Thank you Mr.Obama for your service!

[RedWhiteBlue]

The first President in decades who served without being involved in a major scandal. Class act.

The bumbling Bush had 9/11 during his watch, the imaginary weapons of mass destruction and his failure to capture Osama. Instead he chose to go after Saddam and we all know what that caused...Probably the worst president of our time and maybe in history. Clinton (although a good president) had the Monica affair. Mr.Obama avoided any major scandal during his 8 years.

Thank you for killing Osama Bin Laden! Another key part of your legacy after 8 years. Well done sir.

Thank you for regulating big banks.

Thank you for everything. As a Republican I'm proud to have voted for you, a Democrat.

Now, back to Trump. I was heartbroken that I had to vote for Trump. I had no choice. Hilary was not right for the job and Trump basically won by default going against such a weak opponent. Sure I could've have not voted or wasted my vote but that was not smart. I chose the lesser evil.

To Democrats I'd say give Trump a chance. He's said some idiotic things. I hope he cracks down on crime hard. I don't care if his scandal ends up being conflict of interest scandals. (foreign interests already booking his hotels which he's admitted but claims he's not managing his mangers and kids are..right but in the end it still fills his pockets) I don't care about that. I do care and worry that he might give Americans cancer and other birth defects with his ambition to take down many regulations and wait times for plants etc. Comparing our long wait times to China's and other countries. Well let's compare cancer rates from pollution too then shall we? Scary business. He doesn't seem to concerned about the planet.

He talks big and he might end up being the worst president ever or one of the best ever. I'm curious. I'm excited. I think a lot of people voted for him cause he'd be different. Shake things up. Let's see what he does.Democrats and Republicans need to support each other and put differences aside. Many of you are just too extreme. Lighten up. Politicians all said and done do some bad some good but won't affect our lives as much as they promise during campaigns. Don't be naive. They are mostly in it for themselves and lining their pockets. Yet I see so many on here almost blowing a gasket over it. Relax! Lol

Some of the things said about Obama by Republicans or about Trump by Democrats is downright disgusting. These men represent America like it or not. They ARE America in a sense. A jab here and there or a name call sure. But borderline racist calls to Mr.Obama and even his wife and kids is classless and it's low brow.

For Trump it's even worse because it's not only him getting the name calling it's his supporters getting despised. Enough already I say!

I'm excited to see what Trump does. Keep in mind the party in power changes and will keep changing. We still all have to function together in a society.

Thank you Mr.Obama and family. You've left your legacy as the first black president ever and have paved the way for many more minority leaders to come. God bless you and your family.

 

[Willie99]

A day after the election, CNN’s Amanda Carpenter aptly noted that while the rest of the Democratic Party’s confidence that their Obama coalition could bring about consistent wins in national elections, Republicans were eating Democrats alive up and down the ballot.
“Who thought Obama’s legacy would be the destruction of the Democratic Party,” she said after President-elect Donald J. Trump’s upset win over Clinton.

 

[Willie99]

Over the past eight years, especially during times when President Obama was not on the ballot, Democrats have seen major electoral setbacks at both the state and federal level.
Sean Trende and David Byler calculated that the Republican Party is now in the strongest position it has been in 80 years.
"Obama and the political structure of America have been left standing — but nearly 1,000 Democratic officeholders have been defeated," noted one New York Post columnist the week before the election.
"Democrats hope a good showing on Tuesday will win back five Senate seats and maybe 15 House seats, but relative to their party's losses since 2009, that's like a bandage on an amputation."
Below, in no particular order, are four areas where the Democratic Party has suffered setbacks since the election of Obama.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/d...ck-obama-election-171598/#y8FQRMJFvh3WEJLZ.99

 

[Willie99]

1. Congress
(Photo: REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst)The U.S. Capitol dome and U.S. Senate in Washington.In 2009, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. For the 111th Congress, which went from 2009 to 2011, the Democrats had 257 members in the House of Representatives and 57 members in the Senate.
By the 2016 election, the Democrats had their numbers in the House reduced to 188 members, with them picking up five seats to bump up to 193 by next year.
And while the 2016 election saw Democrats get 2 extra seats in the Senate, at a total of 48, it still leaves them without the majority they once had.

