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Gallup: President Obama Has Upper Hand in Stimulus Debate

February 09, 2009 8:48 AM
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--> New numbers out from Gallup this morning indicate that -- even if a plurality of Americans want a trimmed-down stimulus package and many Americans want many changes to the bill -- the President has the upper hand in the debate.
Sixty-seven percent of the American people approve of how President Obama's handling his efforts to pass an economic stimulus bill, as opposed to 48% for Democrats in Congress and 31% for congressional Republicans.
Congressional Republicans actually have a staggeringly high 58% DISapproval rating for how they're handling the stimulus debate, compared to 42% for Hill Democrats and only 25% for President Obama.
Gallup says that 51% of those polled believe that passing the economic stimulus plan is "critically important" for the economy, with 29% saying it's important. Only 16% say it is "not that important."
These are the numbers President Obama has as the debate begins again in earnest this morning, with his trip to Elkhart, Indiana.(http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/gallup-presiden.html)


Other things of note in the recent poll: over 50% of Americans have greater confidence in President Obama's ability to improve the economy and his ability to manage the federal government then they did before he was elected.
 

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This package is going to do wonders. I just know it. I have all the faith in the world in Obama's plan.

Improved infrastructure and more importantly the incresaed amount of disposable cash amoung Americans is only going to help improve the economy on many levels.

Some people are just too short sighted and pessimistic to see the light.
 

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If support were so high he wouldn't have to be doing townhalls trying to sell it. That's common sense.
 

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Your numbers are old (and Rasmussen doesn't hold much weight in partisan polling, but I'm sure you knew that).

No...I don't know that.

Biased replies such as yours without evidence do not hold much weight.

But I'm sure you knew that.
 

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This package is going to do wonders. I just know it. I have all the faith in the world in Obama's plan.

Improved infrastructure and more importantly the incresaed amount of disposable cash amoung Americans is only going to help improve the economy on many levels.

Some people are just too short sighted and pessimistic to see the light.
[SIZE=+1]Biden: Obama Says High Probability His Administration Will Fail[/SIZE]
<SMALL>Friday, February 6, 2009 | Kristinn </SMALL>

<SMALL>Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 11:07:13 AM by kristinn</SMALL>

Vice President Joe Biden spoke to the House Democrats retreat in Williamsburg this morning, warning that President Barack Obama believes there is a high chance their administration could fail.
In off-the-cuff remarks reported by The Hill, Biden described a meeting he had with the President last week:
Recounting a conversation he had with Obama in the Oval Office earlier in the week regarding the economic stimulus bill and other matters, Biden said the two came to the realization that: “If we do everything right… there’s still a 30 percent chance we’re going to get it wrong.”
Biden described the situation facing the administration in the most dire terms:
“There has never been the constellation of crises we face right now. And we have no historical precedent to look back on, other than our grit. Our determination.” Obama has threatened the end of Western civilization as we know it (in so many words) if the stimulus bill is not passed. With Biden's remarks that he and Obama have strong doubts their plan will succeed, it is time to step back and re-think the stimulus bill.
 
