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Could it be. Texas at home is going to continue to be a beast. I know it's still early in the week, but I think the 'horns win this one by at least 4 touchdowns.. again!
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ECU at Miami, does anyone know what the greatest spread ever recorded is? Will Vegas take this off the board if it gets up into the 50's or 60's. I stand by the statement that ECU is one of if not THE WORST team in division 1A football (Indiana a close second). Phew, think is going to be the first time anyone scored 100 points in a game since Mouse Davis was running the vaunted 'run and shoot' at Houston playing in the astrodome (remember those days?), ok maybe since wilt scored 100. Either way, this WILL be a 60 point loss for the pirates. Sorry!

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I totally agree with both of these calls

Ark defense is average at best, Tulsa gained a ton of yards against them

E.C. is as bad as Tulsa and the Canes can name the score
 

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ark/texas

very storied history with these two teams....

ark/texas is one of the games where you can throw previous records, current talent, everything that would seem to matter out the window...........

usually when these two teams meet, the opposite of what you would expect happens......
 

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I will look into texas -13...thanks for the write up
 

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Texas wants revenge for the ass whooping given to them by Arkansas in the 2000 Cotton Bowl, and the horns down sign displayed by Coach Nutt. In that game the Razorbacks held Texas to minus-27 yards rushing, a total that included a deduction of 64 yards from eight sacks. It remains the worst rushing performance UT has put up in its 1,106 games.
This Arkansas team is loaded with talent and is very physical. Don't use their unspirited defensive play last week as a measuring stick.
 

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ECU these guys have been brutal for 3 years. Remember there 2nd 1/2 COLLAPSES over the last 2 seasons? Yes they suck and Miami - ??? 1st 1/2 may be a play for me...

As far as Texas GOOD LUCK! I don't play the horns for or against often...
 

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I get a LOT of info on Texas. I have just begun to put things together but here are some early notables:

ARK has good DB's. They may plan to stack against the run. Last year LSU, NEB, and errr Baylor used single coverage against our receivers and Roy Williams caught 25 for 475 for 4 TD's. Chance looked sharp against NMST, he didnt force any balls and got rid of it if it wasnt there. In game one last year vs NT Benson had 49 yards rushing, in game two the amount rose to 208 vs NC. A bit misleading but IMO the offensive line has not been a strength at UT and will get better by the game. Ark allowed 212 rushing yds vs Tulsa last week. Not sure if this is tell-tale as surely ARK kept a lot of defensive packages hidden. UT expects a lot of blitzes and zone coverages that they havent shown yet.

Chance says that Texas "cant run the same 5 plays" that they did vs NMST. The gameplan was VERY conservative vs NMST. I have been to practices and I know some of the arsenal. If the playcalling is good (it has not been for the last 2-3 years, more the O-coordinator than Mack fwiw) Texas should cover this game IF they dont lose the turnover battle. I typically wager more against Texas than for them, hype and the actual spread are correlated as the lines are based on perception.

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as info goes. I may add some more if I have time. This is what I think right now. I think that ARK blitzes a lot, and that leads to some easy TD's for UT. Chance is a good runner, and he is very physical. Vincent Young should see some time and they should send him in unannounced to foil defensive schemes. If you dont know who Vince is, look in the dictionary under the words fast, quick, and option. I havent looked as closely at the Ark offense yet, I would appreciate any info you may have on them. Right now I am leaning to Texas -13, we dont particularly care for them, and we sent them out of the SWC by going for two even after we had a big lead. Home field advantage is better now than I can remember. I look for more consistency from this Longhorn team.
 

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take 40 or more points anytime you can in NCAA football. I'm surprised people are not more aware of this.
 

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Arkansas hired OC Roy Witke to add some wrinkles and plays to their passing game. Ark. led the SEC in rushing last year, but was one dimensional in a lot of games. Witke's impact should be seen Saturday. You'll see alot more use of the big tight end Jason Peters, and you'll see QB M Jones lining up at receiver with Sorahan at QB. At 6'7", 4.4 speed, and 38" vertical, his future at the next level is at receiver. The Longwhorns will have their hands full stopping him.
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i'm not trying to down texas, even though i am a loyal sooner fan, but i think there are better games on the board than this one. you can't judge anything from texas' first win. it was against n.mex.st. in the past i've always bet on texas at home, but i'm afraid i'm gonna have to lay off this one or lean towards arkansas. arkansas has proven in the past that they are very talented on both sides of the ball and i promise you the game speed will be much faster and more physical than the glorified scrimmage against n.mex.st. even though i took the horns the opening weekend, i'll be hesitant to bet them until the two young qb's prove they can get it done against a real team. just my two cents. good luck
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Texas still hanging around -13 and probably won't see a move one way or the other until Saturday morning. I am surprised to see as much support for Ark as there is on the board. If Tulsa was able to pile up the rushing yardage vs. the Hogs.
Texas has had a week off to prepare for this game, and they will be at home.

