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[h=2]Half of people living in Illinois and Connecticut want to get the hell out[/h]
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<figcaption class="p-caption"> Not every Chicagoan is as happy as this kid. Half of Illinoisans say they'd get out if they could. Getty Images </figcaption> </figure>





New data is out on the states people want to leave, and it's tailor-made to troll all your Facebook friends from Illinois and the northeastern Amtrak corridor.
Gallup asked people around the country whether they would move away from their states, given the chance. As it turns out, half of Illinois residents and 49 percent of all Connecticutians (Connecticutese? Connecticuters?) want to change states. In addition, it looks like a good chunk of the northeastern seaboard is just itching to pack up a U-Haul.
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Montanans, Hawaiians, and Mainers are least likely to say they'd want to leave, with fewer than one-quarter of those residents saying they'd move. Altogether, only 33 percent of all Americans surveyed said they'd leave their current states.

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Meanwhile, in nine states, 40 percent or more of the people want to get out, including around half of all Illinoisans, Marylanders, and Connecticuterians.

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It's fascinating data, and if you're from the relatively content upper plains, you can feel comfortably superior. If you're from one of those dark green states, you can shake your fist at the sky in anguish.
Or you can just, you know, get out.
All these people say they would leave if they could, but far fewer actually will, which might in a certain sense be good — imagine the epic moving-box and bubble-wrap shortage if one-third of all Americans moved to a new state.
But only six percent of all people said they were either very or extremely likely to change states in the next year, and even that is higher than the number of people who will likely move. That share of people who as of July 2013 were in a different state from a year ago was around 1.5 percent.
That's a much lower share than it used to be. Interstate migration has fallen in a big way over the last twenty years. A 2013 paper from the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis showed this.

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Thanks to those unsightly gaps, the chart isn't perfect, but it clearly shows that the gross interstate migration rate — the black line showing the share of the US population that shifted from state to state in any given year — fell by roughly half, from almost 3 percent to around 1.5 percent, between 1990 and 2011.
Americans have stopped changing states, and that may be a very bad thing. During and just after the recession, the ever-dropping moving rate made everyone wring their hands: a collapsed housing market and a profound lack of jobs both contributed to and resulted from a lack of migration.
When there are no jobs anywhere, after all, people have less of a reason to move. And when the housing market is stagnant, people can't go get the jobs that do happen to pop up. In other words, the would-be factory worker who can't sell her house in Memphis to move to Cincinnati, where there are jobs, can't get that job and spend that paycheck and create more jobs. Or maybe that person just wants to wait for housing prices to pick back up again before selling.
Because of this, it could be both a promising sign and an economic booster if Americans start to move more; notably, a lot of the states people say they'd least like to leave also have low jobless rates, and people who would most like to leave are often in states where the jobless rate is high.
Plus, among Americans who say they plan to leave their states, the most common reason given was work- or business-related — a reason given by 31 percent of respondents. Different states, however, had different mixes of reasons; New York, Illinois, and Maryland residents all cited taxes as a key reason. New York and Connecticut residents were also significantly more likely to cite a high cost of living.
All that said, there's another story about why people are staying put, and it's not about recessions. After all, the decline in mobility started way before the recession. Rather, it may be all about a more homogeneous US economy, not to mention the internet and cheap travel.
The economists who made that above chart, Greg Kaplan and Sam Schulhofer-Wohl, argued that the decline in moving in part happened because US jobs got less geographically specific, as they put it. Translated, that means it's easier than it used to be to find a lot of the same sorts of jobs across a lot of different cities, as the Economist noted in 2012. A shift away from the goods-producing sector to services has helped this happen. Common services jobs, like healthcare and waitressing, can be done anywhere. But a lot of goods-producing jobs (manufacturing, mining, logging) have to be done in particular places (i.e. wherever the factories, mines, or trees are).
Likewise, there's now more fluid information. People can easily look up places they might want to live. This could also be a factor that keeps people in place — they can research and hem and haw over a move, rather than crossing their fingers and driving across the country.
All of which may mean that even if Illinoisans and Connectici and really anyone else is just sick of their state, they're less likely to do anything about it than they were 20 years ago. The question of whether that's a good or bad thing remains a mystery.
 

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no shit with ILL......this state is a fucking mess. Chicago murder capital of USA and have some of the worst political bickering of any state out there. I am actually looking to move in the next year or two
 

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Wonder when the poll was taken, if it was the middle of winter I'm sure that skews the data for the northeast.
 
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Curious, whats so bad about Conncticutt? Never been.