2. Governors
Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin speaks in Lexington, Kentucky in May 2014.Democrats have 10 fewer governorships in 2016 than they did in 2008, reducing their total number of state executives from 28 to 18.
A couple of instances they lost a governor's mansion only to gain it back later. This was the case for Virginia, they lost the governorship in 2009 when Republican Bob McDonnell won only to reclaim it in 2012 when Democrat Terry McAuliffe was elected.
In a Politico story published in February of 2015, Democratic governors attributed the losses experienced in 2014 specifically to a few factors, including "bad luck, bad timing and an unpopular president."
"Republicans now control 31 governor's mansions, their highest total since 1999 and three shy of their high-water mark since the turn of the 20th Century," reported Politico last year.
"There are only 18 Democratic governors left across the nation, and the survivors have some theories about why Democrats have been swept out of statehouses all over the country in recent years. But none of them are about the substance of the party's policies."

3. State Legislatures
Protesters rally before the start of a special session of the Legislature in Austin, Texas, July 1, 2013.In 2008, Democrats controlled both chambers of 27 state legislatures and had split control over 8 other state legislatures, while Republicans controlled both chambers of 14 state legislatures.
By 2015, the number of Democratically-controlled state legislators had plummeted to 11 while the Republicans' number increased to 30 state legislatures.
Nebraska, the only state with a one-house legislature, has as of November 2016 a Republican majority, with the GOP holding 35 seats versus 12 seats for Democrats and 2 seats for other political designations.
In a 2015 piece, the Pew Research Center's "Fact Tank" blog noted that Republican gains in 2010 were not excluded to Congress.
"The Republicans' big 2010 gains weren't just in Congress: They picked up nearly 700 legislative seats and won full control of 25 state legislatures (up from 14), putting them in a strong position to influence post-census redistricting," noted Pew.
"Although they weren't able to retake the White House in 2012, the party extended and solidified its congressional and legislative gains in the 2014 midterm elections."

4. State Trifecta Control
People vote in the presidential primary at a polling place in Crossway Christian Church in Nashua, New Hampshire, February 9, 2016.FREE SIGN UP CP NEWSLETTER!

According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, in early 2009 Democrats had 17 state trifectas while Republicans had nine.
However, by 2016 the number of state trifectas the Democrats held was reduced to six: California, Delaware, Hawaii, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Washington State. Republicans now have 24, plus Nebraska's unicameral legislature and governorship, with North Carolina still undecided.
In the 2016 election, Republicans were able to add four more state governments — Iowa, Kentucky, Missouri, and New Hampshire — to their list of state trifectas.
"While Democrats picked up a trifecta in one state, they lost trifectas in two others," reported the New York Times last week.
"The losses are a harsh rebuke to President Obama's call in October for Democrats to make gains in state legislatures when it appeared that Donald J. Trump's campaign was stumbling."

 

[MantisToboggan]

"Sumday" we will all learn to ignore this guy when he pops up.

 

[Willie99]

While the American people seemingly love their vacationer in chief that loves to play golf and pick NCAA brackets, they have rejected his policy and his party. The unprecedented havoc he's brought to the democratic party is all the proof one needs to learn who the people think is the worst president ever. They rejected him from the very beginning, when the ultra liberal state of MA took a legacy Senate seat from him in a vein attempt to stop Obamacare. They rejected him in 2010, 2014 and 2016. They rejected him with their Senate votes, they rejected him with their House votes, they rejected him in state after state, they rejected him anywhere and everywhere he could be rejected save for a few "safe" democratic cities.

