Summer Homework: Capping the NFC Quarterbacks

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I am ranking them by division, I like trying to predict the divisions then look at the playoff picture, then going on to who will cash in those NFL futures...

I do believe the NFL is a QB league and that the teams with the best QB's have a huge advantage. Just look at the QB's who make the playoffs and those who don't over the last 2 or so years... Brady, Manning, Manning, Favre, Rivers, Romo, Mcnabb, Big Ben etc. etc. etc. You don't see the Tavaras Jackson, Jermarcus Russell, Jason Campbells of the world in the playoffs.

I give a * to guys I believe in and an F for a fade.

NFC East
1. Mcnabb *
2. Romo *
3. Eli *
4. Jason Campbell F

I think the top 3 really aren't THAT different, Romo MIGHT surpass Mcnabb this year but I have to favor the Vet that has been there before and done it for years. I like all of the top 3, I believe in them, and I do think Eli is underrated.

Jason Campbell on the other hand is what is holding his team back, he throws with a slow release, thinks slow, and isn't a natural leader. The Redskins run the 2 min drill like a joke, and it's funny to see Baby campbell walk back to the sidelines to see Papa Zorn try and coach him up and tell him to get rid of the ball faster after every snap. Daniel M. Snyder looked at replaceing the big dumb ass this offseason and the Jason Campbell show might not last much longer until he's another Byron Leftwhich/Charlie Batch/Dante Culpeper type guy that was supposed to be " the franchise QB for said team" but then plays out his career as a journey man/backup/spot starter. The funny thing is how the media trys to front run this clown but people aren't buying the hype anymore.

NFC Central
1. Rodgers ( could earn a * this year)
2. Cutler
3. Lions QB F
4. Terrible Tavaras Jackson F

I list Rodgers as #1 with his fat 28 TD-13 INT in his first season and in a very pressure filled role. He had to do the encore for Brett Favre and if the Packers had a better record he might get the same praise Matt Ryan got last year. I do think Cutler has had a better career and is a better player thus far but he does have to adjust to a brand new offense and will play in the cold windy Chicago. I don't think he will post the same numbers this year in that new offense and think Rodgers will have a better year as I expect him to continue to mature. It wouldn't shock me if Cutler plays BAD, but I certainly think he will underperform expectations this year and especially early on... I mean come on, the Bears are at 6/1 to win the super bowl, that's a joke! Cutler in Denver probably gets a *, but now he has to re-prove himself with his new surroundings. I think Aaron Rodgers is one of the best young QB's in the league and I expect him to continue to mature.

Tavaras Jackson sucks and will get his coach fired. I'm not going to mention BF at this point, but I'd put him right up there at 1A with Rodgers if he does come back.

Lions QB, who knows what the heck they are going to do but Stafford might get the most "starts" this year. In most divisions he'd probably get dead last, but when you have a 5th round running QB who was picked in the 2nd round and going to get his bald " don't let your dog shit on my lawn" coach, then you don't finish dead last. I'll believe in Matt Stafford when I see it, until then, he'll have to prove it to me.

NFC South
1. Drew Brees **
2. Jake the snake
3. Matt Ryan
4. Josh Freeman F ( will he be the starter)

1. Drew Brees gets two *'s because he's the best QB in the NFC. If there was no such thing as Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he'd clearly be the best QB in the NFL. The scary thing is that Brees doesn't even have THAT much talent around him, he's had so many injuries, I'd love to see what he could do with a stacked roster around him. Ragina Bush lining up 7 yards deep and taking carries isn't ideal.

2. Jake can be a good QB but then he could pull a Jake Plummer and make the dumbest thows you wouldn't believe. It must be something about that part of the country down there where you have to be a gun slinger. With that being said, I am still not a beliver in Mat Ryan, it looked like they coddled him some, and Matt Ryan could certainly pass him this year, but you have to do it again to win my respect.

3. Matt Ryan: Nice rookie season, do it again.

4. Josh Freeman: If that smiling shit grinning rookie coach who is in way over his head starts Josh Freeman, he will have the worst starting QB in the NFL and he will instantly build a chorus of doubters.

NFC West
1. Kurt Warner *
2. Matt Hasselback ( lost a star)
3. Marc Bulger
4. Shaun Hill F

Warner: The funny thing to me is how quickly people are to write off a Brett Favre or Kurt Warner because they are "old", but after they are old and have good seasons then people talk about them like top 5 QB's again. Yes, Warner should be the best QB in the West again, but if his line doesn't give him enough time, look for the fumbles. Kurt Warner is the ultimate "over" quarterback. If he gets time, then he's throwing TD passes, if he doesn't it is turnover city. I like him, I think he's smart, I think he's a good guy, I like his coach, I don't like that he has a new OC, I think the offensive line should get better, but I don't think the Cards are going back to the SB next year. I was on the Arizona bandwagon for a couple of years and it finally hit.

