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Zogby came out on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart lastg nite and predicted a Kerry victory. (Somebody call on Gameface to make sure he isn't slitting his wrists - I'm worried about the dude.)

Zogby went on to say that no president has won with less than a 50% approval rating - Bush is at 48%.

Zogby is the most accurate pollster there is.

Say bye bye to Dubya.
 

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Total BULLSHIT! They are trying to effect Bush turnout. It will not work, Bush wins.
 
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Anyone else gonna be glad Nov 3rd rolls around ...

I miss the good ol days when folks could argue about if Monica swallowed in the Oval Office instead of arguing about 2 guys that have very shaky military records and what actually happened 30 yrs ago
 

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mudbone said:
Zogby came out on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart lastg nite and predicted a Kerry victory. (Somebody call on Gameface to make sure he isn't slitting his wrists - I'm worried about the dude.)

Zogby went on to say that no president has won with less than a 50% approval rating - Bush is at 48%.

Zogby is the most accurate pollster there is.

Say bye bye to Dubya.
The Jon Stewart Show is a liberal pep rally interlaced with comedy and sh*t jokes that hit the fan. Watch it if it makes you feel better. But don't come on here excited to tell us about what you learned on the Jon Stewart Show.

I learned about black white-supremicists on the Chappelle Show. You didn't see me coming on here and stinking up the joint over that.
 
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The Zogster just gave Kerry the KISS OF DEATH

:biggrinin :biggrinin :biggrinin :blowup1:
 

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GAMEFACE said:
Total BULLSHIT! They are trying to effect Bush turnout. It will not work, Bush wins.

Allow me, since I am ripe with PMS today, to point out what a blatant 'tard you really are.

Would it not make more sense -- and maybe I should speak really slooowwwlyy for you -- that if Bush supporters were worried that he was going to lose a close one, that this fear would rally them to vote?

Because of the nature of many in the Dem party, I HOPE Kerry is behind in the polls on Monday night. Such a scenario would prompt concern, which in turn would prompt action. Had Zogby said he felt Kerry would win by a landslide, then you would be right. But he did not, nor did Mud imply that he did.

Thus, I crown you King 'Tard.
 

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X,

Let me explain shiit for brains. The media is trying to make Bush supporters believe there's no way Bush can win so why bother to show up and vote. Hence no President has won with less than a 50% approval rating. I hope you now understand.
 

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wasn't anything in it for zogby. stewart asked him a question and he answered it. i just happened to listen with great interest, kinda like if i heard warren buffett telling me to buy coca - cola, i probably would.

the time stamp on the video and david kay on aaron brown ain't helping bush much either. the best news for bush in the last month has been the endorsement of curt schilling - that's get the vote of all the girlie men who cry when they watch robert redford hit the home run in The Natural.

i might just have to go up to Boston tonite in time for Sox victory parade tomorrow then stay thru the Kerry victory rally on Wednesday. Will somebody look in on Game for me and plz take any razor blades away from him?
 

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GAMEFACE said:
X,

Let me explain shiit for brains. The media is trying to make Bush supporters believe there's no way Bush can win so why bother to show up and vote. Hence no President has won with less than a 50% approval rating. I hope you now understand.

How did you get through High School? No exams or anything?

The media, dümbass, is not suggesting that there is no way Bush can win. Anyone, anyone at all, who made that claim would be an idiot. Which is why I added (maybe reading is not your strong suit) that IF Zogby or Mud had claimed that Kerry would win in a landslide you would be right. But in a close one, you're nothing more than a no-mind 'tard.

In fact, I will go you one further and bet that there's at least one Billy-Joe-Bob whose cousin/wife will offer up some good Jack Daniels induced gummers followed by a playful round of Shoot The Dog, but the redneck warrior will turn her down just to go and vote. Because it IS that close and it IS that important to most people.

You remain, King 'Tard.
 

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Fukk you X....The media and Zogby want Kerry to win and they will say or do whatever to assist.
 

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Fukk you X....The media and Zogby want Kerry to win and they will say or do whatever to assist.

... and with that we all hear the gentle 'plink' as Game shoves his head right back up his arse.
 

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My oh my isn't it getting feisty in here.

...4 days to go....tik toc tik toc :hyper:
 

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sorry gang,

been away for a while. first of all, let's establish something here - zogby gets no money or has no incentive to pick kerry as he winner. he is not endorsing his politics, he is merely predicting him as the winner.

he gets judged on how well his polling and predictions do. his loyalty to his business to forecast the best he can is much like mutual funds managers who are judged by how they pick stocks. pure and simple.

i thought i was doing you die-hard republicans a favor by giving you a sure way to recoup some of your lost bets, is all.
 

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When Bush wins lets see how many Clinton swallowers are still posting.....I predict none....You won't see them until Hillary announces running in 08 with Monica's dress on....Oh!!!! i forgot ....she didn't swallow....
 

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Zogby sure does change his mind often: this is from Robert Novak's column 4 days ago..."pollster John Zogby surprised the political world back in April with a long-range prediction that John Kerry would defeat George W. Bush for president. On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women."

My advice would be to take Zogby's stuff with a grain of salt. Here's a good artiicle on his methodology:

http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4176

Zogby: Back in 1996, pollster Zogby hit the bullseye in predicting the results of the Presidential election. In 2000, they were close again, though their aggregate error tied them with 5 other national polls. In 2002, Zogby appeared to show a lean in favor of the Democrats, and he was way off in his mid-term election predictions. This year, at the end of the spring, John Zogby actually came out and predicted John Kerry would win the election, which appeared to indicate his bias had reached the point of full-blown partisanship against the President, reflected in a growing number of opinions made out of personal preference, rather than on the evidence. Zogby’s refusal to show his work, only magnifies the apparent distortion of his results.

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In other words, Zogby uses his own polls to drive some of his demographic parameters, a practice not approved, much less recommended, by either the NCPP or the AAPOR.

All in all, Zogby’s habit of confusing his personal opinion with data-driven conclusions, his admitted practice of manipulating the respondent pool and his demographic weights, by standards not accepted anywhere else, along with mixing Internet polls with telephone interview results, forces me to reject his polls as unacceptable; they simply cannot be verified, and I strongly warn the reader that there is no established benchmark for the Zogby reports, even using previous Zogby polls, because he has changed his practices from his own history.
 

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Zogby is a tool of the demi's. He's lately been a tool of the Arab immigrants as well as muslim in this country. He'll do anything he could to bring Bush down - but I think he is so conflicted with having a job after the election he could not come out with Kerry +7%. Remember he had Kerry ahead in a poll 3% a couple weeks ago.
 

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