It appears the people like him personally, but they voted against him up and down the ticket throughout this entire country

 

[Willie99]

"Sumday" we will all learn to ignore this guy when he pops up.

y'know, I never thought of Sumday or any of his others ghosts to be reasoned in any of their prior appearances. I always found them to be outwardly abrasive (like I am when I'm when I'm playing around and pushing buttons) and diametrically opposed to anything I believe

I sometimes agree with this guy and he doesn't seem to be outwardly abrasive

Although the threads he starts are all over the place and sometimes head-scratching (like casting Charlize Theron in Basic Instinct)

 

[MantisToboggan]

y'know, I never thought of Sumday or any of his others ghosts to be reasoned in any of their prior appearances. I always found them to be outwardly abrasive (like I am when I'm when I'm playing around and pushing buttons) and diametrically opposed to anything I believe

I sometimes agree with this guy and he doesn't seem to be outwardly abrasive

Although the threads he starts are all over the place and sometimes head-scratching (like casting Charlize Theron in Basic Instinct)

I could be wrong, but I'd bet it's him. He always manages to keep it together for a week or two until the crazy comes out.

 

[Greenbacks]

It`s the most wonderful time in 8 years

Get lost and take your ugly gorilla looking wife with you.

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

I think many of the people on this site like willie and a few others have the same mindset as the crazy Islamic extremists though much more harmless. I've discussed this in one of my classes. These right wing fanatics truly believe they are being objective and reasonable. They truly believe they own extremists views. They are 1 step away from being those lunatic rednecks in the woods fighting against the government.

It is truly a wonderful time but will it remain or is it just wishful thinking by optimists such as myself?

For people that believe Obama's legacy is the destruction of the Democratic party they are really delusional and in denial. The Democratic party will be fine. In fact many political studies have proven that the Republican party is not going to last or win much at all in the future. If we can't comprehend the fact that Trump only won because he went against Hilary, a lame duck, then the mental state of extremist far right loonies is more delusional that I thought.

Some of your far righties make normal, educated, sensible righties such as myself look bad. YOU willie and other small band of fanatics that have gathered here bring my cause down.

You need to learn to be more moderate because studies show that aside from this hiccup due to a doomed candidate, the democratic party will win and bounce back big time. I'd prefer a republican win but as for the far right thinking, it's a dying cause just cause of the population and demographics of the U.S.A in today's time.

I don't know how else to explain it to you people. You need to step out of yourselves and see you are nothing more than racist fear mongering people that are in denial about how extreme you are. Just like the crazy Islamic extremists, but again, thankfully you people are way more harmless. Spreading hate on a forum where maybe a 100 people read your hate messages isn't doing much damage at all.

Thank you again Mr.Obama. Class act as is Trump surprisingly so far since he won the election. I knew his extreme comments during the election was just him appealing to the lowest form of life, the uneducated rednecks and racist struggling middle income earners. It worked. I didn't buy it though. I understand the game. I let that tactic fly and still voted for him and as I figured, he backed down on those extreme promises.

Good luck Trump. I'm very excited to see what you can do. The rest of you can bicker and spread hate all you'd like, we are all insignificant in the scheme of things.

cheers!

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

My questions to you posters is, making gorilla wife type comments is EXACTLY where we republicans are viewed as hateful and racists and dangerous. That's EXACTLY why are guy that isn't full on right or full on left,when on the fence during voting,goes for the left, cause the left take these far right comments and scares the undecided voter into going for the so called friendly liberal party.

You guys don't understand, and maybe we aren't so insignificant after all, I take that back. I WANT the republican party to gain a strangle hood and RIGHT this country. But if you for once second think we won the war because Trump beat a lame duck Hilary then do you blame me for thinking you are delusional? We have a long fight and it's fact you can't ignore. The democrats WILL bounce back with a credible and decent candidate. You can't deny this. We need to be proud but gracious in victory.

You have any idea how many undecided voters are out there? Do you have any idea how many new immigrants and new voters that turned 18 that don't know anything about the republicans or democrats there are? They don't take the time to learn about the parties, many of them get persuaded by the left to vote left cause it's the proper and normal thing to do. The left uses racist or low brow remarks from far right lunatics as they like to describe them,to reel in the undecided voters. Think I'm being paranoid? I see it happen all the time personally. undecided voter at a social gathering makes comment about not sure who to vote for and immediately lefties fill his brain about how evil and racist and uneducated the right is.

I'm for the Republican party but I'm not for cheap shot low brow racist remarks against the President for any reason,Im not for far right fanaticism.

