Well if you give them some artillery, gunships, tanks, attack helicopters, F-16's, nightvision and APC's they could give you a fair fight.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> People who resist occupation are not terrorists. They are resisters.
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Normally, I would agree. In this case I do not agree because they attack too many Iraqi targets. If it was just attacks on coalition troops that would be one thing but when they take over various public buildings and attempt to destroy offshore oil rigs and the like I can only assume their goal is terrorism.
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Normally, I would agree. In this case I do not agree because they attack too many Iraqi targets. If it was just attacks on coalition troops that would be one thing but when they take over various public buildings and attempt to destroy offshore oil rigs and the like I can only assume their goal is terrorism.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
Well if you give them some artillery, gunships, tanks, attack helicopters, F-16's, nightvision and APC's they could give you a fair fight.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No $hit. When you have nothing you use whatever you have at your disposal.
Well if you give them some artillery, gunships, tanks, attack helicopters, F-16's, nightvision and APC's they could give you a fair fight.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No $hit. When you have nothing you use whatever you have at your disposal.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Uncle Moneybags:
Normally, I would agree. In this case I do not agree because they attack too many Iraqi targets. If it was just attacks on coalition troops that would be one thing but when they take over various public buildings and attempt to destroy offshore oil rigs and the like I can only assume their goal is terrorism.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Civil war in Iraq is not only inevitable, but it was predictable. It is the single reason the Bush admin rejected the idea of arming a specific faction to oust Saddam internally.
Attacking oil rigs is in line with attacking the US, IMO, especially if Iraqis see the motivation behind this war as oil.
Normally, I would agree. In this case I do not agree because they attack too many Iraqi targets. If it was just attacks on coalition troops that would be one thing but when they take over various public buildings and attempt to destroy offshore oil rigs and the like I can only assume their goal is terrorism.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Civil war in Iraq is not only inevitable, but it was predictable. It is the single reason the Bush admin rejected the idea of arming a specific faction to oust Saddam internally.
Attacking oil rigs is in line with attacking the US, IMO, especially if Iraqis see the motivation behind this war as oil.
I don't approve of what they are doing. I am merely saying that if you are in control of everything you can squeeze someone financially and in essence rob them blind, build a jail, wait until they throw a rock and then put them in jail for the rest of their lives. Does that make us humane? Many of us saw the movie The Passion. At that time Judea was under Roman control. Do you support the treatment of the inhabitants of the Roman Empire? At that time jews were in the position of the Palestinians and their roles were reversed.Those that fought the Romans are looked upon as heroic freedom fighters and the Palestinians are scumbags because they what they want takes away from what Israel has. Everyone is being manipulated into these religiously based wars and in reality the jews, the christians ,and the muslims are all pawns in this game of control by religion.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
Well if you give them some artillery, gunships, tanks, attack helicopters, F-16's, nightvision and APC's they could give you a fair fight.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you do some research you will see the vast majority of brutality during the Revolutionary War was done by the British. I'm not talking about crimes against civilians; the British treatment of American soldiers (captured soldiers in particulary) was atrocious. Washington and other leaders made every effort to treat British POW's humanely; England's commanders didn't make an effort.
Well if you give them some artillery, gunships, tanks, attack helicopters, F-16's, nightvision and APC's they could give you a fair fight.
Colonialism is a tough business, the days of the spear weilding native are gone, they've all got RPG's now.
In their defence, the terrorists that fought the American war of Independence used ungentlemanly tactics against the Brits as well.
So its an old tactic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you do some research you will see the vast majority of brutality during the Revolutionary War was done by the British. I'm not talking about crimes against civilians; the British treatment of American soldiers (captured soldiers in particulary) was atrocious. Washington and other leaders made every effort to treat British POW's humanely; England's commanders didn't make an effort.
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If they don't want to move forward, that's fine. I hope they're not that stupid as to think that if I happen to pay a few cents more for a gallon of gas that it's somehow a victory for them.
al-Sadr and his butt buddies are trying to grab power and intimidate their opposition. If they enjoy the support that they claim they would have no problem going through the proper channels to obtain that desire. They need a crash course in strategic planning because their decision making abilities have been subpar. The only other option is that this is what they want: chaos and fear aka terrorism.
If they don't want to move forward, that's fine. I hope they're not that stupid as to think that if I happen to pay a few cents more for a gallon of gas that it's somehow a victory for them.
al-Sadr and his butt buddies are trying to grab power and intimidate their opposition. If they enjoy the support that they claim they would have no problem going through the proper channels to obtain that desire. They need a crash course in strategic planning because their decision making abilities have been subpar. The only other option is that this is what they want: chaos and fear aka terrorism.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shotgun:
If you do some research you will see the vast majority of brutality during the Revolutionary War was done by the British. I'm not talking about crimes against civilians; the British treatment of American soldiers (captured soldiers in particulary) was atrocious. Washington and other leaders made every effort to treat British POW's humanely; England's commanders didn't make an effort.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Depends on whose History books you use for your research...
We (The Brits) were the good guys bringing peace, harmony, democracy and civilisation, and your guys did the dastardly things...with a few small references to the 'minor bad things' OUR guys did.
Funny how YOUR history books say that YOUR guys were the good guys, innit?
You only did 'minor bad things' too.
I think its called perspective.
(Methinks that tainting the War of Independence with tales of brutality by American patriots would not be in the script when the history books got written.-Just guessing of course.
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Both sides were probably equally brutal.
...just like in Iraq.
I think its called war.
and the first casualty of war, is the truth.
[This message was edited by eek on April 29, 2004 at 09:59 AM.]