I think the "D"ifference this year is going to be the Texas defense. Arkansas is a run oriented team and has a great back in Cobb, but I think the improved front 7 of the Horns will win the battle up front. Ark will not be a great comback team if they get behind early.

Texas has an explosive offense that can run and hit you with the big play through the air. Ark is very one dimensional. Both teams have solid D but the game is in Texas and that will be a factor as well.

Oh, and if your not convinced yet, remember that Chris Simms is gone!
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The horns should roll!

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i think "intangibles" play a bigger role in this rivalry than most people that are unfamiliar with the old SWC realize.......

revenge, motivation, pride, emotions.......these elements can be just as strong handicapping factors as hard-core stats when you talk about college football..

who will be the "more focused" team?

you could make an argument for Texas, ranked #2, sights set on a national championship.....revenge for the Cotton bowl loss to Arkansas in '99. playing at home in Austin (btw there are more u of a alumni that live in Dallas, than in Little rock or Fayetteville combined....so Arkansas will have plenty of fan support)

Houston Nutt played for the hogs, so did all the men in his family, the history of this game is thoroughly ingrained in him....Mack Brown is at a decided disadvantage there is no way he can have his players as pumped up, as Houston can...

the last time texas was this highly ranked (last time #1) and played ark...texas was beaten by 4 touchdowns.........yes that was years ago..........but history does tend to repeat itself..........
 

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12---I'm a loyal Longhorn fan, and didn't like the way they started the last game vs. NMST. I believe they will unload on Arkansas at home, especially early in the game. 13 points is easy to cover, when you can score on offense, defense, and especially special teams. Hookem' to the bank.
 

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Not only will Texass fail to cover, they'll fail to win. Hogs want this game more than the shorthorns. Hogs by 7. Read if you want...


By KEITH WHITMIRE / The Dallas Morning News

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. – Arkansas coach Houston Nutt knows all the coaching clichés: Treat every opponent the same. Don't get too high or too low. Take them one game at a time.

But mention Texas, and the reverence in his voice says it all. He gets excited about facing the Longhorns, and isn't afraid to admit it.

"Oh, absolutely," Nutt said. "It goes back to the fact you're raised with it, you're born and bred with it."

Playing Texas on Saturday, for the first time in a regular-season game since 1991, has put an extra beat in this up-tempo coach's step this week. It's a reflection of his Arkansas heritage, although his players don't have the same ingrained emotions about Texas.

Nutt grew up in Little Rock and played for Arkansas under Frank Broyles and Lou Holtz.

When Nutt flashed the upside down Hook 'em Horns sign after beating Texas in the 2000 SBC Cotton Bowl, it wasn't the coach of the University of Arkansas doing it. It was the little boy whose father took him and his brothers to games to root on the Hogs.

Nutt later apologized to Texas coach Mack Brown and says he doesn't blame him for using Nutt's gesture as motivation. Nutt said he probably would, too.

"The thing that he [Brown] doesn't understand, not being from Arkansas, is I grew up [going to Arkansas-Texas games], as early as I can remember," Nutt said. "That was such a big, big rivalry. If you look at the series, Texas has dominated the series. (Texas holds a 54-20 edge)

"But if you looked around the stands, from the age of 4 on, it was always that ..."

Nutt flashes the upside-down Hook 'em sign, but this time without cameras around to record it. He thought he had the same discretion back in January of 2000, when most of the Texas fans had vacated the Cotton Bowl after a 27-6 defeat.

"Our fans still are celebrating, 45,000-plus, and all of them are doing this," giving the Horns-down gesture again. "All I did, in an emotional, joyous time, not as a put-down to a Texas fan or to rub their noses in it, all I did was answer the fans. It wasn't a 30-minute deal, go around the stadium and do it in a fan's face. That's what bothers me about that."

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It doesn't bother Nutt that people are excited about playing Texas again. Thousands of Arkansas fans are expected to watch the game, played in Austin, on the giant video screen at Donald W. Reynolds Stadium.