Hassellback: Hassellback and Bulger are two guys that have had good careers thus far but all you ever hear about is how they are "old" now. Well, if Hassellback comes back and throws 24 TD's and 11 INT's next year you won't hear about that anymore, you will hear about how he's a top 10 QB. If the guy's healthy, I'd back him.

Bulger: I amso quick to dismiss Bulger yet either. I know how well he can do with Mike Martz, he was in a touch situation last year, and I'd rather bet on a guy who could prove he can do a lot of right things, than some young guy who has proven nothing. I'd say a lot of it is the situation, but with that being said I'd still have to peg Bulger behind Hasselback and Warner.

Shaun Hill: I'm not a believer.
 
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NFC Stars ( Huge advantage for these teams)
Mcnabb
Romo
Eli
Drew Brees **
Kurt Warner

NFC Fades
Jason Campbell
Lions QB
Terrible Tavaris Jackson
Josh Freeman
Shaun HIll

There are a number of other decent guys like Aaron Rodgers who *could* earn stars this year.
 

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Jason Campbell is horseshit I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish the season riding the bench
 

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I just love how the media tried to promote their golden brown boy...

" He hasn't thrown many interceptions".

Yeah, but when you take no risks, you really don't throw touchdown passes either.... The guy had a roster with more pro bowlers on offense around him than any other NFC team, but the Redskins were the 5th worst in scoring...

The team had a stretch at the end of last year with something like 9 unders in a row.

Redskins fans would joke how they'd score their 1 TD and then get into hibernation mode. They took no risks... couldn't have baby cambell make mistakes...

I think Zorn coddled him to not let him make mistakes, but at some point you have to take the training wheels off and see if he is a man... So Far campbell has fallen flat on his face with every challenge presented... At some point you have to find out if you have a QB... or Byron Leftwhich part 2... I'd bet on the latter.

There is little reason to believe the guy that thinks slow, talks slow, throws slow and runs a lazy 2 min drill will ever become a top 5 QB.... but that's just me.
 

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I agree with just about all of this. Washington has destroyed any confindence that Campbell may have had by trying to dump him all spring. I think Brees is the best QB in the NFC. McNabb has a history of choking in the big games, and Romo can't get past Turkey Day. It is hared to believe that in the NFC East, the Conference that is often talked about as the best in the NFL, only Eli has won the big prize. McNabb has only played in the Big Game once, and Romo has not won a playoff game yet.
 

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Mcnabb does chock in big games yes, Romo has had problems late in the year too but this is more or less a regular season ranking...

This is " the state of the NFC quarterbacks" as I see it. People can have upward mobility on my list or fall off. A young Matt Ryan could take a huge step forward, or Jason Campbell could get benched for Colt Brennan... Last year we saw Tom Brady get hurt and an unknown Matt Cassell fill in nicely.


I just think QB's are so important, so it's key to know who has them...

The Giants, Eagles and Dallas have QB's, defenses and decent coaching staffs. If you aren't going to have 2/3 you are going to have problems...

If you don't have a good QB, you will need a dominant defense and probably a running game to go along.. Maybe the "game manager QB" a running game and the D...


The Saints have the best QB in the conference, but their defense sucked and they were flat out outscored... if Greg Williams can field even an average defense, the Saints could be SB contenders...

The reason why I rank the QB's is to seperate the good teams from the bad and lay it all out there.
 

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I certainly agree with you about the Saints. I also want to see what kind of year the 2nd year QB's have, especialy Matt Ryan of Atlanta. The Flacons were more than impressive last year, and Ryan was a big reason why.
 

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As a rookie I was impressed with Matt Ryan, but as an NFL quarterback not so much.

I think he was coddled and did well but he was largely in the game manager role. Now I'm not saying he won't ever be a real quarterback, but doing well as a game manager and being a dominant thrower is two different things.

I actually didn't watch a lot of Atlanta games though compared to most teams.
 

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"Terrible Tavaris Jackson". :lol: Aint that the truth. Agree with Rodgers. I want to throw up every time someone brings up the Packers 6-10 record as a reflection of his talent.
 