If you do some research you will see the vast majority of brutality during the Revolutionary War was done by the British. I'm not talking about crimes against civilians; the British treatment of American soldiers (captured soldiers in particulary) was atrocious. Washington and other leaders made every effort to treat British POW's humanely; England's commanders didn't make an effort.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Depends on whose History books you use for your research...
We (The Brits) were the good guys bringing peace, harmony, democracy and civilisation, and your guys did the dastardly things...with a few small references to the 'minor bad things' OUR guys did.
Funny how YOUR history books say that YOUR guys were the good guys, innit?
You only did 'minor bad things' too.
I think its called perspective.
(Methinks that tainting the War of Independence with tales of brutality by American patriots would not be in the script when the history books got written.-Just guessing of course.
Both sides were probably equally brutal.
...just like in Iraq.
I think its called war.
and the first casualty of war, is the truth.
[This message was edited by eek on April 29, 2004 at 09:59 AM.]
Yeah , so the ahabs are using women and kids as sheilds.That is great.This has been going on for years.But it is ok, keep using the kids and kunts as the we say, as long as you kill arab kunts and their kids, you are killing the future terrorists and the mamas can't make any more baby terrorists.
Now if we can get the american army and allies to shoot and kill all the arab mamas and kids, then we can start to enjoy life and peace again.The smart ones---the Palestianians have taught their ahab cousins to blow themselves up.
Maybe one day the United States can get all the ahab oil from them and put all the arabs in it to swim to their death.
Let the blood and dead pile up.This is getting old.It is really time for the bullies--USA to just kill ALL arab people in Iraq and move into the lying bastards country of Syria and start to pick them off 10 by 10.
Aren't arab people nice people? Don't you want to be friends with arabs in this country or in the world?
Save the world, keep killing thew kunts and kids until we the world are safe again!
Now if we can get the american army and allies to shoot and kill all the arab mamas and kids, then we can start to enjoy life and peace again.The smart ones---the Palestianians have taught their ahab cousins to blow themselves up.
Maybe one day the United States can get all the ahab oil from them and put all the arabs in it to swim to their death.
Let the blood and dead pile up.This is getting old.It is really time for the bullies--USA to just kill ALL arab people in Iraq and move into the lying bastards country of Syria and start to pick them off 10 by 10.
Aren't arab people nice people? Don't you want to be friends with arabs in this country or in the world?
Save the world, keep killing thew kunts and kids until we the world are safe again!
What a wonderful thread this is, really nice. Here we have a number of left wingers EXCUSING and DEFENDING the practice of using innocent women and children as human shields. Whether you are for or against the war, for you f*cking scumbags to excuse and defend this practice is incredible. This shows the true nature of your anti-war sentiment. You people are even worse than I thought.
Here we have a number of left wingers EXCUSING and DEFENDING the practice of using innocent women and children as human shields.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice"
Barry Goldwater, 1964 Republican convention
I'd probably do the same thing if some foreigners were trying to "liberate" my country and my people, and committing genocide in the process
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice"
Barry Goldwater, 1964 Republican convention
I'd probably do the same thing if some foreigners were trying to "liberate" my country and my people, and committing genocide in the process
In war, both sides are trying to kill the other so it is silly to talk about ethics here. Borat is absolutely correct in his first post. The Iraqis are smart. They know America's weakness -- that they are a bunch of softies with a majority leftist population. The Iraqis' greatest allies are the over-sensitive, bleeding-hearted liberals living in the country of the attacker and they are invoking their help brilliantly. Oh my God, look at those poor babies, we can't hurt those! Nasty nasty GW Bush don't you dare! You just got 150 million new soldiers in one go -- and pretty loudmouthed at that! If that's not a brilliant warfare tactic (from a benefit to resources required standpoint) then I don't know what is.
Captain #5 is absolutely right in that you have to treat the women and children the same as men because they will have children who will want revenge and the cycle never stops. Lucky for the Iraqis, though, his kind is a small and shrinking minority.
Captain #5 is absolutely right in that you have to treat the women and children the same as men because they will have children who will want revenge and the cycle never stops. Lucky for the Iraqis, though, his kind is a small and shrinking minority.
EverFresh,
Yes, and Goldwater was wrong.
You people are revolting. So you're telling me that if your country was invaded by a foreign power, and you were engaged in a gun battle, you would pick up your neighbor's 9-year old daughter and hold her in front of you so she could take the bullet meant for you???
If you can answer that question in the affirmative, you should be taken out and have your throat slit and bled out like a hog.
Yes, and Goldwater was wrong.
You people are revolting. So you're telling me that if your country was invaded by a foreign power, and you were engaged in a gun battle, you would pick up your neighbor's 9-year old daughter and hold her in front of you so she could take the bullet meant for you???
If you can answer that question in the affirmative, you should be taken out and have your throat slit and bled out like a hog.
one day Bush and his followers (like patriot, floyd and outandup) will understand that this war will be won by the side who is willing to make more sacrifices. and people who are defending their country, and their homes will always make one sacrifice more than the other side. and when bush understands it, it will be too late for many young american and iraqi lives.
alex the great...
it is not about "being equiped" to fight the guerilla war. no one is equiped for that. it takes no equipment to fight a guerilla war. it takes hart, determination and will. something the us solders who have no clue why they are there do not have, and people defending their homes have.
it is not about "being equiped" to fight the guerilla war. no one is equiped for that. it takes no equipment to fight a guerilla war. it takes hart, determination and will. something the us solders who have no clue why they are there do not have, and people defending their homes have.
