The Call that the refs missed that nobody wants to talk about

[Willie99]

Thinking about Peterson going for it on fourth down late in the game, here's what made it such a special play.

He told his second TE (I think it was the other TE) to simply go out there and block the guy covering Ertz which will leave him wide open for a 1st down catch. If they call the penalty, which they didn't, he punts.

I think that strategy should be more widely used

 

[bodyforlife]

That character on SNL comes to mind when I see threads like this..."it's always something "

 

[Serbone]

There were NO offensive line holding calls, HUGE advantage for NE since the Philly DL is one of the best in the NFL. Think about it. And the Philly OL is better than NE's so it is an advantage, there, too, since Philly OL does not need the help as much as NE does (sorry, Willie).

I saw tons of holds that they usually call... and sure the NE OL figured out they could get away with it so did even more. That is why there were 74 points scored.

The NFL decided they would NOT let the Super Bowl be decided by a fru fru reversal of a catch based on the absurd catch rule. And they would NOT let there be long PI calls, another area of controversy. They need to make changes and did not want that to ruin the 7 month period before the season begins again in September.

 

[dhawk12]

The guard moved on the play. It’s clear as day. If called, which it should’ve been, it’s 4th and 6 and Eagles punt. That was the biggest missed call

 

[phdinsports]

There were NO offensive line holding calls, HUGE advantage for NE since the Philly DL is one of the best in the NFL. Think about it. And the Philly OL is better than NE's so it is an advantage, there, too, since Philly OL does not need the help as much as NE does (sorry, Willie).

I saw tons of holds that they usually call... and sure the NE OL figured out they could get away with it so did even more. That is why there were 74 points scored.

The NFL decided they would NOT let the Super Bowl be decided by a fru fru reversal of a catch based on the absurd catch rule. And they would NOT let there be long PI calls, another area of controversy. They need to make changes and did not want that to ruin the 7 month period before the season begins again in September.

YES! That's what I've been saying all along! It's uncanny, unreasonable actually how a team that passes so much, empty backfield, old immobile quarterback, playing against a historic front four in terms of sacks (last game vs Jags) trailing most of the game, and not one offensive holding call. This has got to be the greatest O-line in history!! The last 3 and half playoff games not a single holding calling despite trailing most of the time. That being said they did miss the pic on the Ertz catch and the CLEAR contact down the field on the Hail Mary. They also missed the clear Pass interference on the two point convert. The Pats still had 6 to 1 advantage in penalties and a 35 to 5 yard advantage in penalty yards. However the Clement td call was correct because it must be 100% proof to overturn the original call! It's a much higher burden of proof than a court of law, where beyond a reasonable doubt gets a conviction. In the NFL to overturn the original call it must be 100% proof, and it's still debated by NFL officials whether it's a catch or not, therefore it's not 100% clear proof to overturn the original call.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/4/1...ents-catch-ruled-a-touchdown-in-super-bowl-52

One call that does not get mentioned is Amendola getting stripped well before the whistle. Now I've only seen the play once, but on first review the ball is clearly out well before the whistle. Not 100% sure about this play however.

As for the illegal formation, it was addressed in another thread, and upon further review it's a non-issue because Jeffery checks in with the sideline official. Watch the reply, as he lines up, he points to the official, (checking in) therefore no illegal formation.

 

[Serbone]

No one talks about the OL issue... no holding calls at all?

During the regular season they made calls, then, suddenly, the NE OL can do anything they want. Sure they let the other teams off when they play them but Brady is very very very immobile whereas Foles, Bortles, and Mariotta (before he dinged his quad again in the playoff game) are above average mobile.

 

[Biz]

Holding is rarely called in the SB, been that way for some time. Lots of things aren't called in this game.

For whatever reason the NFL has deemed that penalties shouldn't be called in the biggest game of the year. We've all seen games that were complete eyesores due to the number of flags thrown. The NFL doesn't want people, who normally don't watch football, witnessing a disjointed game. They also have to keep the game on time, and having flags all game gets that out of whack. Imagine one of those long Sunday afternoon games, due to flags being tossed around all afternoon, happening in this game. It wouldn't end until 8pm/11pm.

The NFL is big business, the game itself with regards to competition is not what they are concerned about. Its a Billionaire's club, and they care about money.

Sure we have great players and the game, at times, can be a great spectacle. But the NFL is about churning out millions for the owners. The game itself, who wins or loses, is secondary.

No other sport is like this, where the rules are secondary in the biggest game of the year. Sure, whistles are a bit tighter in Gm 7 of an NBA or NHL game. But stuff still gets called. In the NFL they don't call anything.

Holding, pick plays, illegal contact, do whatever you want.

Not taking anything away from Philadelphia, they deserved that game. But for the true NFL fan, not the ones that show up once a year, it can be frustrating to watch.

 

[phdinsports]

Holding is rarely called in the SB, been that way for some time. Lots of things aren't called in this game.