Let's keep in mind that kids growing up today mostly go to schools and especially universities where it's right to think left, if you are a righty many times you're shunned as a racist dinosaur. So many kids even after growing up right in their homes, turn left. Much more so than the other way around. I've read many studies on this believe me.

It starts with us. Show some class. Show some objectivity. Lead by example and don't use 'look at how the democrats are behaving' as an excuse. two wrongs don't make a right and we hold ourselves to a better standard. We won the battle but we are losing the war,I understand that better than most of you. Trust me on that. Think longer term than just the 4 years, 8 if we are lucky because the dems putup a lame duck candidate.

I don't know how else to put it. Attack me all you want I have thick skin. I laugh it off.

God Bless you all.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I think many of the people on this site like willie and a few others have the same mindset as the crazy Islamic extremists though much more harmless. I've discussed this in one of my classes. These right wing fanatics truly believe they are being objective and reasonable. They truly believe they own extremists views. They are 1 step away from being those lunatic rednecks in the woods fighting against the government.

It is truly a wonderful time but will it remain or is it just wishful thinking by optimists such as myself?

For people that believe Obama's legacy is the destruction of the Democratic party they are really delusional and in denial. The Democratic party will be fine. In fact many political studies have proven that the Republican party is not going to last or win much at all in the future. If we can't comprehend the fact that Trump only won because he went against Hilary, a lame duck, then the mental state of extremist far right loonies is more delusional that I thought.

Some of your far righties make normal, educated, sensible righties such as myself look bad. YOU willie and other small band of fanatics that have gathered here bring my cause down.

You need to learn to be more moderate because studies show that aside from this hiccup due to a doomed candidate, the democratic party will win and bounce back big time. I'd prefer a republican win but as for the far right thinking, it's a dying cause just cause of the population and demographics of the U.S.A in today's time.

I don't know how else to explain it to you people. You need to step out of yourselves and see you are nothing more than racist fear mongering people that are in denial about how extreme you are. Just like the crazy Islamic extremists, but again, thankfully you people are way more harmless. Spreading hate on a forum where maybe a 100 people read your hate messages isn't doing much damage at all.

Thank you again Mr.Obama. Class act as is Trump surprisingly so far since he won the election. I knew his extreme comments during the election was just him appealing to the lowest form of life, the uneducated rednecks and racist struggling middle income earners. It worked. I didn't buy it though. I understand the game. I let that tactic fly and still voted for him and as I figured, he backed down on those extreme promises.

Good luck Trump. I'm very excited to see what you can do. The rest of you can bicker and spread hate all you'd like, we are all insignificant in the scheme of things.

cheers!

Do you by any chance teach English at the University of Puget Sound?

 

[MantisToboggan]

No chance Sumday is teaching a class. The author above is borderline illiterate.

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

If my posts are incoherent or resembles something from somebody other than a refined, and highly educated individual, I would advise you to consider the fact that I am not here to impress anybody with my intellect. Furthermore, I type many of these posts out in a matter of seconds. Literally seconds while on coffee break or on the run.

I admit they aren't concise. I admit sometimes I am all over the page. However, I'm sure I do convey my point for the most part so no need to complain. You should be able to keep up.

It's common for posters on the internet to attack grammar or spelling errors. To make comments about parent's basements and troll somebody for no reason. Or to claim that a new poster is in fact, a ghost of so and so.

Forget all that. Take it for face value. If you don't like what's posted don't comment? Why waste your time just to post something negative or derogatory? Isn't that just trolling? Does it make you feel better or smarter to point out a missed comma,,,,, or missssspppelled word? Lol. Really guys, be adult.

It's the internet. We have to put up with all types that have the power of anonymity so they spout out whatever pops into their feeble minds. It's entertainment of sorts.

 

[Willie99]

I think many of the people on this site like willie and a few others have the same mindset as the crazy Islamic extremists though much more harmless. I've discussed this in one of my classes. These right wing fanatics truly believe they are being objective and reasonable. They truly believe they own extremists views. They are 1 step away from being those lunatic rednecks in the woods fighting against the government.

It is truly a wonderful time but will it remain or is it just wishful thinking by optimists such as myself?

