Surprise US backs checkpoint soldiers. Even though people there say differently

[grantt]

'You didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!'

A journalist's account of the killing of a car full of Iraqi civilians by US soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says Brian Whitaker

Tuesday April 1, 2003

The invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the US 3rd infantry division shot dead Iraqi seven women and children.
The incident occurred on Route 9, near Najaf, when a car carrying 13 women and children approached a checkpoint.

A US military spokesman says the soldiers motioned the vehicle to stop but their signals were ignored. However, according to the Washington Post, Captain Ronny Johnson, who was in charge of the checkpoint, blamed his own troops for ignoring orders to fire a warning shot.

"You just ****ing killed a family because you didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!", he reportedly yelled at them.

In another checkpoint incident this morning, US forces say they killed an unarmed Iraqi driver outside Shatra.

 

What a jackazz. The signs say stop, the soldiers signal to stop and they continue to barrel towards the troops, that seems strange. You leftest act as though they should sit back and get blown away.

 

[ShamelessSchill]

Outandup,

um... they were UNARMED women and children. I'll bet you would feel differently if were your mother wife and children coming home from church! The soldiers did not fire a warning shot in sufficient time. You DID read this, right?

 

>they were UNARMED women and children.

When was that known?

>I'll bet you would feel ifferently

If your son was standing guard at the check-point.

 

SS,
It was a van. A van can hold alot of explosives. A women can drive van into US soldiers and blow the soldiers and children into pieces. Unless the driver stops the vehicle the soldiers have no idea of their intentions. Get it.

 

[buddyboy]

Private First Class Dumbass Held Accountable for US Deaths

Iraq- More than 22 US Servicemen are in the hospital and 8 are confirmed dead after PFC Dumbass failed to stop a van loaded with high explosives at an Army check point. "We give these kids loaded weapons and tell them to stop all traffic coming into area," reports Major Hardass, "why he didn't stop them? I just don't know."

PFC Dumbass was very defensive when answering reporters questions, "hey would you shoot at a speeding van headed for a US ARMY roadblock? I mean I put up signs that said stop, I fired warning shots, when they didn't stop I thought it was a van load of kids and women that were in a hurry to get home for dinner."

The government is concerned that some of the troops do not fully understand that they are working in a war zone. "We are informing all battlion level commanders to remind their troops that they are fighting a war, hopefully this will address the checkpoint issue and we will be able to avoid these types of situations in the future."

 

[Gargoyle]

Buddy boy,

Funny stuff. Irony is that they were all going to the movies to see Saving Private Ryan.

 

[PatPatriot]

Theres also have been innocent woman and children in iragy personal carriers..see the difference?? if you fxckin leftys had a clue you would take in consideration what every court does everywhere....INTENT!!
We have no intent of hurting innocense, they do!

 

Buddyboy,
LMFAO.

 

[KennyB]

Grantt, you are the poster child for a pussy.

Why aren't you blaming Sadam/the Muslims/Palestineans for creating an environment where there is no distinction between the military and civilians???

After the first sandy blew up our soldiers with a homicide bomb on Saturday the rule is set. You stop at a roadblock or you are obliterated. Our troops have no way of knowing that a car either has woman and children, soldiers or bombs.

Don't blame the US.

 

[KMAN]

Well put KennyB!

KMAN

 

[radiofreecostarica]

Will this incident they have just inducted/induced about 100 more terrorists to act...

so much for the War on Terror, better known now as the War for Terror.

 

Eat shit you lying lefties.

This just out! Saddams goons force the driver of the van to run thru the check point by threatening to kill family. Sure as hell was strange. See newsmax.

 

[Phaedrus]

Come ON people. I am as opposed to this war as anyone, and don't even soften it up by saying I "support the troops." But let's have a basic reality check here:

Military checkpoint, guys with M-16s, grenades, and a helicopter assault team a radio call away,

vs.

Van, probably an old shitty one without a CD player, let alone a few AKM's or whatever is standard issue in Iraq.

You don't stop, don't show signs of stopping, don't respond to obvious attempts to make you stop, no sense crying about getting shot. Just war or not, when it comes down to P2P relations the guy with the M-16 is generally going to win the argument.

Challenge a guy with an M-16 with a van: get shot. Stop the car, show your papers, make some small talk, and move on with your day, or challenge the guy with the M-16 and GET THE F*CK SHOT. This is not a complicated situation, far less complicated than the larger issue of the war being fought.

Low vig value play of the day:

stop=live


Phaedrus

 

[buddyboy]

About a year ago the cops shot up a car that was trying to pull out of a driveway.

the cops had the driveway blocked.

The guy rammed the cop cars to get out.

The people standing around watching the cops pump lead into the car were screaming, "he's got his kid in the car!!!!"

Anyway, they said the car was a deadly weapon, that threatened the life of the cop so they could use deadly force.

The driver was shot in the leg, the kid was unharmed. The cop had to buy 6 more bullets to replace the ones he expended.

 

And your point is......

Don't tell me you think the US soldiers should have shot the driver of the van in the leg.

 

[buddyboy]

out,

the point is the car in this case was a deadly weapon.

it could be said the speeding van at the checkpoint was a deadly weapon. whether it was full of explosives or kids does not matter.

 

Buddy,
OK, Very true.