The Big-10 is single-handedly ruining college football for everyone.

[hippieki11er]

Some governing body needs to step in and force this conference to either drop a team, add a 12th team, or play a CCG. If they don't, the conference should immediately lose their BCS conference standing, period.

The Big-10 plays 4 OOC games each year (3 of which are at home) and only 8 conference games. And before any Big-10 apologist chimes in with the usual excuse "it's mathematically impossible for them to play more conference games because the odd number of teams", then why not at least play a CCG then? Stop hiding behind this excuse Big-10 fans. The Pac-10 doesn't have a CCG either, but at least they play a full conference schedule and only 3 OOC games.

Instead, conferences like the Big-12 and SEC are anually screwed by the Big-10 and their annually overrated teams who make the NC game by default due to their nonsensical scheduling. The conference pads its rankings by scheduling 4 OOC games against pathetic opponents, 3 of which are at home. On top of that, they then have some arbitrary conference scheduling where "top" conference teams typically avoid other "top" teams ("top" being a relative term in this conference of course, as it's below average to begin with).

The corrupt, greedy commisioners of the Big-10 are not only reaping the rewards of all the revenue generated by more home games, but they also vote against the +1 system. Is there any wonder why they'd vote against that? Of course not! The Big-10 would never win another NC, much less even play for one, if such a system were to exist. Instead, the Big-10 just sits back waiting for top BCS conference teams to knock one another off and then they back their way into the NC game. To make matters even worse, the Rose Bowl then has the option to take the 2nd place Big-10 team and now one of the worst BCS conferences suddenly collect two $12M BCS purses while getting blown-out and embarrassed in each BCS game they play. This is unbelievable.

Can you believe that there's going to be a very good chance this year that the Big-12 or SEC won't be represented in the NC game? So when OU, UT, TT, UF, and UA fans are looking for blood come the BCS bowl announcement, please take it up with the Big-10 and their commisioners.

How many more years will fans allow terribly overrated teams like Ohio State and Penn State ruin the National Champsionship landscape? The Big-10 doesn't deserve to be represented in the BCS at all until they reform their conference.

 

[FairWarning]

How do you feel about the Big East and ACC getting a BCS bid? How about if Missouri wins the Big 12 and only one from the Big 12 South getting a BCS bid, who goes?

 

[bigwillokc]

Get rid of automatic bids alltogether. Let the top 10 teams all go. Top 2 go to championship game and then let the other BCS bowls take turns picking the remaining teams ranked 2-10. Seems easy to me. That way you finish in the top 10, you're going to a BCS bowl. Teams shouldn't be punished just because there are several good teams in their conference and teams shouldn't be given free bids just because they are the best team in a mediocre conference. To me thats the second best way to do it short of a playoff.

 

[Illini]

The Big 10 shouldn't have to change anything. It's the NCAA that needs to get a playoff, and the blood is on their hands.

 

[FairWarning]

Get rid of automatic bids alltogether. Let the top 10 teams all go. Top 2 go to championship game and then let the other BCS bowls take turns picking the remaining teams ranked 2-10. Seems easy to me. That way you finish in the top 10, you're going to a BCS bowl. Teams shouldn't be punished just because there are several good teams in their conference and teams shouldn't be given free bids just because they are the best team in a mediocre conference. To me thats the second best way to do it short of a playoff.

We know that will never happen.

 

[bigwillokc]

probably not, but thats the most logical way to do it in my mind without adding games for a playoff.

 

[bigwillokc]

I say the only rule to my idea would be not to put two teams from the same conference in the same game to add some variety.

 

[EasyMoney]

dude, every post you make is anti big 10. get over it allready. Maybe you don't realize it but the reason the SEC was in the national championship game the last 2 years is solely because they DO have a conference championship game. I guess you forgot about how Florida jumped Michigan when they won the SEC champ. 2 years ago. How many teams did LSU jump after last years SEC champ game. Wasn't it like 3. UGA, Va Tech and Kansas if I remember right. You bitch about having to play a con. champ game but it has HELPED the SEC the last 2 years. Again, it doesn't hurt you it helps you.

 

[OTK]

Get rid of automatic bids alltogether. Let the top 10 teams all go. Top 2 go to championship game and then let the other BCS bowls take turns picking the remaining teams ranked 2-10. Seems easy to me. That way you finish in the top 10, you're going to a BCS bowl. Teams shouldn't be punished just because there are several good teams in their conference and teams shouldn't be given free bids just because they are the best team in a mediocre conference. To me thats the second best way to do it short of a playoff.

