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Lets use some common sense here. Enough with the fvcking stand up guy crap.

THESE "STAND UP GUYS" ARE BOOKMAKERS!

Many started in the states doing it illegally. Get it, they were/are CRIMINALS. Just because they are fun to hang out with and never scrwewed you does not mean they are stand up guys!

How many of these Stand Guys have to show their true colors by lying, stealing, conning innocents before you understand this. Scotty, Marty, Fred, Lance, Reggie yada yada.

The same goes for all the remaining names like Lenny, Will, Spiro, etc. The may indeed be good guys, anything is possible. However just because they always pay doesn't mean they are honest. It's easy to be stand up when things are going well.

Instead of c**** being bleeped out here, stand up guy should be bleeped out.
 

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Real bookmakers, who stay in business for any extended period of time have to be 'stand up guys'. Its the only way. Integrity in the bookmaking business is paramount, without that you will not survive. Sure, you can be tricky, and try to outsmart the dg's at every turn, you can even deal dual lines to your sharps and squares, but if you book a bet, honor it, and if you owe money pay it. If you can't do that, you are a con man, not a bookmaker.
 

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I TOTALLY AGREE! There are no stand up guys in this business. THe bookmaker is ONLY as solid as your last payout and you mean NOTHING to them except for their last deposit!

Post of the year, LADEDA!
 

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Ladeda .

Why would you question the honesty & integrity of Spiro , Lenny and Will when by your own admittance they have always paid ?.

Seems to defeat the objectivity of your post , maybe you should question the honesty & integrity of certain forum owners including their hype and their objectives before posting names of people who have always paid .

[This message was edited by skirmish on February 04, 2004 at 11:30 AM.]

[This message was edited by skirmish on February 04, 2004 at 11:40 AM.]
 

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There are standup guys in this biz. If I a guy has been in jail for bookmaking in the U.S and nothing else, he has a good chance of getting my money providing he has been in the biz for a while.

However, I know a few of these bookies have who have been convicted for crimes much more serious than gambling.
 

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You wanna talk standup guys ???

How bout these gamblers that run up a gambling debt and don't pay up ? How bout these gamblers that use fake cashier checks, gamblers that chargeback on their CC and of course the firepay chargebacks ????

These are the scum of the industry
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