The 33 yard extra point

[HarryCaray]

So if they spot it at the 15 isn't it a 32 yard XP? I always added 17 yards to the spot...this has me confused. :think2:

 

[MikeB]

So if they spot it at the 15 isn't it a 32 yard XP? I always added 17 yards to the spot...this has me confused. :think2:

I think that the further you go back, the kicker may want that extra 1 yard to give the ball a better chance to get over the defense.

 

[akphidelt]

I think that the further you go back, the kicker may want that extra 1 yard to give the ball a better chance to get over the defense.

In my experience kickers like it closer, because your blocking scheme is always to cover the inside leaving the outside gunners free. And the further you move back the easier chance the outside gunners can get there. Just my opinion. Never seen them go back 8 yards. Seen 6-7.

 

[MikeB]

In my experience kickers like it closer, because your blocking scheme is always to cover the inside leaving the outside gunners free. And the further you move back the easier chance the outside gunners can get there. Just my opinion. Never seen them go back 8 yards. Seen 6-7.

If they have to drive the ball further (especially into the wind), wouldn't they want it a little further back?

Kinda like when I want to hit my golfball 200 yards, I'm not gonna hit my pitching wedge, I'm gonna take a lower iron.

 

[Albatross]

In my experience kickers like it closer, because your blocking scheme is always to cover the inside leaving the outside gunners free. And the further you move back the easier chance the outside gunners can get there. Just my opinion. Never seen them go back 8 yards. Seen 6-7.

Is that you playing place kicker holder in your picture? If so, you could for once could have me convinced.

 

[HarryCaray]

If they're at the 35, it's a 52 yarder. If they're at the 20, it's a 37 yarder. Always has been and that math has always worked.

 

[MikeB]

If they're at the 35, it's a 52 yarder. If they're at the 20, it's a 37 yarder. Always has been and that math has always worked.

I always thought that it was 17 yards plus the yard line too. That was my best guess as to why there is an extra yard added. I don't think that they made the endzone 11 yards deep.

 

[DogDaze]

If they're at the 35, it's a 52 yarder. If they're at the 20, it's a 37 yarder. Always has been and that math has always worked.

This.

 

[akphidelt]

Is that you playing place kicker holder in your picture? If so, you could for once could have me convinced.

I went to a legit high school, top 25 in the nation pretty much every year. Did not start at qb but did hold for 3 years. And even in college it's always 6-7 yards because the basic geometry of the gunners.

 

[akphidelt]

I went to a legit high school, top 25 in the nation pretty much every year. Did not start at qb but did hold for 3 years. And even in college it's always 6-7 yards because the basic geometry of the gunners.

But maybe with the NFL wide bodies they can step back a yard. That xpt by the eagles the holder looked pretty close to the 23 yard line

 

[HarryCaray]

Yeah they're clearly holding it 8 yards back. So I guess the question is why 8 instead of the usual 7.

 

[CHOPTALK]

You are looking at it wrong hc.
You only add 10 yards from the spot of the kick because the end zone is 10 yards. So if you spot it at the 20 it's a 30 yard fg.
Where the 17 yard thing comes in is due to placing the ball 7 yards behind the Los for the snap.

If a team throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 10 from the 20 it would be a 37 yard fg because even though the Los is the 20 they hike the ball and the holder will be 7 yards back from the Los at the 27 then you add 10 more for the endzone and that's how you get your 17 yards

 

[HarryCaray]

You are looking at it wrong hc.
You only add 10 yards from the spot of the kick because the end zone is 10 yards. So if you spot it at the 20 it's a 30 yard fg.
Where the 17 yard thing comes in is due to placing the ball 7 yards behind the Los for the snap.

If a team throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 10 from the 20 it would be a 37 yard fg because even though the Los is the 20 they hike the ball and the holder will be 7 yards back from the Los at the 27 then you add 10 more for the endzone and that's how you get your 17 yards

I'm not looking at it wrong I follow exactly what you're saying. You always added 17 yards from the spot...10 for the end zone and 7 for the hold.

Now it is 18 yards on this extra point. They snap it from the 15 and they keep saying it is 33 yards. If you look closely they are holding it at the 23...8 yards back from the snap. So why are they holding it from 8 yards back instead of the usual 7?

 

[HarryCaray]

Either way it's dumb but not NEARLY as dumb as all these friggin defensive contact penalties. Almost unwatchable.

 

[CHOPTALK]

My bad I was looking at it wrong

 

[CHOPTALK]

Either way it's dumb but not NEARLY as dumb as all these friggin defensive contact penalties. Almost unwatchable.

If the regular season gets called this way it will fundamentally change the game.

 

[powerz]

If the regular season gets called this way it will fundamentally change the game.

next year - not this year

 

[CHOPTALK]

next year - not this year

Im talking about the defensive holding which goes into effect this season

 

[slapshot]

maybe just not trying to mess up the timing thing IDK but extra points are always from the 10 so that's 8 just a guess

 

[terps1313]

Pretty sure they have been bringing it back 8 yds for years now.