Tell Me Again How It Isn't FIXED

[ScottL]

11/05/16 04:32:52pm	218½
11/05/16 04:32:39pm	218½ Over -106 Under -114
11/05/16 04:19:51pm	218½
11/05/16 03:46:41pm	218
11/05/16 03:45:18pm	217½
11/05/16 03:18:39pm	217
11/05/16 03:18:16pm	215 Over -121 Under +100
11/05/16 06:00:02am	215 Over -108 Under -113
11/05/16 06:00:02am	215

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Houston at Atlanta

Final	1	2	3	4	T
HOU	30	29	25	13	97
ATL	30	35	28	19	112

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Boxscore | Play-by-Play

 

[Baronman]

I had the over Also

 

[KingEleven]

so you have odds makers, executives, referees, players, and more all in on fixing games?

hno:

 

[ScottL]

I didn't have OVER. I hit the 215 and 218.5 after the move, equal amounts. Did the same thing with the steam hit on OVER 207 and UNDER 210 in cle-phi. Both UNDERS were FIXED.

I feel bad for anybody who caps NBA as if it's legit. You gotta get killed every year.

 

[Scott602]

so you have odds makers, executives, referees, players, and more all in on fixing games?

hno:

110% it's totally rigged. All about the money.

 

[KingEleven]

110% it's totally rigged. All about the money.

hard.for.hundreds.or.thousands.of.people.to.keep.a.secret

 

[ScottL]

Milw Fixes in Dallas blowing 4Q lead for 3rd year in a row. NBA Home Favorites are now 7-0 ATS in Overtime (purely coincidental I'm sure)

 

[nahlij]

So youre saying alot of people put money on the under thats why the line dropped that much? And they gave the over backers false home up until the 4th qrt....?

 

[BigTonyC]

If these games are fixed why do you keep betting???

 

[Heatwave]

This happens all of the time in the NBA. The 4th quarter is played much differently in many cases than the first three. It happens in college basketball as well in the second half.

Home favorites being 7-0 ATS in overtime is coincidental - over time, this will be 50/50. 7 games is not a large sample size. Plus, I believe that 3 of the 7 involved the Phoenix Suns...maybe something there as well.

The NBA is an absolute animal to tame IMO.

HW

 

[PBMULE]

Hello!!

This happens all of the time in the NBA. The 4th quarter is played much differently in many cases than the first three. It happens in college basketball as well in the second half.

Home favorites being 7-0 ATS in overtime is coincidental - over time, this will be 50/50. 7 games is not a large sample size. Plus, I believe that 3 of the 7 involved the Phoenix Suns...maybe something there as well.

The NBA is an absolute animal to tame IMO.

HW

Plus!! If the game was fixed it would not be all favorites.. Joe public typically bet favs so Vegas is not coming out on the positive side of these.. Dumb Dumb Dumb

 

[Biz]

Maybe betting on "steam" isn't the smartest thing in the world. You think the "steam" is always the "smart" people??

Or is it the general public, people like you, that see a line move so you blindly follow.

Its not fixed. I have a buddy, a losing player, that says this all the time. Every sport. Its idiotic.

Who fixes these games? The refs? Thats the easy one. They cause players to miss shots?

The players? Coaches are ordering players to miss shots or foul or play poor defense? How many players need to be in on it to actually affect the score? How much do they get paid? Do you know how much money needs to be wagered to pay off all those involved, and leave enough for the guys doing the betting??

You have guys making millions of dollars, but they're going to risk it all on fixing a game for how much? Really??

A sample size of 7. That is your evidence. Brilliant.





If you've followed the NBA for any period of time,

 

[alyn]

Idk if its fixed when it comes to over/under but there is no doubt the game is controlled and often decided by the refs

 

[varkeyboy]

If these games are fixed why do you keep betting???

LOL exactly....


If you follow the NBA, you'll see a lot of low scoring in the 4Q. It happens a ton.

 

[ScottL]

Orlando at Chicago

Final	1	2	3	4	T
ORL	24	28	11	14	77
CHI	37	24	27	24	112

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Steam drove this from 198 to 201.....

Games aren't fixed beforehand. They are rigged AFTER the SU Winner is no longer in doubt. Most spreads are between 6-9 points. If the favorite leads in a game like that by 7-10 with less than .30 to go they can then manipulate the outcome in most cases if one side has heavier amounts wagered than the other. Same with Totals.

Disagree all you want guys. Been around long enough to know better. You will never beat the NBA by capping it as if it were legit. And by the way I don't follow steam. I do shoot for middles sometimes though. And 4Qs should only slow down if the game is tight. Not if it's a blowout.