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The Pack lost some close games and the run defense fell apart last year, if they were 12-4 and Rodgers had those stats people would be bashing Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers would become KING.

but thanks to the shoddy record, his stats and good play go very unnoticed. It's a QB league and he's way underrated for me at this point. He did a lot of things right and is one of the top young QB's. Cutler is getting a lot of attention, but Rodgers very well may be king of the NFC North Quarterbacks for the next 10 years.


Terrible Tavaras Jackson is a joke and if he wasn't shielded by our friends in the media, he would be the butt of a lot more jokes and they'd probably have the public opinion to run him out of town...

but hey, he's diversity, he runs, he's muscular and we can't make fun of him....

Cris Collinsworth was calling a Thursday night game maybe a couple of years ago I guess against the Pack of all teams, and he said they should bench him at halftime when he had something like 37 yards and like 2-4 completions.

Bryant Gumbel " WHY???? WHY BENCH HIM"

They had spent the whole night promoting his rushing abilities and shielding him by calling him "young"...

I do believe the Vikings won that game 10-7 and covered ( I won too) off of a Fred Smoot Pick 6 of Brett Favre, but after the game Deion Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Jaimie Dukes and all the others were PRAISING Terrible Tavaras Jackson of all things. He did absolutley nothing to help his team win, but they media was praising his sorry ass.

Yeah, most fans know the guy sucks but I am sick and tired of his ass not getting bashed to high hell where it deserves. This guy has no business starting in the NFL, and he couldn't even start in the SEC and had to transfer because former Jags Coke head WR Matt Jones was a better QB.


Not only does Tavaras deserve to be flipping burgers, but so does his bald ass head coach who stuck with him this long. Fire both of the dopes.
 

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I do disagree on the Matty Ryan assessment after watching him through BC and a good deal of Falcons games last year I definitely think he is the real deal, and he consistently pulls out games at the end. There's a reason he got the nickname Matty Ice, and for that I would have him above Jake Delhomme, whose performance against the Cards last postseason was a disaster to say the least. He has to prove himself more than one season to get mentioned with Brees and company though
 

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Delhommo...
- 59.4% completion, 3300 yards, 15 TD, 12 INT, 20 sacks, 85% rating.
- He had 15 TD but could have had more if not for 2 RB's that got a lot of goalline carries, he did command the #2 rated team in the NFC last year...
- Delhommo has started for basically 6 years ( 1 injured).
- Career 85 QB rating
- He was 3 points within winning a super bowl...
- Last year everybody loved him until that crappy playoff
game, not everybody hates him like the plague, funny how that works...

Matty Matt
- 61% comp, 3400 yards, 16 TD, 11 INT, 17 sacks, 87.7 Rating


Their stats were actually very similar last year... I can't quantify it right now but I would say that the Falcons offense was more conservative for Ryan, trying to keep him in safer throws ETC. Yes I understand they had the same YPP at 7.9, but this is a personal assesment. I felt like they didn't give him the keys to the offense quite yet.

NOW after the playoff game Jake Delhomme is a gunslinging Brett Favre JR., but people weren't saying that when they were fighting the Giants for the #1 seed in the NFC, people weren't bashing him when he was 2 minutues within winning the super bowl in 2004...

Matt Ryan had a great year last year for a rookie and he could certainly overtake Delhomme this year... but if these 2 guys have the exact same stats, I'd support the guy that's been doing it for 6 years, over the guy that did it 1 year. I'd support the guy that had a better team last year, won the NFC before, and is more along in his career...

Matt Ryan had a little bit high INT total in college, I wouldn't hold it against him, it looked like his WR's didn't come back to the ball and run their routes right, it looked like he was an A+ college QB surrounded by average talent.... People hold it against guys like him... Cutler... Brady Quinn... but then when Jemarcus Russell has 1st round WR's people love him....

As a young player, I'd expect Matty to get better, but right now, I'd have to peg the 6 year starter ahead of him... Right or wrong. It wouldn't shock me if Matty improves this year, and Delhomme stays the same, but let's wait and see.
 

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If the Bucs start Byron Leftwhich, Brian Griese or Luke Mccown instead of Josh Freeman, I still stand by my NFC South ratings.

Brees
Delhomme
Matt Ryan
Byron Leftwhich


I think Gruden would start Mccown and he didn't look half bad in the limited action I saw, but Raheem Morris didn't sign his boy Byron to sit, and I see Josh Freeman as being the "QB of the future" instead of Luke Mccown.

I think Griese will get cut or Mccown will get traded....
 

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