For people that believe Obama's legacy is the destruction of the Democratic party they are really delusional and in denial. The Democratic party will be fine. In fact many political studies have proven that the Republican party is not going to last or win much at all in the future. If we can't comprehend the fact that Trump only won because he went against Hilary, a lame duck, then the mental state of extremist far right loonies is more delusional that I thought.

Some of your far righties make normal, educated, sensible righties such as myself look bad. YOU willie and other small band of fanatics that have gathered here bring my cause down.

You need to learn to be more moderate because studies show that aside from this hiccup due to a doomed candidate, the democratic party will win and bounce back big time. I'd prefer a republican win but as for the far right thinking, it's a dying cause just cause of the population and demographics of the U.S.A in today's time.

I don't know how else to explain it to you people. You need to step out of yourselves and see you are nothing more than racist fear mongering people that are in denial about how extreme you are. Just like the crazy Islamic extremists, but again, thankfully you people are way more harmless. Spreading hate on a forum where maybe a 100 people read your hate messages isn't doing much damage at all.

Thank you again Mr.Obama. Class act as is Trump surprisingly so far since he won the election. I knew his extreme comments during the election was just him appealing to the lowest form of life, the uneducated rednecks and racist struggling middle income earners. It worked. I didn't buy it though. I understand the game. I let that tactic fly and still voted for him and as I figured, he backed down on those extreme promises.

Good luck Trump. I'm very excited to see what you can do. The rest of you can bicker and spread hate all you'd like, we are all insignificant in the scheme of things.

cheers!

did you know? my argument that Obama destroyed the Democratic Party is based on math, pure, simple, undiluted math

there are nearly 1,000 fewer democrats holding federal and state elected offices since Obama came into power

they lost the Presidency, the Senate and the House at the federal level

they lost Governor seats and control of state legislators at state level



what do you have against facts and simple math? neither of which qualifies as delusional

for the mindset of Islamic extremists comment,

it's official, you're an idiot (to think I was actually cutting this guy some slack)

won't be reading his drivel much longer, I get bored rather quickly nowadays

 

[festeringZit]

It's Jaguara again...

 

[TomGshotput]

Over the past eight years, especially during times when President Obama was not on the ballot, Democrats have seen major electoral setbacks at both the state and federal level.

“Who thought Obama’s legacy would be the destruction of the Democratic Party,” she said after President-elect Donald J. Trump’s upset win over Clinton.

They rejected him in 2010, 2014 and 2016.

Let me get this straight: When Obama is on the ballot the Democrats do great and crush the Republicans. When Obama is not on the ballot the Republicans crush the Democrats. Yet somehow he's the one hurting the party.

If we look at how the Democrats did in 2010. 2014 and 2016, it's clear Obama was their one star and most everyone else they put on the ballot were the failures. The logic you're using is like looking the 76ers and saying Joel Embiid is the reason they're losing. No. He's the reason they're 7-20 instead of 1-26.

 

[Willie99]

Let me get this straight: When Obama is on the ballot the Democrats do great and crush the Republicans. When Obama is not on the ballot the Republicans crush the Democrats. Yet somehow he's the one hurting the party.

If we look at how the Democrats did in 2010. 2014 and 2016, it's clear Obama was their one star and most everyone else they put on the ballot were the failures. The logic you're using is like looking the 76ers and saying Joel Embiid is the reason they're losing. No. He's the reason they're 7-20 instead of 1-26.

His policies were rejected across the boards, that's simply undeniable

his party lost everything, everything, as in everything, it's silly to argue he's not complicit in their losses

in 2012, he himself lost every income demographic over 50k, the working taxpayers denied him a second term


he won because of a record high urban vote with a 93/5 margin

if you think that's your path to victory on a consistent basis, forgetaboutit

at the end of the day, failure still matters to most, just not to those that need success to survive. They just need government programs

 

[MantisToboggan]

"Sumday" we will all learn to ignore this guy when he pops up.

It's Jaguara again...

Zit sees it. Scott had it right away.

 

[Willie99]

Zit sees it. Scott had it right away.

I guess I'm not a very good ghost buster, but my memory of those guys is one of very abrasive interaction

looks like it's trending that way now