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Three liberal Republican senators — Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, and Pennsylvania's Sen. Arlen Specter — who pledged their support this weekend to President Barack Obama’s massive stimulus bill are drawing the wrath of many conservatives.
As news filtered through the media that a "deal" had been cut with the defecting GOP Senators — giving Democrats the 60-plus votes they need to overcome a Republican filibuster — Republican officials and pundits expressed outrage.
The bolting senators cited soaring unemployment numbers, the country's worsening recession and the fact they cut about $100 billion off of the Senate Democrats' proposed plan as key factors for their decision to betray the GOP Senate caucus to join with the Democrats.
But critics note that the Democratic "compromise" plan comes in at $827 billion — $8 billion more in spending than the already bloated House bill that called for $819 billion in new spending. They also note the so-called stimulus bill offers little immediate relief to the economy. According to a Congressional Budget Office report issued last week, only a fraction of the stimulus will be spent in 2009.
Though weekends are noted for slow news cycles, Collins, Snowe, and Specter already are finding they are under hostile fire, lambasted on conservative Web sites throughout the weekend and the subjects of angry calls by many of their constituents, according to reports.
“Arlen Specter is DONE,” wrote a blogger named steelfish on the FreeRepublic Web site. “He won his last primary by less than 1 percent against a real conservative of Pat Toomey. And only because the President Bush came to PA and campaigned for him. He is DONE.”
Specter is up for re-election in 2010. Washington Republican strategists tell Newsmax this weekend that Specter's defection has sealed the deal: he will face a primary for the GOP nomination.
"We don't care if we lose the Pennsylvania Senate seat to the Democrats," one Washington strategist told Newsmax. "Better to remove Fifth columnists from the party."
The sentiment was echoed in chat rooms and blogs across the web.
“They are frauds. RINOS" Republicans in Name Only, wrote a blogger named Croupier101 on the Fox News blog site.
On TV news shows Sunday, their Republican colleagues distanced themselves from the defecting troika -- arguing that the small GOP support for the plan did not suggest Congressional Democrats or the White House sought a bipartisan stimulus.
"This agreement is not bipartisan," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS' "Face the Nation."
"I've been in bipartisan agreements, many. This is three Republican senators. Every Republican congressman voted against it in the House, plus Democrats. And all but three Republicans stayed together on this. That's not bipartisanship. That's just picking off a couple of senators," McCain said.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said the trio’s support must have been disappointing to Obama, who has staked much on his ostensible ability to transcend the partisan divide.
"Having three Republicans, potentially, support it in the Senate out of 535 members of Congress is hardly a bipartisan effort. I think it's a disappointment — surely must be for President Obama," Cornyn told "FOX News Sunday." He added he fully expects the bill to pass "with almost exclusively Democratic support."
The three were the target of a furious national campaign by liberal groups, who besieged their offices with phone calls and emails urging them to support the stimulus plan. Without Democrats controlling a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate, the trio's support was essential in advancing the contentious plan to a final vote next week.
Their help more than likely will result in pushing the stimulus over the finish line.
In a video posted on YouTube, Republican Rep. Ron Paul said the three “caved in and went with the Democrats.”
The former presidential candidate, who has a sizable libertarian following on the Internet, especially among college students, praised his fellow House Republicans for unanimously opposing the stimulus. But he lamented that after eight years of the massive spending done under the Bush administration, Republican opposition was too little, too late.
"It is like they're born-again budget conservatives," Paul said. "Where were we in the past eight years, when we could have done something? And you see our last eight years that has set this situation up. So we can't blame the Democrats for the conditions we have.
"We have to blame both parties and presidents of the last several decades to have generated this huge government."
The stimulus package, which is expected to come in at about $827 billion when the Senate votes, includes tax cuts and credits and spending on infrastructure, education and other projects that supporters say will create and save jobs.
But critics contend the stimulus is nothing more than a laundry list of political payback to groups that supported the Democrats in the last election. They note that less than 5 percent of the spending goes to infrastructure projects.
Collins said she broke ranks with her party because of the progress congressional negotiators had made on the bill.
"Well, I know that some of my Republican colleagues are unhappy with the position that I've taken," Collins told reporters Saturday. "I hope they will look at the fact that we were able to cut $110 billion of unnecessary spending from this bill. I think that's a good accomplishment. I also think that it's important that we do pass a stimulus bill to help turn the economy around."
But Snowe and Specter have kept a low profile since the deal was struck. Despite their huge role, none made the rounds of the Sunday talk shows. Specter said Friday night that the agreement wasn't perfect but it was necessary.
That assertion was greeted with wild derision on the Internet and with veiled scorn by other Republican leaders.
Julie Ann O'Brien, executive director of the Maine Republican Party, said she already has received plenty of e-mails from people across the country, the majority scolding the two Senators for their support of the bill.
"We have heard from both sides," she told FOXNews.com. "We've heard from those who are pleased that Sen. Collins, in particular, has been willing to play and negotiate. And there are others who feel strongly that they are not acting like Republicans are supposed to act."
O'Brien doesn't anticipate any local political fallout for Snowe or Collins, noting that both won't face re-election for several years and that voters are familiar with them.
"People know what they're getting when they vote for them," she said. "They lean conservative on most issues — that's why they're Republicans. But they really do, I feel, do what is right — not politically right but morally right."
On Sunday, a liberal, union-supported issue advocacy group initially founded in 2005 to rally against President Bush’s Social Security reform plan was praising the three in ads in Maine and Pennsylvania.
"Senators Snowe and Collins have worked with President Obama and other senators to reach agreement on a plan that has support from a broad range of groups, including the US Chamber of Commerce and organized labor," says the version of the ad in Maine.
"Call Senators Snowe and Collins today at 202-224-3121. Thank them for their leadership and tell them to keep fighting for a plan to get our economy moving again."
But Collins, at least, has left herself some wiggle room on the final bill that emerges after House-Senate negotiations.
"Well, I know that some of my Republican colleagues are unhappy with the position that I've taken," Collins told FOX News. "I hope they will look at the fact that we were able to cut $110 billion of unnecessary spending from this bill. I think that's a good accomplishment.”
Yet she conceded that if a bill comes back from the conference committee with the House "once again bloated with wasteful spending and it's too expensive, then I'll vote against it."
