A visit to Big Red's souvenir shop finds two different anti-Texas T-shirts, each with derogatory slogans, for sale. Inside the Broyles Athletic Center, athletic department staffers are wearing "Beat Texas" buttons.

There's even a display case in the Arkansas football museum titled "Hogs vs. Horns: The Rivalry," and the "The" is underlined.

Featured in the display is a quote from Holtz: "Don't you people ever get emotional about Rice or Baylor or Tech? All I hear is that gosh-darned Texas."

The Texas-Arkansas rivalry has literally been a museum piece since Arkansas left the Southwest Conference to join the Southeastern Conference after the 1991 season.

Arkansas' players were in elementary school the last time the teams were in the same conference. Most of them have grown up without a Texas game to look forward to. Only a few fifth-year seniors were part of the 2000 Cotton Bowl squad that played Texas.

"At the Cotton Bowl, we were being redshirted," senior linebacker Caleb Miller said. "They played so many old Texas-Arkansas highlights that we couldn't help but know the history now, because they played it at every single function we were at. I was like, 'OK guys, it's getting old now.' "

Running back Cedric Cobbs was the offensive MVP of that Cotton Bowl game. If the players didn't know about the rivalry before, Cobbs said the Razorbacks' fans will give them a quick education.

"People would come to me and say, 'Beat Texas. You have no idea how much this means.' " Cobbs said. "It's just been numerous times, especially older people."
Knowing the Texas game can inspire passions and media attention, Nutt has cut off interviews with players after Tuesday, and practices are closed after the first 30 minutes. Normally, practices are open, even to the public, and players are available through Thursday.

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Nutt also knows what beating Texas can do for his program and for his place in Arkansas history. Even the legendary Broyles was just 5-14 against Texas. Holtz was 2-5, and Ken Hatfield, who took Arkansas to six straight bowl games, was 2-4 against the Longhorns.

"Any time you play Texas, no matter when it is on the schedule, it's an awesome opportunity," said Nutt, who is 1-0 against the Longhorns.

Broyles, now Arkansas' athletic director, said he senses a difference in Nutt.

"He's worried," Broyles said. "It's a Texas week."

Broyles recalled being greeted by thousands of fans at the airport after a win over Texas. He knows what beating Texas means to an Arkansas coach.

"It means everything," Broyles said. "When you're able to defeat a team like Texas that has consistently over 80 years been a football power, you gain prestige, you gain something that you will talk about the rest of your life."

As of Monday, Nutt had not talked much about Texas to his players. He did not want his players looking past last week's opponent, Tulsa, whom Arkansas defeated, 45-13.

But Nutt's players have gotten a sense of what playing Texas means to him.

"It's kept within himself because he doesn't want to get too excited," offensive tackle Shawn Andrews said. "But I know deep down inside him, he really wants to win this game. For the team and for the rivalry."
 

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I don'play a lot of Texas or Arkansas but I may play this one. If Texas can run the ball, which they have always seem to done well, I don't see how Arkansas can stay close. Minnesota with a decent, not Texas standard, running game beat up on Arkansas last year on Bowl play. Yeah, Arkansas being a touchdown favorite in that game sort of, "overlooked" the competition in that one. "Overlook" the the competition on the last game of the season? Won't be playing Arkansas.

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Good article, but definitely not reason enough for me to think Ark wins this game SU. UT just has too many offensive weapons for them, don't be deceived by the NM State game. That was Chance's first start and they have had a week to prepare for this. The running game will be more effective and defense should hold their own as usual.
 

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This won't be my top play, but I will definitely have money on Arkansas. I truly believe they can and will win this game. Arkansas has two of the best corners in football. They may not shut Williams and TExas down, but they'll contain them, and that will be the difference.
But I've been a Hog fan all my life, so I'm probably looking through rose-colored glasses.
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I hope you guys keep throwing your money on the Canes so when we get up to about 7 TD's, I can get down on ECU. Yea they suck all right but Miami is not going to shut them out either.

You got to be nuts starting a game down by 6 or 7 TD's. Seriously, I'm laying off of this one even though there are maybe still a couple dozen Div. 1 programs even more pathetic than ECU.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ATX:
take 40 or more points anytime you can in NCAA football. I'm surprised people are not more aware of this.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ATX, Any data to support this? Thanks.
 

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Arkansas can stop the run. It's the pass defense that's the problem. WW really haven't seen enough of Mock to know that he can win a game with his arm, but UT will probablt score 30+. On the other side, UT's run defense is good, but not nearly as good as the pass D. Arkansas should have some success running the ball, and I like this game to go OVER the posted total.
 

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