I don't agree with this at all because then the polls have too much power and they are often very poorly done. Maybe you could do it where the top 2 BCS teams play for the title and the rest of the BCS games get to pick out of the remaining teams to play in their bowl game, but you shouldn't restrict it with rankings imo, and if you do don't make it the top 10. As far as I see if the Orange Bowl wanted the team ranked #14 over the team ranked #8 that should be their decision and they should get to choose them. Maybe a team like Utah is ranked 8th and someone like Michigan, Florida or USC is ranked 14th. Whoever would choose Utah to be in their high profile bowl game over one of those three teams would have to be one of the stupidest people on the planet. They'd make much more money with a big school like USC or Michigan over a team like Utah, Boise St or TCU.

I agree they should maybe get rid of the restrictions of certain conf. getting auto bids because I don't think any ACC or Big East team should get a BCS bowl bid this year. The Big 10 should actually get two, and will get two with Penn St and Ohio St. Pac 10 will have USC, SEC will likely have Florida and Alabama, Big 12 will have OU and Texas (might be tech, but I doubt it) and the other three will go to teams that would get killed against all of these listed teams. They should probably just add UGA, Tech and maybe Ok St to that list to have the legit BCS bowl teams there, but instead it will be like Pitt, Utah and Georgia Tech.

 

[bigwillokc]

Top 15 then?

 

[TOOTIGHT]

This thread is a joke. HK, your anti Big10 material is almost as bad as Whoreman when it comes to the PAC10. Get a life and stop trying to stir things up. Your points have no backing, just conspiracy theories that make you sound retarded.

The BIG10 is the last conference that benefits from the system in place. It's not their fault every team choked last year putting OSU in the title game.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

I don't agree with this at all because then the polls have too much power and they are often very poorly done. Maybe you could do it where the top 2 BCS teams play for the title and the rest of the BCS games get to pick out of the remaining teams to play in their bowl game, but you shouldn't restrict it with rankings imo, and if you do don't make it the top 10. As far as I see if the Orange Bowl wanted the team ranked #14 over the team ranked #8 that should be their decision and they should get to choose them. Maybe a team like Utah is ranked 8th and someone like Michigan, Florida or USC is ranked 14th. Whoever would choose Utah to be in their high profile bowl game over one of those three teams would have to be one of the stupidest people on the planet. They'd make much more money with a big school like USC or Michigan over a team like Utah, Boise St or TCU.

I agree they should maybe get rid of the restrictions of certain conf. getting auto bids because I don't think any ACC or Big East team should get a BCS bowl bid this year. The Big 10 should actually get two, and will get two with Penn St and Ohio St. Pac 10 will have USC, SEC will likely have Florida and Alabama, Big 12 will have OU and Texas (might be tech, but I doubt it) and the other three will go to teams that would get killed against all of these listed teams. They should probably just add UGA, Tech and maybe Ok St to that list to have the legit BCS bowl teams there, but instead it will be like Pitt, Utah and Georgia Tech.

The only problem with your argument is that you are letting money be the factor in choosing who goes. Money already plays a big part as to why we have the flawed system we do.

 

[whormoan]

Some governing body needs to step in and force this conference to either drop a team, add a 12th team, or play a CCG. If they don't, the conference should immediately lose their BCS conference standing, period.

The Big-10 plays 4 OOC games each year (3 of which are at home) and only 8 conference games. And before any Big-10 apologist chimes in with the usual excuse "it's mathematically impossible for them to play more conference games because the odd number of teams", then why not at least play a CCG then? Stop hiding behind this excuse Big-10 fans. The Pac-10 doesn't have a CCG either, but at least they play a full conference schedule and only 3 OOC games.

Instead, conferences like the Big-12 and SEC are anually screwed by the Big-10 and their annually overrated teams who make the NC game by default due to their nonsensical scheduling. The conference pads its rankings by scheduling 4 OOC games against pathetic opponents, 3 of which are at home. On top of that, they then have some arbitrary conference scheduling where "top" conference teams typically avoid other "top" teams ("top" being a relative term in this conference of course, as it's below average to begin with).

The corrupt, greedy commisioners of the Big-10 are not only reaping the rewards of all the revenue generated by more home games, but they also vote against the +1 system. Is there any wonder why they'd vote against that? Of course not! The Big-10 would never win another NC, much less even play for one, if such a system were to exist. Instead, the Big-10 just sits back waiting for top BCS conference teams to knock one another off and then they back their way into the NC game. To make matters even worse, the Rose Bowl then has the option to take the 2nd place Big-10 team and now one of the worst BCS conferences suddenly collect two $12M BCS purses while getting blown-out and embarrassed in each BCS game they play. This is unbelievable.

