Texas SCREWED AND LOSES BCS due to OU getting 2 first place Coaches' votes, period.

[hippieki11er]

This is a complete and utter crime.

Any non-partisan CFB fan MUST DEMAND to know which coaches voted OU first place over Alabama.

If that LOSER Mike Stoops turns out to be one of them, there should be an investigation.

Every coach, media outlet, and writer KNEW that this was going to come down to a HUMAN VOTE, so who in their RIGHT MIND and GOOD CONSCIENCE could give one-loss OU a first place vote over undefeated, SEC Alabama?

Alabama needed to be a consensus #1 on every coaches' ballot and then UT and OU needed to battle out for the 2nd and 3rd place votes, period. This is the only right and fair way it could've been decided, but two coaches decided to SCREW the entire system and fans.

WHO ARE THESE TWO COACHES?

 

[ou_guy]

dude neither mike stoops or bob stoops voted will you give it up

 

[Cusipz]

What's funny, is only the LAST coaches poll is made public. So any coach can do shady things with this vote... Then do a 'normal' vote for the last, public vote.

Nobody expected this 2nd to last vote to mean anything....

 

[GoSooners]

I can't tell you who voted OU and Florida number 1 in the coaches poll. But I can tell you who didn't. Both Stoops brothers are class acts just like Mack Brown. And neither would vote OU number 1.








Sunday, November 30, 2008
OU football coach Bob Stoops declines coaches poll vote
OU football Sooner mentor won’t discuss reasons


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BY MIKE BALDWIN
Published: November 25, 2008

Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops turned down an opportunity to vote in the coaches USA Today/ESPN poll but Monday declined to discuss his reasons why.

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"I’m not going to get into that because then it becomes a story,” Stoops said. "I don’t think that’s fair. We have enough to deal with Oklahoma State this week.”
Since the coaches poll could have an impact which team plays for the Big 12 title, possibly the national title, does he regret turning down a chance to vote?
"Probably,” Stoops said.
But not having a vote in the coaches’ poll doesn’t mean Stoops can’t have his say. He was doing plenty of campaigning for his team on Monday. Stoops praised his team and its achievements on ESPN Radio’s "Mike and Mike” morning show and later on ESPN’s College Football Live with Reece Davis.
If the Sooners, Longhorns and Red Raiders all win this week, tied at 7-1 in league play, the highest-ranked team in the Nov. 30 BCS rankings will be declared the South champion. "It’s always difficult (to vote),” Stoops said. "There are arguments for and against everybody. Not just us but anyone that has one loss. That’s just the way it is. Most logic goes to who is doing what down the stretch or who is playing well right now.”

 

[royboy_3831]

i already told you leach was one of them... you'll see next week when the vote is made public.

we still love ya here in norman mike! :cripwalk:

 

[hippieki11er]

dude neither mike stoops or bob stoops voted will you give it up

I'm asking WHO the coaches were and was SPECULATING if Mike Stoops was one of them.

The point here is that 2 coaches broke the unwritten rule here and I want to know who they are. If you don't care, move on to another discussion.

You're a blind homer and your opinion means absolutely nothing to me or the other serious CFB fans out there who simply want to see what's the MOST fair and believes in head-to-head results as the ultimate indicator.

I've already said countless times over the last month here that I believe OU is the better overall team than UT, but that's not the point. UT beat the better team and thus deserves to go to the Big 12 CCG, it's the only right thing to do in this very unique situation and the only solution that anyone with a conscience outside of Norman, Oklahoma could support.

 

[Uno]

i don't fault bob stoops for the failure of the system or the failure of his team against texas.

45-35

 

[OTK]

Oklahoma deserves to go in my opinion. I'll be hoping they lose to Mizzou though so USC has a shot at the title.

 

[ou_guy]

i don't fault bob stoops for the failure of the system or the failure of his team against texas.

45-35

aw no big 12 or NC for u :lol:

 

[GoSooners]

i don't fault bob stoops for the failure of the system or the failure of his team against texas.

45-35

Just like we don't fault Texas lost against Texas Tech.

 

[hippieki11er]

i already told you leach was one of them... you'll see next week when the vote is made public.

I'm 99% sure that Cuspiz is right and that we'll only find-out the LAST coaches' poll vote of the season which happens next week.

Again, the non-partisan CFB fan MUST DEMAND to know the breakdown of today's vote, it's only fair.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

The system sucks & wanting to see who voted for who does absolutely nothing. If the voting was legit to begin with, an undefeated Alabama team wouldn't lose 1st place votes when they are the ONLY BCS Conference team to be undefeated.

OU deserved to go. The Longhorn homers don't want to admit they got helped to win that game. Lets take that out of the picture for a bit & look at the H2H results they want to obsess over.

Texas beat OU (with help), barely beat Ohio State, & were lucky to lose by such a slim margin to Texas Tech.

OU lost to Texas (with unfortunate help), dominated Texas Tech & eventually pulled away from a good Oklahoma State team.

Only biased Longhorn fans would claim they accomplished more. If you are going to use H2H as your main point, Texas Tech has just as much to complain about.

Throw in their wins over a strong TCU team & BCS Conference champion in Cincinnati. Oklahoma has the more impressive resume. Sorry Texas but you didn't deserve the shot so deal with it.

 

[OnWisconsin]

The system sucks & wanting to see who voted for who does absolutely nothing. If the voting was legit to begin with, an undefeated Alabama team wouldn't lose 1st place votes when they are the ONLY BCS Conference team to be undefeated.

