strike over north america knocking out all the power grids for at least a year. we wouldn't strike back since even they don't want nukes exchanged or do we so we will have to go back to pioneer days. watch some wagon train and gunsmoke for a reminder of what is was like and going to be like.
 

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Btw this BS is brought to you by a neo-Nazi website called grassfire which is why rolledbyclemson didn't cite it.

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Btw this BS is brought to you by a neo-Nazi website called grassfire which is why rolledbyclemson didn't cite it.

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rolledbyclemson gets called out as a racist last week, denies it, and then posts neo-Nazi drivel on here this week.

Hmmmm, I wonder where he gets his "evolutionary ladder" takes?
 

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hee hee, neonazi website … same thing you used to call Drudge and still call Breitbart. keep watching CNN and let me know how that goes for you, phd mick

you guys are so silly with all those American Nazi boogeymen and KKK members you talk about. Never met one of either in my life but you claim at least 4200 of them on therxforum alone
 

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Chinese communist will be forced to pay 200 trillion for their stupid actions today
 

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I believe when this blows over soon the USA will just make China forgive the debt. If they play hard Trump will finish there economy which was hanging by a thread before this virus escaped the country.
 

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Remember my words
Chinese communist will be forced to pay 200 trillion for their stupid actions today
If the PRC is smart enough to bioengineer a weapon that destroys the US economy, don't you think they just might be smart enough to avoid any responsibility for it?

And Mexico is going to pay for the wall...yeah, how's that working out?
 

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Wall is going up and Mexico is paying for it
 

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I believe when this blows over soon the USA will just make China forgive the debt. If they play hard Trump will finish there economy which was hanging by a thread before this virus escaped the country.
I also think their economy is on the brink of collapse.
The release of the virus was an attemp to level the playing field.

I doubt that we will ever know for sure but it makes sense.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
 

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I also think their economy is on the brink of collapse.
The release of the virus was an attemp to level the playing field.

I doubt that we will ever know for sure but it makes sense.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
exactly...I brain dumped about this a few hours ago. (reposted below but cleaned up the spelling errors)


if your own economy was in shambles with new malls, residences, and high rise commercial building completely empty and uninhabited....and, if you were a communist power completely controlled by a few state leaders how hard would it be to

1) release an engineered SARS-like virus out of your nation's ONLY level 4 virology lab in Wuhan which just so happens to be the world's foremost authority on viruses that reside in asymptomatic bats
2) one you create a virus that can jump from bat to human you then "accidentally" have a virologist infect himself and then head to an open wet market where thousands of people are infected either directly by the virologist or through the infected bats he supplies to the market
3) once the first cases are diagnosed you immediately quarantine this land locked city so your country does not get mass infected but you allow all international flights to/from the Hubei Province to continue as scheduled for 3 months before any nation bans these trips. And don't forget to make all whistleblowers disappear while you provide inaccurate information to the WHO
4) send out millions of faulty masks, ventilators, gowns, and shields so that healthcare workers in foreign countries have little protection against contracting the virus which is also tearing through 1st responders (police, fire, emt) in the most densely populated enemy cities
5) infiltrate the TDS-obsessed liberal media by creating fake news stories that you know they will parrot to keep the anger focused on one large Orange fella and not on the despicable communist government of China
6) because you released it in a land-locked city and locked down all domestic travel your nation emerges economically months before anyone else, and, are now relied upon even more than pre-Covid for raw materials and finished goods including medication, chemicals, glass, steel, and textiles.
7) and don't forget to accelerate the destruction of the world's oil/petroleum market where you are nearly 100% dependent on imports (look into how many products require petroleum as the originating raw material)

but, please don't call this the CCP or Chinese Virus …
 

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