The anti-tax, cost-conscious business lobby would have us believe it’s largely about high taxes, regulations and even congestion. Yes, of course, Connecticut has some of the highest costs, in fact we rank No. 6 overall in cost of living according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.
But is that really why 49 percent of people want to leave? Of course not. Hawaii is the most expensive state by far. What we have here is a much more complex picture, a conundrum with a story that might not be so bad for Connecticut.
Thousands of people who head for the exit are hauling their young, professional, mobile butts to Brooklyn, Manhattan, Boston, DC, Seattle, San Francisco and Atlanta — metro areas that are not known for their low cost, and except for Atlanta, are among the most expensive places to exist on the planet.
Having been here for a lot of years, I certainly recall a time when people left for the Carolinas and other low-cost destinations, especially in times when jobs were shrinking. But lately I can hardly think of anyone who left Connecticut other than to stake out a big metro.
So from that viewpoint it looks like Connecticut’s problem is the lack of urban vibrancy — a major metro area that doesn’t have to fork over $100 million in taxpayer graft to attract apartment dwellers, concert venues and university campuses.
Thus the conundrum. Depending on who they are, people want to flee Connecticut because costs are too high; because urban energy and vibrancy, which usually means higher cost, is too low; or because they’re miserable wherever they live.
The issue comes down to value. It’s neither about cost nor urban vibrancy, but rather, what you’re getting in exchange for your $295,000 house, your $1,800-a-month apartment, your half-hour commute, your 45-hours a week of toil, your hard-earned Ph.D.
States are a poor measure of lifestyle choices. Massachusetts, for example, is 2 percent more expensive than Connecticut according to the federal government measure. But metro Boston, where more people want to be, is more expensive than metro Hartford or New Haven. Likewise, in Illinois, where the highest percentage of people want out, are they eager to abandon Chicago or corn country? Maybe they should just switch places for half of each year.
Connecticut’s problem is this: If you’re willing to live in a 700-square-foot apartment for 40 percent of your income and travel 45 minutes to a job where there are lots of people like you with hip glasses, and the whole world is at your sidewalk — there are better places to be than here.
And if you’re willing to live in a region with no great urban centers nearby, where the political and cultural climate is far more conservative but you can buy a big house with a greener lawn or maybe a few acres of woods — there are better places to be than here.
So maybe the Gallup poll measured this, when it comes to Connecticut: A majority don’t think it’s perfect. But for an even larger majority, it could still be good.

http://courantblogs.com/dan-haar/half-of-connecticut-residents-want-to-leave-but-why/
 

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I have thought about moving many times to Austin TX or Colorado ( Colorado Springs, Fort Collins, Denver ).....
 

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no shit with ILL......this state is a fucking mess. Chicago murder capital of USA and have some of the worst political bickering of any state out there. I am actually looking to move in the next year or two


And the Pres is from where?
 

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New York ranks 50th in domestic migration, with 328,538 more people leaving the state than moving in from other states from 2010 through 2013, according to an analysis of new census data by the Empire Center.

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I would never live in NY, NJ, or Connecticut. I have relatives in CT and it is mind boggling to me that they want to live there.

I won't be in PA for retirement (or for more than 10 years if I can). This state has a massive government and there are a million townships and borough's which is another layer of greed.
 

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i see that political back and forth is not unique to all sports forums afterall :)
 

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Curious, whats so bad about Conncticutt? Never been.

Some of this depends on when the question was asked, if it was asked in January or February youd get alot more people wanting to get the heck out than if you asked in June or July and it also depends on where in CT you live. I know my kids will get a good education being raised in CT, we get all 4 seasons, 3 of which are great. We have countryside as well as beaches and are between Boston and NYC if we ever want to visit a big city. There are alot worse places to live than Connecticut. Not to mention, we have to best college basketball program in the country.
 

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Connecticut is actually a very nice state with very educated people and some of the most prestigious living in the America so this is definitely a case of the government anal raping is citizens with taxes at every opportunity
 

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Connecticut is actually a very nice state with very educated people and some of the most prestigious living in the America so this is definitely a case of the government anal raping is citizens with taxes at every opportunity

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I love CT, but it's too damn expensive to live in this state, especially if you're retired

as for everything besides the cost of living, it's top notch

we tax, we regulate, we tax some more, we tax some more, we dream of ways to take from Peter to give to Paul. Some liberal politicians even said they didn't care if a local gun manufacturer that employs residents and supports other local companies is chased out of the state by them

they're sickening
 

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7 of the top 8 states are liberal havens, while the 8th state may be the state that's hardest hit by our extended economic malaise

very telling
 

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Why anybody would want to leave Colorado I don't know. Durango would be my first city of choice...
 

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Two reasons people want to leave CT.

1. Taxes are insane and with more and more people leaving they will just continue to rise.

2. CT now has the toughest Gun laws in the United States and I know people packing up and leaving left and right because of this. If it wasnt for my mom dying and my dad being alone I would have never come back. Thank God I work for Nascar and spend most of my time out of the State this time of year lol.
 

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Funny that Illinois has half its population wanting to move, while to the North, Wisconsin is below average. That must be why half of Illinois is up here all summer. Sucks to be from Illinois.
 

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Two reasons people want to leave CT.

1. Taxes are insane and with more and more people leaving they will just continue to rise.

2. CT now has the toughest Gun laws in the United States and I know people packing up and leaving left and right because of this. If it wasnt for my mom dying and my dad being alone I would have never come back. Thank God I work for Nascar and spend most of my time out of the State this time of year lol.

Do you travel to each race?
 

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