OU deserved to go. The Longhorn homers don't want to admit they got helped to win that game. Lets take that out of the picture for a bit & look at the H2H results they want to obsess over.

Texas beat OU (with help), barely beat Ohio State, & were lucky to lose by such a slim margin to Texas Tech.

OU lost to Texas (with unfortunate help), dominated Texas Tech & eventually pulled away from a good Oklahoma State team.

Only biased Longhorn fans would claim they accomplished more. If you are going to use H2H as your main point, Texas Tech has just as much to complain about.

Throw in their wins over a strong TCU team & BCS Conference champion in Cincinnati. Oklahoma has the more impressive resume. Sorry Texas but you didn't deserve the shot so deal with it.

hey, you gotta admit texas was impressive with their non con wins over rice, fla atl, arkansas and utep....

 

[sarcean]

For the Texas fans, if OU loses in the big12 championship...Texas will go to the title game.

So there is still hope

 

[hippieki11er]

If the voting was legit to begin with, an undefeated Alabama team wouldn't lose 1st place votes when they are the ONLY BCS Conference team to be undefeated.

Right, that's exactly my point here, so we're in complete and total agreement. Of course the system sucks, we all know that, so GIVEN what we ALL know, I personally find it a CRIME that two coaches would take it upon themselves to vote this way, damn well knowing that their fraudulent 1st place votes for one-loss OU over undefeated Alabama could make a difference.

We're not talking about which coaches voted OU and UT #2 and #3 and vice-versa, we're talking about the ONLY UNDEFEATED BCS TEAM in Alabama not getting 2 first place votes from 2 different head coaches!

And I want to know just WHO these 2 coaches are. I ALSO want to see their ENTIRE ballot. Just how FAR below #1 OU did they have Texas? Was Texas #3 behind #2 Bama on their ballots? Or was Texas maybe #4 behind #2 Bama and #3 Florida on their ballots? You do realize each position on a ballot represents a certain number of points, right? And OU finished with an overall 1 point lead in the #2 position, 1 unbelievable point. See where I'm going with this?

I decided not to quote or respond to the rest of your post because you know the only team I'm loyal to USC and thus I'm not the "blind longhorn homer" you're alluding to. I simply want to see what's right happen and head-to-head absolutely MUST be the ultimate tiebreaker in the minds of voters when they vote. And it WAS, except in the minds of all but 2 coaches. And I want to know just who they are.

 

[fivestarjake]

For the Texas fans, if OU loses in the big12 championship...Texas will go to the title game.

So there is still hope

who says usc wont go instead?

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Right, that's exactly my point here, so we're in complete and total agreement. Of course the system sucks, we all know that, so GIVEN what we ALL know, I personally find it a CRIME that two coaches would take it upon themselves to vote this way, damn well knowing that their fraudulent 1st place votes for one-loss OU over undefeated Alabama could make a difference.

We're not talking about which coaches voted OU and UT #2 and #3 and vice-versa, we're talking about the ONLY UNDEFEATED BCS TEAM in Alabama not getting 2 first place votes from 2 different head coaches!

And I want to know just WHO these 2 coaches are. I ALSO want to see their ENTIRE ballot. Just how FAR below #1 OU did they have Texas? Was Texas #3 behind #2 Bama on their ballots? Or was Texas maybe #4 behind #2 Bama and #3 Florida on their ballots? You do realize each position on a ballot represents a certain number of points, right? See where I'm going with this?

I decided not to quote or respond to the rest of your post because you know the only team I'm loyal to USC and thus I'm not the "blind longhorn homer" you're alluding to. I simply want to see what's right happen and head-to-head absolutely MUST be the ultimate tiebreaker.

Well I am sure we both agree that USC is truly the best team in the country & would be a big favorite in a playoff format.

I don't think Texas belong there to be honest considering the resumes. If they are going to use H2H as a true definition point, Texas Tech as every right to feel they were snubbed as well since they technically were.

The fact that the BCS standings were the tiebreaker shows what is wrong with the system. I find it hard to believe they could not use a more logical tiebreaker for all 3 teams.

Lastly you have to remember that many felt Oklahoma was the better team even after losing to Texas. I for one feel that way.

 

[FairWarning]

Well I am sure we both agree that USC is truly the best team in the country & would be a big favorite in a playoff format.

I don't think Texas belong there to be honest considering the resumes. If they are going to use H2H as a true definition point, Texas Tech as every right to feel they were snubbed as well since they technically were.

The fact that the BCS standings were the tiebreaker shows what is wrong with the system. I find it hard to believe they could not use a more logical tiebreaker for all 3 teams.

Lastly you have to remember that many felt Oklahoma was the better team even after losing to Texas. I for one feel that way.

BCS ranking was the 5th tie-breaker.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

BCS ranking was the 5th tie-breaker.

What were the other 4? I find it hard to believe they needed to go 5 deep for a tiebreaker.

 

[Skulldrag]

everygamblers dream, to say that USC is the best team, your an idiot. who in the hell has USC beat? lost to a so so Oregon St. team & to say that Texas doesn't deserve to be there, thats another idiot comment. you keep crying that the refs gave the game to Texas, unreal. maybe, if Florida beats Bama, maybe Oklahoma & Texas can play for all the marbles. i doubt that will happen, but what if.