Can you believe that there's going to be a very good chance this year that the Big-12 or SEC won't be represented in the NC game? So when OU, UT, TT, UF, and UA fans are looking for blood come the BCS bowl announcement, please take it up with the Big-10 and their commisioners.

How many more years will fans allow terribly overrated teams like Ohio State and Penn State ruin the National Champsionship landscape? The Big-10 doesn't deserve to be represented in the BCS at all until they reform their conference.

Id love to know why the same couldn't be said for the pathetic-10. How is it any different??? USC plays high school teams all yr and even if they did have a Pac-10 championship game it would be against a garbage team. Texas has had to go thru hell and inevitably lost as will Alabama at some point

 

[hippieki11er]

Wow, the backlash here is unbelievable. Has everyone suddenly forgot the annual disaster of a NC game that we have to sit through?

What's the common element in play here? I'll give you a hint... it begins with Big and it ends in 10.

Their conference structure is an absolute joke where every single teams feasts on 4 pathetic OOC opponents, 3 of which are at home. They then have an arbitrary conference schedule where traditonal top programs like OSU, UM, and PSU somehow avoid playing the others.

And what gives us the biggest clue that this conference knows exactly what it's doing? Well, it's own commissioners annually vote against any kind of BCS playoff or +1 system, totally ignoring the pleads of all fans. You'd have to be a simpleton to not understand why the Big-10 wouldn't want any part of such system. It's called ca$h and the Big-10 wants all of it.

I guess we'll just have to sit through another undeserving, overrated Big-10 team in the NC game and another in the Rose Bowl who will both get their lunch handed to them. Oh well, just another year of college football down the toilet where the top deserving teams never face off.

 

[RedDustRising]

Great thread, Hippie. Big 10 and PAC 10's lack of CCG is a huge advantage for those conferences.

 

[TOOTIGHT]

The Superbowl isn't always a close game either and sometimes a team gets blown out. It's nice when it's a good game but it is what it is. Face it, the CFB seaon is a playoff. If USC can't beat Stanford and WVU looses as 28 point favorites who's fault is it they aren't playing for a title. The CFB system sucks since there's no playoff but it's not one confereces fault. OSU never should have played last year in the title game but no other teams did anything to help the situation. OU won it's conference game only to get blown out by WVU. LSU got into the title game because of their confernce championship game so I don't know what your getting at.

The PAC10 voted against the plus one because they love having homefield advantage in the Rose Bowl every year so why aren't you calling them out. Oh...that's right your a USC fan.

 

[gynecologist]

I love it when USC plays a BIG-10 team..

 

[MSUSpartans]

I agree with the 3 vs 4 OOC games, but for Mich/MSU/Purdue sake, they play ND every year, which is basically the 9th conference game. I wish ND would be that 12th.

But really, one great year from the Big 12 and suddenly everyone's on their nuts. A little short-sighted there.

Also, lets not forget the real reason behind conference championship games anyways: MONEY. Not like these game have always been there, only since the 1990's. Why make the B10 cahnge because of other conferences' greed?

 

[EasyMoney]

Great thread, Hippie. Big 10 and PAC 10's lack of CCG is a huge advantage for those conferences.

I ask this question all the time and every time the post gets ignored. So Again, Do you SEC guys realize that the SEC champ game had helped your conference each of the last 2 years. Floirda and LSU both leapfrogged teams to get into the NC game because they played in the SEC champ game. So how is not having one a huge advantage? You wouldnt have been in the NC game if not for the SEC champ game the last 2 years. LSU leapfrogged 5 teams last year. 3 of them either won or didn't play but got jumped because LSU played in the SEC champ game.

 

[MSUSpartans]

I ask this question all the time and every time the post gets ignored. So Again, Do you SEC guys realize that the SEC champ game had helped your conference each of the last 2 years. Floirda and LSU both leapfrogged teams to get into the NC game because they played in the SEC champ game. So how is not having one a huge advantage? You wouldnt have been in the NC game if not for the SEC champ game the last 2 years. LSU leapfrogged 5 teams last year. 3 of them either won or didn't play but got jumped because LSU played in the SEC champ game.

Excellent point. Extra win always helps to decide between 2 undefeated teams from opposing conferences. But some wouldnt be happy unless it's 2 SEC teams in the National Championship every year.