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This package is going to do wonders. I just know it. I have all the faith in the world in Obama's plan.

Improved infrastructure and more importantly the incresaed amount of disposable cash amoung Americans is only going to help improve the economy on many levels.

Some people are just too short sighted and pessimistic to see the light.

Here is "the light" for you, that increased amount of "disposable cash" is being borrowed. You get a check now and someone's grandkid has to pay it back in quadruple? Do you feel that is a decent thing to do to our future Americans? Start them off a few trillion in the hole and see if they can make it UP to even before they die? That's the plan you have faith in? The one Biden has only 70% faith in?

Future Americans don't deserve the ass raping they are going to be getting just because today's Americans are irresponsible, broke, and demanding free handouts.
 

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This package is going to do wonders. I just know it. I have all the faith in the world in Obama's plan.

Improved infrastructure and more importantly the incresaed amount of disposable cash amoung Americans is only going to help improve the economy on many levels.

Some people are just too short sighted and pessimistic to see the light.


Faith in Obama? I guess that's what it takes.

Short sighted and pessimistic? now that's a funny take, considering I think everything will be fine without an earmark whore passing an earmark whore's budget without even wanting to discuss it.

The man spewing fear is your messiah, comprehension 101.
 

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Short-sighted is creating "work" or finite projects and calling them jobs. I believe there is a difference. What happens when the disc golf course or "green" clubhouse are complete? Do you continue employing these people on the government payroll? To do what? How many people does it take to m aintain these type of places?

Keep in mind that the best estimates of the democrats pushing the bill is 3 million "jobs" created. If the bill is 750,000,000,000 and you do the math of 3,000,000 people put to work. That means for each job the government creates, it will cost the taxpayer $250,000 for each single job.

Anyone who defends this package, please explain how it is efficient to pay $250,000 in taxpayer's money to create one temporary (in some cases) job. ^^:)
 

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Thread should have been entitled this:

If you Support Stimulus you are High

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This package is going to do wonders. I just know it. I have all the faith in the world in Obama's plan.

Improved infrastructure and more importantly the incresaed amount of disposable cash amoung Americans is only going to help improve the economy on many levels.

Some people are just too short sighted and pessimistic to see the light.

Funk still drinking the kool-aid.

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The more neocons chattering about the doom ahead the more I think that this could be the way.
 

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economists who like tiz think a depression is coming

think stimulus is needed but this particular package is garbage

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"Terrible Year Baked In:" Govt. Stimulus Needed, But Not This Bill, Wolf Says
Posted Feb 09, 2009 02:43pm EST by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers, Recession, Banking
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Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator for The Financial Times, is a believer in the power of government spending to revive the economy, especially now when the private sector is in major retreat.

But believing in fiscal stimulus is much different than supporting the bill currently being discussed in Congress, which Wolf believes is "too small, too wasteful and too ill-focused."

Similarly, Wolf is discouraged by the expected path of the next bank bailout plan; that's critical because "there's no sustainable recovery without a sound financial system" whether the stimulus package is well designed or not, he says.

As detailed in part one of our interview, the commentator, author and economics professor has a fairly dire view of the state of the global economy. Given that, he says the risk of going forward with such bad polices are profound, including:

* A continuation of a deep recession (if not worse)
* More debt defaults by corporations and sovereign nations worldwide.
* "Horrendous" unemployment in the U.S.
* Ultimate loss of confidence in policymakers, leading to "panic" in financial markets.

Still, Wolf did write a book entitled Fixing Global Finance and he offers "six principles" for stemming the current downturn in which he notes the one silver lining to the economic mess we find ourselves in, as detailed toward the end of the accompanying video.
 

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Fletch, that is two great pictures about 5 minutes apart. the other picture (given the context) is hilarious
 

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Wall Street journal is reporting that calls, letters, emails and faxes are a 100-1 ratio AGAINST the earmarkulus bill.
 

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