For whatever reason the NFL has deemed that penalties shouldn't be called in the biggest game of the year. We've all seen games that were complete eyesores due to the number of flags thrown. The NFL doesn't want people, who normally don't watch football, witnessing a disjointed game. They also have to keep the game on time, and having flags all game gets that out of whack. Imagine one of those long Sunday afternoon games, due to flags being tossed around all afternoon, happening in this game. It wouldn't end until 8pm/11pm.

The NFL is big business, the game itself with regards to competition is not what they are concerned about. Its a Billionaire's club, and they care about money.

Sure we have great players and the game, at times, can be a great spectacle. But the NFL is about churning out millions for the owners. The game itself, who wins or loses, is secondary.

No other sport is like this, where the rules are secondary in the biggest game of the year. Sure, whistles are a bit tighter in Gm 7 of an NBA or NHL game. But stuff still gets called. In the NFL they don't call anything.

Holding, pick plays, illegal contact, do whatever you want.

Not taking anything away from Philadelphia, they deserved that game. But for the true NFL fan, not the ones that show up once a year, it can be frustrating to watch.

Falcons got called twice for holding in the final 17 minutes last year. Both calls taking them out of field goal range. The second one was clear, first one you could call that one every other snap.

 

[Biz]

I’m sure you can find a holding call here and there.

The point is that penalties are rarely called in this game that are called in every other game.

 

[buddygurt]

the Pats had 0 live ball penalties in the game, and people are saying the refs screwed them over? good grief

 

[slapshot]

another in season call they let go

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET

It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
Note: The tackle box no longer exists once the ball leaves the tackle box.

 

[MackDonald]

No one talks about the OL issue... no holding calls at all?

During the regular season they made calls, then, suddenly, the NE OL can do anything they want. Sure they let the other teams off when they play them but Brady is very very very immobile whereas Foles, Bortles, and Mariotta (before he dinged his quad again in the playoff game) are above average mobile.

Tom Brady is the NFL's Crown Jewel, they lose him and the whole league suffers (Money & TV) Look what happened when Green Bay lost Rogers, their season was over.

 

[Salsantorre]

The guard moved on the play. It’s clear as day. If called, which it should’ve been, it’s 4th and 6 and Eagles punt. That was the biggest missed call

I thought I was the only one that saw that, or thought I saw it. The super bowl is really phony football. Hardly any penalties; that's not the way the game is played in reality. It's a joke. It's really just entertainment anymore unless you're gambling which most of us on this site do.

 

[woodypaige]

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburg...ng-Jesse-James-overturned-touchdown-112440972

New England should have even been in this game. It's about time Reporters called out Riverton in his shady calls for NE.
3 million viewers were watching and Riverton couldn't over turn either call, cause he would have been exposed for the crook he is.

 

[phdinsports]

another in season call they let go

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET

It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
Note: The tackle box no longer exists once the ball leaves the tackle box.

LMFAO! Dude post a better pic! Jenkins facemask is touching Cooks hand in that pic! Come on man!!

 

[JohnnyMags]

When I say only blatant penalties would get called on a hail mary a false start is rather blatant.

By the way had the Clement TD been overturned they would have kicked FG meaning they lose 4 points ...... is (41-4) more than 33?

It seems a lot of the opinions here are implying the Eagles couldn't win without help.

 

[Biz]

When I say only blatant penalties would get called on a hail mary a false start is rather blatant.

By the way had the Clement TD been overturned they would have kicked FG meaning they lose 4 points ...... is (41-4) more than 33?

It seems a lot of the opinions here are implying the Eagles couldn't win without help.

Really??

Not taking anything away from Philadelphia, they deserved that game.

Take away Clements TD and they have 41-4 and still win.

Right, because the game plays out exactly the same.....and you're assuming a guy that missed an XP will make the FG.

Nobody is saying Philadelphia didn't deserve the victory. The Super Bowl is becoming a joke, the league worries more about how the game looks......not bogged down with penalties.....than having the game played out under the same rules as every other game.

BTW knocking a guy off his route 30 yards downfield is pretty blatant. Why is that ok on a Hail Mary but not every other play?

 

[RookieDL]

The crown of the helmet of the top, which didn't make contact.

another in season call they let go

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET

It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
Note: The tackle box no longer exists once the ball leaves the tackle box.

 

[RookieDL]

https://youtu.be/wEF426bK5dU?t=9m2s

This play? I don't see a false start.

The guard moved on the play. It’s clear as day. If called, which it should’ve been, it’s 4th and 6 and Eagles punt. That was the biggest missed call

 

[bodyforlife]

The most amusing part about this thread is I'd wager if you look at the history of the people complaining, they are the same ones that complain about the game being too long and constantly whining about how long it takes for the replays and the duration of the game. This was one of the most efficient games of the year as far as duration and yet people are still whining. You simply can't win.