I saw my first confirmed FIX on TNT when the mic picked up Laker's Nick Van Exel telling a Portland player, "GLASS" before heaving his second of 2 free throws off the top of the backboard. Portland rebounded and fast breaked for a layup. It was the final basket of the game, a 6 point win for the Lakers (-8) who entered the 4Q leading by 20.

 

[DrHoops]

Ok so I know a certain NBA player that gives info to his friend who is a big gambler. This NBA player isn't the highest paid player and doesn't have any endorsements as he is the 6th man coming off the bench for this team. He does play a significant amount of time each game and I personally believe he misses free throws and doesn't grab rebounds in an effort to make sure his team doesn't cover the spread. Does Vegas know? No of course not. So when the gambler makes 100k off of a NBA bet, I believe he kicks back money to the NBA player. So yes I believed the games are fixed. The part about him missing free throws is speculation, but it is fact that he gives out picks to his friend I've seen the texts.

 

[ScottL]

Philadelphia at Houston

4th end	1	2	3	4	T
PHI	26	26	16	20	88
HOU	38	27	28	22	115

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Nothing but OVER money, including a 2 point hit late. "Normal" 4Q pace puts it OVER easy. Instead the FIXERS [ut the brakes on:

11/14/16 04:19:22pm	216
11/14/16 04:19:21pm	216 Over -121 Under +100
11/14/16 04:19:16pm	214½ Over -121 Under +100
11/14/16 04:18:58pm	214½
11/14/16 04:18:56pm	214½ Over -117 Under -103
11/14/16 04:18:49pm	213½ Over -117 Under -103
11/14/16 04:06:58pm	213½ Over -113 Under -108
11/14/16 04:06:58pm	213½
11/14/16 04:06:51pm	213 Over -113 Under -108
11/14/16 02:31:28pm	213
11/14/16 02:31:19pm	213 Over -112 Under -108
11/14/16 02:29:31pm	213
11/14/16 01:50:40pm	213½
11/14/16 01:50:39pm	213½ Over +100 Under -121
11/14/16 01:50:19pm	214 Over +100 Under -121
11/14/16 12:52:59pm	214
11/14/16 12:03:17pm	213½
11/14/16 11:59:58am	213
11/14/16 11:59:24am	213 Over -111 Under -109
11/14/16 11:22:03am	213
11/14/16 11:22:02am	213 Over -120 Under -101
11/14/16 11:21:41am	212½ Over -120 Under -101
11/14/16 11:16:28am	212½
11/14/16 11:16:27am	212½ Over -127 Under +105
11/14/16 11:16:16am	212 Over -127 Under +105
11/14/16 11:16:01am	212

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[In2ition]

Ok so I know a certain NBA player that gives info to his friend who is a big gambler. This NBA player isn't the highest paid player and doesn't have any endorsements as he is the 6th man coming off the bench for this team. He does play a significant amount of time each game and I personally believe he misses free throws and doesn't grab rebounds in an effort to make sure his team doesn't cover the spread. Does Vegas know? No of course not. So when the gambler makes 100k off of a NBA bet, I believe he kicks back money to the NBA player. So yes I believed the games are fixed. The part about him missing free throws is speculation, but it is fact that he gives out picks to his friend I've seen the texts.

Can u please let me know when and who to bet on as soon as the next text comes in?

 

[In2ition]

Orlando at Chicago

Final	1	2	3	4	T
ORL	24	28	11	14	77
CHI	37	24	27	24	112

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Steam drove this from 198 to 201.....

Games aren't fixed beforehand. They are rigged AFTER the SU Winner is no longer in doubt. Most spreads are between 6-9 points. If the favorite leads in a game like that by 7-10 with less than .30 to go they can then manipulate the outcome in most cases if one side has heavier amounts wagered than the other. Same with Totals.

Disagree all you want guys. Been around long enough to know better. You will never beat the NBA by capping it as if it were legit. And by the way I don't follow steam. I do shoot for middles sometimes though. And 4Qs should only slow down if the game is tight. Not if it's a blowout.

I saw my first confirmed FIX on TNT when the mic picked up Laker's Nick Van Exel telling a Portland player, "GLASS" before heaving his second of 2 free throws off the top of the backboard. Portland rebounded and fast breaked for a layup. It was the final basket of the game, a 6 point win for the Lakers (-8) who entered the 4Q leading by 20.

Then how should someone cap a game?

 

[PeePee]

Don't know if examples above are fixed or not but it's normal for teams to slow the pace once up double digits in 4th, nothing new about that.
I personally believe in "rare occasion" fixes in both NBA and NFL as a poster above mentioned. But not every game is otherwise it would be whistleblower every where.