Lol somewhat new, I had been lurking for a little while before I decided to finally submit my NFL picks to the forums (and help carry the forums in the process with my 9-3 start to the year in NFL betting
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Anyway, what that poster has there is an incredibly weak argument. How could getting THOSE Rays teams to the playoffs annually, LET ALONE TO A WORLD SERIES (aka the same Devil Rays that lost 100-110 games rvery year for a decade) not be considered enough? So what if he didn't win a World Series there? That's certainly not on him. Maddon got those teams to overachieve BIG time; the fact that they didn't win it all under his leadership really isn't a knock on him at all. He changed an entire culture and turned the franchise around for the first time in their history (literally, since they were perennial losers every year).
To me, actually, the most impressive job Maddon did was his final year in TB when they didn't even make the playoffs. 20+ games under .500 in early June 2014, the constant whispers and distractions of David Price being dealt, yet they continued to hang in there and hang in there, miraculously scratched and clawed into Wild Card contention and we're only a handful of games out. Price gets dealt anyway and they STILL remain in contention into the final weeks. That 2014 TB Rays season, believe it or not, is what sealed it for me that Maddon is indeed a future Hall of Fame manager.
Cant forget the job he did in 2013 either. Another year they were welllllll under the radar. Win a tiebreaker game the day after the regular season in Texas just to get into the Wild Card Game. Travel to Cleveland two days later and beat Danny Salazar (of note, this was Francona's first year in CLE)
Ugh it makes my head hurt. Maddon is amazing and no other opinion is acceptable. Not even an argument. If these idiots are complaining how Maddon was "handed a team full of All Stars" (not true also), then where were their huge bets on Cubs Over 82.5 Wins last year????
Harry, it's not even worth arguing in that thread. They have zero clue what they're taking about